Hello,
which compiler version is used to build kontact-trinity and where can I find this information? I'm asking because my task is to build a different "fork" of kontact 3.5 on Bullseye and that build doesn't work yet so I want to compare that fork with the TDE version of kontact so I can patch the fork. I have to admit that I know little about building packages. Still, it's my task so somehow I have to find my way through.
Greetings, Christoph
On 2022/04/23 01:18 AM, Christoph Klassen wrote:
Hello,
which compiler version is used to build kontact-trinity and where can I find this information? I'm asking because my task is to build a different "fork" of kontact 3.5 on Bullseye and that build doesn't work yet so I want to compare that fork with the TDE version of kontact so I can patch the fork. I have to admit that I know little about building packages. Still, it's my task so somehow I have to find my way through.
Greetings, Christoph
Hi Christoph, you use the compiler of your distro, which in case of Bullseye is gcc/g++ unless you switched to clang (which also works). Cheers Michele
On Friday 22 of April 2022 18:18:59 Christoph Klassen wrote:
Hello,
which compiler version is used to build kontact-trinity and where can I find this information? I'm asking because my task is to build a different "fork" of kontact 3.5 on Bullseye and that build doesn't work yet so I want to compare that fork with the TDE version of kontact so I can patch the fork. I have to admit that I know little about building packages. Still, it's my task so somehow I have to find my way through.
Greetings, Christoph
Hi Christoph,
as Michele mentioned, we use the default distribution compiler. For supported versions of Debian distribution, it includes GCC from version 6.3 to version 11.x. To build on FreeBSD, Clang is used there.
Cheers
On 4/24/22 08:27, Slávek Banko wrote:
Hi Christoph,
as Michele mentioned, we use the default distribution compiler. For supported versions of Debian distribution, it includes GCC from version 6.3 to version 11.x. To build on FreeBSD, Clang is used there.
Thanks to both of you, Michele and Slávek!
And which C(++)-standard is used? As far as I know you can set the standard with CPPFLAGS/CXXFLAGS when you add a parameter. In the file acinclude.m4.in I found the line "CXXFLAGS="-ansi [...]" and I read that sometimes the standard C89 is also called ANSI C, but I couldn't find out what the parameter -ansi stands for in the CXXFLAGS.
Can you help me to bring light into the darkness? I would also be grateful, if you had articles or the like, so I could read about it.
Kind regards, Christoph
Christoph Klassen wrote:
Thanks to both of you, Michele and Slávek!
And which C(++)-standard is used? As far as I know you can set the standard with CPPFLAGS/CXXFLAGS when you add a parameter. In the file acinclude.m4.in I found the line "CXXFLAGS="-ansi [...]" and I read that sometimes the standard C89 is also called ANSI C, but I couldn't find out what the parameter -ansi stands for in the CXXFLAGS.
Can you help me to bring light into the darkness? I would also be grateful, if you had articles or the like, so I could read about it.
I can share my experience when I started contributing to the project. I must admit it was also very dark where I was standing.
1. Lets start with the target distribution. I use debian (stable). Your approach should be also based on the target distro. 2. Ressources: https://www.trinitydesktop.org/development.php You can also check the WIKI https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/How_to_Build_TDE_Core_Modules https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Category:Developers
3. Clone the repository and setup the build environment a. https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Project_GIT_Information#Using_GIT b. depends on the distribution. I use kind of frankenstein I used some ideas from the "buildscripts", but did not want to use all I wrote my own set of Makefiles 4. After building the packages, you need to manage them. I used a howto called "SimpleDebianRepository". This way I can build and install on all the PCs and VMs I control in the local network or via VPN.
I hope it helps
BR
On Monday 25 of April 2022 09:45:22 Christoph Klassen wrote:
On 4/24/22 08:27, Slávek Banko wrote:
Hi Christoph,
as Michele mentioned, we use the default distribution compiler. For supported versions of Debian distribution, it includes GCC from version 6.3 to version 11.x. To build on FreeBSD, Clang is used there.
Thanks to both of you, Michele and Slávek!
And which C(++)-standard is used? As far as I know you can set the standard with CPPFLAGS/CXXFLAGS when you add a parameter. In the file acinclude.m4.in I found the line "CXXFLAGS="-ansi [...]" and I read that sometimes the standard C89 is also called ANSI C, but I couldn't find out what the parameter -ansi stands for in the CXXFLAGS.
