Hi All
I have a marketing/advertising background. The following suggestion is primarily aimed at increasing the name recognition of "Trinity Desktop" but should have other useful side effects as well.
This idea is structurally similar to the concept of "loss leaders" that commercial stores use to entice people to come to their store, in the hopes that they will buy something else while they are there (which they usually do).
Darrel's suggestion of offering Kate scripts to the Trinity Desktop audience started me thinking about this idea.
If we had something on the Trinity Desktop web site that people need or want (outside of Trinity itself), and that could be found through a Google search--they would go there to check it out and while there... be able to read what Trinity Desktop is, and what it is trying to do. If they find things they want and that help them (scripts in this case) they will post about what they found on social networks, blogs and forums. If they like what they read about Trinity Desktop, they will post about that as well--whether or not they are interested in using Trinity Desktop or not.
These postings would increase hits to the Trinity Desktop site, and cause it to rise in Google ratings. This hopefully would put Trinity's matches in the first 100 results of a Google search--which would radically increase the hits on the Trinity Desktop site and name recognition.
My idea is to start a "Trinity Desktop scripts" webpage or forum containing user submitted scripts. This should be interactive and monitored so I think something like a forum would be the best idea. The site/page would be based around the concept of "Useful scripts that can help you to learn scripting as well". It would include scripts that could be used from Konsole or from inside Kate or Konqueror (which sometimes have to be structured differently than standard scripts). Information on how to use scripts inside Kate and Konqueror would also be available.
To have a script accepted, a vote or committee approval would be needed. Besides being useful (either in actual use or in learning to script) the script would have to be heavily documented by the writer so that the "what" and "why" of the script could be understood by users not familiar with scripting (the majority of them).
What doing this would require:
1 - A web or forum page.
2 - Someone to create & monitor the page.
3 - Someone to manage the submissions, uploads and page entries for the scripts.
4 - Someone(s) to write a Trinity Desktop oriented description of each script -- the authors are usually terrible at this.
5 - People (or a voting system) to look at and and approve the scripts and descriptions.
To seed this site/page--all of us could post of its existence on social network, forum and wiki sites that we are members of.
I will volunteer to create and manage the web page (if it is not a wiki). Being a retied webmaster I have the skills to do so. Note that I will be on the road from mid April to late June. I could start it and set it up--but would not be able to put a lot of time into it until after June.
I personally have been considering doing something like this for the last 5 years as a personal project--so it is not a new concept for me. Because of this my scripts are already heavily documented and ready to use. I have somewhere between 50 and 100 scripts that I think would qualify, and that are ready to be posted. I am sure the rest of you have quite a few scripts as well. This means that an impressive number of scripts could be put up rapidly, providing the variety needed to attract viewers.
Thoughts?
Another useful page/site similar in effect to the above would be one that specialized post and information on how to modify the appearance and function of menus, toolbars, popups, etc. for Trinity Desktop programs.
Keith
I have a marketing/advertising background. The following suggestion is primarily aimed at increasing the name recognition of "Trinity Desktop" but should have other useful side effects as well.
My idea is to start a "Trinity Desktop scripts" webpage or forum containing user submitted scripts. This should be interactive and monitored so I think something like a forum would be the best idea. The site/page would be based around the concept of "Useful scripts that can help you to learn scripting as well". It would include scripts that could be used from Konsole or from inside Kate or Konqueror (which sometimes have to be structured differently than standard scripts). Information on how to use scripts inside Kate and Konqueror would also be available.
To have a script accepted, a vote or committee approval would be needed. Besides being useful (either in actual use or in learning to script) the script would have to be heavily documented by the writer so that the "what" and "why" of the script could be understood by users not familiar with scripting (the majority of them).
Thoughts?
I like the idea.
Another useful page/site similar in effect to the above would be one that specialized post and information on how to modify the appearance and function of menus, toolbars, popups, etc. for Trinity Desktop programs.
I like the idea. For delivery I prefer to see all of the help documents available online at the web site or wiki as HTML files. When users submit tips we update the appropriate help file DocBook source. The respective HTML file gets regenerated nightly and becomes an updated live web page within 24 hours.
That way we keep our help files current and treat them as living documents. By doing that we keep the information contained to a single source and don't have to duplicate our efforts.
With all of the help files in DocBook format, we can revise certain files into smaller bite size files, which then can be sourced into other DocBook files to form a complete document.
Darrell
Darrell
Re your first paragraph...
I don't consider these "help documents" I consider this an image marketing effort to attract "new" people and that the page should reflect that. The site would provide scripts for copying or downloading and a place for "anyone" not just Trinity users to submit and download scripts. It would be a Trinity service to all Linux users.
If you want to convert the scripts that are contributed into help documents and use/store/display them elsewhere that is fine--but I am not volunteering for that part of the job--only for managing the web page that the "clients" interact with.
By delivery I assume that you are referring to how the visitor can download the script. I want HTML pages which they can copy and paste the scripts from, but in many cases the scripts might be rather large for this and we might have to consider download links. I do not think that the ability for "clients" to download the entire script collection is a good idea. If nothing else it would lower the hits on the site dramatically.
"Submitted tips" This might be part of the second, separate page I suggested, on modifying the appearance of Trinity apps, but not this one which is only about scripts.
Re your second paragraph:
Again, IF this is displayed "only" as help files that are part of the Trinity documentation, instead of useful information supplied by Trinity Desktop to everyone, on an interactive site--I believe you would lose a large part of the "image recognition" factor that is the prime intent here (at least to me).
I think my and your goals are completely different here--not that they can not be merged and/or feed each other--but I think they should be two separate entities, managed by two different people.
On the other side. I think that something like what you are talking about for Trinity specific tips or application modification/enhancement is a very good idea.
Keith
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Darrell Anderson humanreadable@yahoo.com wrote:
I have a marketing/advertising background. The following suggestion is primarily aimed at increasing the name recognition of "Trinity Desktop" but should have other useful side effects as well.
My idea is to start a "Trinity Desktop scripts" webpage or forum containing user submitted scripts. This should be interactive and monitored so I think something like a forum would be the best idea. The site/page would be based around the concept of "Useful scripts that can help you to learn scripting as well". It would include scripts that could be used from Konsole or from inside Kate or Konqueror (which sometimes have to be structured differently than standard scripts). Information on how to use scripts inside Kate and Konqueror would also be available.
To have a script accepted, a vote or committee approval would be needed. Besides being useful (either in actual use or in learning to script) the script would have to be heavily documented by the writer so that the "what" and "why" of the script could be understood by users not familiar with scripting (the majority of them).
Thoughts?
I like the idea.
Another useful page/site similar in effect to the above would be one that specialized post and information on how to modify the appearance and function of menus, toolbars, popups, etc. for Trinity Desktop programs.
I like the idea. For delivery I prefer to see all of the help documents available online at the web site or wiki as HTML files. When users submit tips we update the appropriate help file DocBook source. The respective HTML file gets regenerated nightly and becomes an updated live web page within 24 hours.
That way we keep our help files current and treat them as living documents. By doing that we keep the information contained to a single source and don't have to duplicate our efforts.
With all of the help files in DocBook format, we can revise certain files into smaller bite size files, which then can be sourced into other DocBook files to form a complete document.
Darrell
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