All, tdehw guys, Checking through my logs I note a consistent error from [tde_dbus_hardwarecontrol. The sequence of errors occurs on each login (several times): Mar 01 21:40:15 valhalla org.trinitydesktop.hardwarecontrol[180]: [tde_dbus_hardwarecontrol] Name request failed with error 'Rejected send message, 2 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.18" (uid=1000 pid=1597 comm="tdepowersave [tdeinit] ") interface="org.trinitydesktop.hardwarecontrol.Power" member="CanHibernate" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination="org.trinitydesktop.hardwarecontrol" (uid=0 pid=1621 comm="/opt/trinity/bin/tde_dbus_hardwarecontrol ")' Mar 01 21:40:15 valhalla org.trinitydesktop.hardwarecontrol[180]: [tde_dbus_hardwarecontrol] Not primary owner (-1), exiting! Mar 01 21:40:15 valhalla dbus[180]: [system] Activated service 'org.trinitydesktop.hardwarecontrol' failed: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 1 I'm not sure if this is an 'error' or just a normal 'test for capabilities', not available, fail, situation? To me it looks like dbus org.trinitydesktop.hardwarecontrol.Power checks member "CanHibernate" and finds the name "(unset)". It checks that it is 'Not primary owner', then throws a 'failed: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 1'. I want to know if this is normal behavior or if there is a problem. On all old 3.5.13-sru hal installs I have the option to suspend/hibernate as a logout option. With R14 (same environment) I do not have that option available. Is that expected? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.