31 Jul
2012
31 Jul
'12
2:30 p.m.
Would anyone be interested in integrating the features (and plugin
system) of katapult into our mini-cli, as well as revamping it?
I think that would improve our launcher considerably and allow for
better integration. Since katapult is plugin based, users could easily
pick and choose what features they want, or if they didn't want any
(disabling all the plugins).
Calvin
31 Jul
31 Jul
2:53 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Katapult and MiniCli
Would anyone be interested in integrating the features
(and plugin
system) of katapult into our mini-cli, as well as revamping it?
I think that would improve our launcher considerably and allow for
better integration. Since katapult is plugin based, users could easily
pick and choose what features they want, or if they didn't want any
(disabling all the plugins).
Calvin
The mini-cli is one of those items within TDE that is very hard to tamper
with and get away with it. ;-) It is probably one of the most
heavily-used off-screen elements within the GUI and unless the revamp can
be configured to act *exactly* like the original there will be problems.
Tim
2:55 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Katapult and MiniCli
On 31 July 2012 10:53, Timothy Pearson <kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net> wrote:
I am also heavily dependent upon MiniCli - I don't want to change it,
just to extend it.
Calvin
Would anyone
be interested in integrating the features (and plugin
system) of katapult into our mini-cli, as well as revamping it?
I think that would improve our launcher considerably and allow for
better integration. Since katapult is plugin based, users could easily
pick and choose what features they want, or if they didn't want any
(disabling all the plugins).
Calvin
The mini-cli is one of those items within TDE that is very hard to tamper
with and get away with it. ;-) It is probably one of the most
heavily-used off-screen elements within the GUI and unless the revamp can
be configured to act *exactly* like the original there will be problems.
Tim 
3:55 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Katapult and MiniCli
On 07/31/2012 09:55 AM, Calvin Morrison wrote:
I am also heavily dependent upon MiniCli - I don't
want to change it,
just to extend it.
Calvin
But whatever you do, DO NOT make it behave like the KDE4 version that tries to
think for you!!! ALT-F2, you type in the name of the executable, that's it, no
other crap pops up on the screen, no other crap appears in a listbox, it doesn't
talk back and provide any sass, it just does its job the exact same way it has
been doing its job for years. No -- search my inbox, contacts, don't list my
recent documents, don't offer to launch a URL, just pop up the icon for the
executable I type in and run it...
However, if you always remember to provide a configuration option to retain the
original behavior, it can be a crazy as you want it. (A new feature is a bug if
you can't turn it off!) The kde4 devs completely missed that concept. I kind of
agree with Tim here, no need to KDE4'ify Alt+F2.
With that said... "What were your ideas?" :)
Things that could be useful:
'#<man page name>' - opens man page in konqueror regardless of .html
mimetype
Currently if you have your mime-type set to open .html in kwrite (or other
editor for development work), then the minicli launches the man page hypertext
in kwrite. That could be fixed and improved.
--
David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
4:02 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Katapult and MiniCli
On 31 July 2012 11:55, David C. Rankin <drankinatty(a)suddenlinkmail.com> wrote:
On 07/31/2012 09:55 AM, Calvin Morrison wrote:
Of course if you wanted that - wouldn't all you have to do is disable
those excess features?
I am also heavily dependent upon MiniCli - I
don't want to change it,
just to extend it.
Calvin
But whatever you do, DO NOT make it behave like the KDE4 version that tries to
think for you!!! ALT-F2, you type in the name of the executable, that's it. no
other crap pops up on the screen, no other crap appears in a listbox, it doesn't
talk back and provide any sass, it just does its job the exact same way it has
been doing its job for years. No -- search my inbox, contacts, don't list my
recent documents, don't offer to launch a URL, just pop up the icon for the
executable I type in and run it...
Just turn the "recent documents" plugin off... same thing
However, if you always remember to provide a
configuration option to retain the
original behavior, it can be a crazy as you want it. (A new feature is a bug if
you can't turn it off!) The kde4 devs completely missed that concept. I kind of
agree with Tim here, no need to KDE4'ify Alt+F2.
Actually the KDE4 dialog is very nice. Though a bit excessive in some
area's you've pointed out.
With that said... "What were your ideas?" :)
Things that could be useful:
'#<man page name>' - opens man page in konqueror regardless of .html
mimetype
stuff like that would be awesome, and along the lines of what katapult does.
Currently if you have your mime-type set to open
.html in kwrite (or other
editor for development work), then the minicli launches the man page hypertext
in kwrite. That could be fixed and improved.
Mime types still suck. "Open With" is the bane of my existence. On
windows, on Mac OS X, one Linux, on unix, I always have issues :[ I
still have trouble with trinity and programs that are running with a
different toolkit.
Calvin
10:21 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Katapult and MiniCli
On 07/31/2012 11:02 AM, Calvin Morrison wrote:
Mime types still suck. "Open With" is the
bane of my existence. On
windows, on Mac OS X, one Linux, on unix, I always have issues :[ I
still have trouble with trinity and programs that are running with a
different toolkit.
Calvin
Amen,
Not picking, just venting a bit today -- a lot going on :)
--
David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
6:21 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Katapult and MiniCli
David C. Rankin wrote:
Things that could be useful:
'#<man page name>' - opens man page in konqueror regardless of .html
mimetype
Currently if you have your mime-type set to open .html in kwrite (or other
editor for development work), then the minicli launches the man page hypertext
in kwrite. That could be fixed and improved.
Either, it should be possible to use any webbrowser to display man pages
(if the html mimetype is used for them) or it is just a bug that man
pages and html files are handled the same way.
Right now it appears to be a plain bug though, because when I try to
open a man page in this way, it just gives me an empty Chromium tab.
In reply to the original topic. "Add Katapult features" isn't really
obvious to me. I would like to know what kind of features are missing
now and which ones seem useful to add.
Julius
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