10 Mar
2018
10 Mar
'18
10:35 p.m.
Hi every one.
I'm sure you all know about the storm
about the new code of conduct in freebsd.
(you need to ask consent in advance before sending virtual hugs.... etc)
This is happening, because their governing structure is a committee.
They are making an experiment in politics, with rules and votes and consensus
etc....
You can easily avoid this, by just having an enlighten dictator.
A bit like Torvalds with linux. In the Linux project, there is no
committee and votes and politics. Linus has the final word.
An open source project is not like in real life, if you think the
benevolent dictator is a dick, you just tell him and fork.
So, trinity should remain a dictatorship. Even if the project got big.
I'm assuming the dictator is petersons.
And when he leaves, he must appoint a successor.
If that ever turned to shit, people would have to decide to fork then.
(Roman emperor Caligula once, ordered his men to collect seashells)
A common mistake with projects/businesses, is that the founders don't
think through about what happens after they are gone.
hugs :P
11 Mar
11 Mar
5:26 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] how to prevent a hugs/freebsd fiasco in trinity
On 2018/03/11 06:35 AM, wofgdkncxojef(a)gmail.com wrote:
Hi every one.
I'm sure you all know about the storm
about the new code of conduct in freebsd.
(you need to ask consent in advance before sending virtual hugs.... etc)
This is happening, because their governing structure is a committee.
They are making an experiment in politics, with rules and votes and consensus
etc....
You can easily avoid this, by just having an enlighten dictator.
A bit like Torvalds with linux. In the Linux project, there is no
committee and votes and politics. Linus has the final word.
An open source project is not like in real life, if you think the
benevolent dictator is a dick, you just tell him and fork.
So, trinity should remain a dictatorship. Even if the project got big.
I'm assuming the dictator is petersons.
And when he leaves, he must appoint a successor.
If that ever turned to shit, people would have to decide to fork then.
(Roman emperor Caligula once, ordered his men to collect seashells)
A common mistake with projects/businesses, is that the founders don't
think through about what happens after they are gone.
hugs :P
Tim is the project BDFL, no worries :-)
Cheers
Michele
7:16 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] how to prevent a hugs/freebsd fiasco in trinity
On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 10:35 PM, <wofgdkncxojef(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi every one.
I'm sure you all know about the storm
about the new code of conduct in freebsd.
yes. insane. they'll learn. it'll be tough, but they'll learn.
https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=11758156&cid=56183977
https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=11758156&cid=56142132
(you need to ask consent in advance before sending
virtual hugs.... etc)
This is happening, because their governing structure is a committee.
They are making an experiment in politics, with rules and votes and consensus
etc....
voting by majority gets you mob rule.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNGFep6rncY
You can easily avoid this, by just having an enlighten
dictator.
it's not the best long-term solution but is fairly high at the top
when it comes to software libre projects, as actual contributions from
part-time volunteers tend to be minute compared to the overall size of
the project that the full-time lead has to deal with.
A bit like Torvalds with linux. In the Linux project,
there is no
committee and votes and politics. Linus has the final word.
An open source project is not like in real life, if you think the
benevolent dictator is a dick, you just tell him and fork.
unfortunately this is a myth that a fork will succeed, it's amazing
that trinity is going at all, and when i get spare funds i want to
support the project to make damn sure it _does_ keep going. if you're
going to fork a project you'd better have the resources to do it: most
people don't, plain and simple.
trinity is an interesting throwback, it's a testament to the original
code that it's still useful and working well, even now. i have clients
running it. the complaints are down to bugs in firefox or chrome.
honestly though... i don't feel that there's anything to be concerned
about. the people maintaining trinity are pretty sensible.
l.
12 Mar
12 Mar
12:17 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] how to prevent a hugs/freebsd fiasco in trinity
unfortunately this is a myth that a fork will
succeed,
In a situation like this, plenty of people from
the old project want to leave also.
honestly though... i don't feel that there's
anything to be concerned
about. the people maintaining trinity are pretty sensible.
That's missleading. This type of decay happen slowly over time.
It always start well with the founders, but as people come and go
things deteriorate.... The guys that founded freebsd back in the 1993
didn't expect something like this.
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