Can you help me to bring light into the darkness? I would also be grateful, if you had articles or the like, so I could read about it.
Kind regards, Christoph
Hi Christoph,
for TDE releases <= r14.0.11 there apply, that for CMake builds is used the default C++ standard of distribution compiler, while for Automake builds was enforced "-ansi", which actually enforces C++98. This enforcement of the old standard for Automake builds was canceled. For the upcoming R14.0.12 we set as a minimum required standard C++11.
Because tdepim is built using CMake, there is no need to deal with files related to Automake build process - ie acinclude.m4.in, configure.in*, Makefile.in.
See related commits in common "admin" and "cmake" modules:
https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/admin/commit/?h=r14.0.x&id=ba... https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/admin/commit/?h=r14.0.x&id=a9...
https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/cmake/commit/?h=r14.0.x&id=19...
Cheers
On 4/25/22 10:23, deloptes wrote:
I can share my experience when I started contributing to the project.
I must
admit it was also very dark where I was standing.
Lets start with the target distribution. I use debian (stable). Your approach should be also based on the target distro.
Ressources: https://www.trinitydesktop.org/development.php You can also check the WIKI https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/How_to_Build_TDE_Core_Modules https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Category:Developers
Clone the repository and setup the build environment a.
https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Project_GIT_Information#Using_GIT
b. depends on the distribution. I use kind of frankenstein I used some ideas from the "buildscripts", but did not
want to use all
I wrote my own set of Makefiles
- After building the packages, you need to manage them. I used a howto
called "SimpleDebianRepository". This way I can build and install on all the PCs and VMs I control in the local network or via VPN.
Thanks, but I visited these links already :)
On 4/25/22 10:26, Slávek Banko wrote:
for TDE releases <= r14.0.11 there apply, that for CMake builds is used the default C++ standard of distribution compiler, while for Automake builds was enforced "-ansi", which actually enforces C++98. This enforcement of the old standard for Automake builds was canceled.
Thanks for the explanation! That makes things clearer.
For the upcoming R14.0.12 we set as a minimum required standard C++11.
When is that release planned?
Kind regards, Christoph
On 4/25/22 11:06, Christoph Klassen wrote:
On 4/25/22 10:26, Slávek Banko wrote:
For the upcoming R14.0.12 we set as a minimum required standard C++11.
When is that release planned?
Okay, this one I can answer myself because there was an email saying that the release is planned for end of April.
On 2022/04/25 06:10 PM, Christoph Klassen wrote:
On 4/25/22 11:06, Christoph Klassen wrote:
On 4/25/22 10:26, Slávek Banko wrote:
For the upcoming R14.0.12 we set as a minimum required standard C++11.
When is that release planned?
Okay, this one I can answer myself because there was an email saying that the release is planned for end of April.
Hi Chris, R14.0.12 should be out in a week. In Debian, you can also look at this scripts: https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tde-packaging/src/branch/mas... you can follow the instructions on the README file and things should pretty much work. If not, let me know and I will look into the issue. This should **greatly** simplify building tde in debian.
Cheers Michele
On 4/25/22 17:05, Michele Calgaro via tde-devels wrote:
Hi Chris, R14.0.12 should be out in a week. In Debian, you can also look at this scripts: https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tde-packaging/src/branch/mas...
you can follow the instructions on the README file and things should pretty much work. If not, let me know and I will look into the issue. This should **greatly** simplify building tde in debian.
Thanks Michele! The problem is that I'm working with a fork of the "normal" Kontact 3.5 and not the one from TDE. Maybe it can still be helpful to look at the scripts. The reason why we don't just use kontact-trinity is that we already have additional functions which would be missing if we used kontact-trinity. Still, maybe it's possible that we implement patches or features which we can contribute to the Trinity-project.
Kind regards, Christoph
On 2022/04/26 05:09 PM, Christoph Klassen wrote:
Thanks Michele! The problem is that I'm working with a fork of the "normal" Kontact 3.5 and not the one from TDE. Maybe it can still be helpful to look at the scripts. The reason why we don't just use kontact-trinity is that we already have additional functions which would be missing if we used kontact-trinity. Still, maybe it's possible that we implement patches or features which we can contribute to the Trinity-project.
Kind regards, Christoph
That would be great. Maybe we can merge those extra functionality and then you can move to kontact-trinity which would probably simplify things for your end. Feel free to reach out to us in case :-) Cheers Michele
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