I did not follow the discussion about LibreOffice. I'm browsing the archives now.
Today I decided to remove OOo 3.2.1 and install LibreOffice 3.3.1. As I was browsing the package list I noticed a file named kdefilepicker. I thought that perhaps this was a hook that allowed LibreOffice to use KDialog.
Much to my dismay, I cannot get LibreOffice to pop up ANY kind of file picker dialog box. When I try to use the File Save As menu option, the program freezes and I have to manually terminate the program.
This was on a KDE 3.5.10 box. I have not tried LibreOffice on Trinity 3.5.12 or SVN.
I have seen this file picker behavior before in the Opera browser. Opera file picker dialogs don't work on KDE 3 systems.
I found an online discussion about the LibreOffice problem:
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-bugs/2011-February/005205....
Here is my solution:
mv /opt/libreoffice/basis3.3/program/fps_kde.uno.so /opt/libreoffice/basis3.3/program/fps_kde.uno.so.bak
Renaming/removing that library forces LibreOffice to use its own dialog boxes.
[rant]Just another example that upstream providers consider KDE 3 dead. Just another example that most free/libre software developers are adversarial about backwards compatibility. This is an attitude problem, not technical. :( [/rant]
Darrell
On Wednesday 16 March 2011 01:56:50 Darrell Anderson wrote:
mv /opt/libreoffice/basis3.3/program/fps_kde.uno.so /opt/libreoffice/basis3.3/program/fps_kde.uno.so.bak
Renaming/removing that library forces LibreOffice to use its own dialog boxes.
Just remove the libreoffice-kde (of kdefilepicker) package. The LibreOffice should use its own dialogs then. Also an option to use own dialogs exists in the LibreOffice/OpenOffice options.
The sad part is the OOo/LibreOffice file picker dialog boxes are crappy to anyone who has grown accustomed to KDialog. :(
Darrell
--- On Tue, 3/15/11, Ilya Chernykh neptunia@mail.ru wrote:
From: Ilya Chernykh neptunia@mail.ru Subject: Re: [trinity-devel] LibreOffice FilePickers Fail To: trinity-devel@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 6:33 PM On Wednesday 16 March 2011 01:56:50 Darrell Anderson wrote:
mv /opt/libreoffice/basis3.3/program/fps_kde.uno.so /opt/libreoffice/basis3.3/program/fps_kde.uno.so.bak
Renaming/removing that library forces LibreOffice to
use its own dialog
boxes.
Just remove the libreoffice-kde (of kdefilepicker) package. The LibreOffice should use its own dialogs then. Also an option to use own dialogs exists in the LibreOffice/OpenOffice options.
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The sad part is the OOo/LibreOffice file picker dialog boxes are crappy to anyone who has grown accustomed to KDialog. :(
Agreed. When I have time I will see what can be done about reintegrating the Trinity file pickers, perhaps as some kind of add-on module.
Tim
On 3/15/11, Timothy Pearson kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net wrote:
The sad part is the OOo/LibreOffice file picker dialog boxes are crappy to anyone who has grown accustomed to KDialog. :(
Agreed. When I have time I will see what can be done about reintegrating the Trinity file pickers, perhaps as some kind of add-on module.
Tim
This problem happened before kde3 was archived. OOo is ONLY supporting certain distros version of kde3. Both OOo and LO's kde support work with mandriva 2010 for example. My niece was using LO until I found them to be to abusive to trust. So I switched her over to OOo. Stay with the devil you know and all that.
Kate
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:58 PM, Katheryne Draven borgqueen4@gmail.com wrote:
This problem happened before kde3 was archived. OOo is ONLY supporting certain distros version of kde3. Both OOo and LO's kde support work with mandriva 2010 for example. My niece was using LO until I found them to be to abusive to trust. So I switched her over to OOo. Stay with the devil you know and all that.
Kate
What was LO doing?
On 3/16/11, Kristopher Gamrat pikidalto@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:58 PM, Katheryne Draven borgqueen4@gmail.com wrote:
This problem happened before kde3 was archived. OOo is ONLY supporting certain distros version of kde3. Both OOo and LO's kde support work with mandriva 2010 for example. My niece was using LO until I found them to be to abusive to trust. So I switched her over to OOo. Stay with the devil you know and all that.
Kate
What was LO doing?
Pardon?
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kde3 still could be suported, but libreoffice must be recompiled for that
with the options
./configure --with-distro=Debian --disable-kde4 --enable-kde --enable-gtk
etc etc
all build or more options are available from http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/How_to_build/Configure_option...
so lest get read more, currently I could not compile full cos my VIA P4M800 machine is not exactly the best option for these tasks.. ramdomly segfaults on gcc compiling time appears...
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 1:39 AM, Katheryne Draven borgqueen4@gmail.comwrote:
On 3/16/11, Kristopher Gamrat pikidalto@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:58 PM, Katheryne Draven <borgqueen4@gmail.com
wrote:
This problem happened before kde3 was archived. OOo is ONLY supporting certain distros version of kde3. Both OOo and LO's kde support work with mandriva 2010 for example. My niece was using LO until I found them to be to abusive to trust. So I switched her over to OOo. Stay with the devil you know and all that.
Kate
What was LO doing?
Pardon?
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On Wednesday 16 March 2011 16:05:43 PICCORO McKAY Lenz wrote:
kde3 still could be suported, but libreoffice must be recompiled for that
with the options
./configure --with-distro=Debian --disable-kde4 --enable-kde --enable-gtk
There is no need to disable kde4 to enable kde3. Works well with the both options enabled.
Except the file chooser package which is non-functional.
if filechooser dont work, this kde4 & kde3 enabling option are non-usefully..
idea its works woth kde3 not kde4 so...
so then disabling kde4 are mandatory..
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Ilya Chernykh neptunia@mail.ru wrote:
On Wednesday 16 March 2011 16:05:43 PICCORO McKAY Lenz wrote:
kde3 still could be suported, but libreoffice must be recompiled for that
with the options
./configure --with-distro=Debian --disable-kde4 --enable-kde --enable-gtk
There is no need to disable kde4 to enable kde3. Works well with the both options enabled.
Except the file chooser package which is non-functional.
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On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 2:09 AM, Katheryne Draven borgqueen4@gmail.com wrote:
On 3/16/11, Kristopher Gamrat pikidalto@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:58 PM, Katheryne Draven borgqueen4@gmail.com wrote:
This problem happened before kde3 was archived. OOo is ONLY supporting certain distros version of kde3. Both OOo and LO's kde support work with mandriva 2010 for example. My niece was using LO until I found them to be to abusive to trust. So I switched her over to OOo. Stay with the devil you know and all that.
Kate
What was LO doing?
Pardon?
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You said they were being abusive to trust.
Would contacting the LO team be better? I haven't yet tried, but I'm guessing the support for KDE4 works. Probably all that is needed in LO is to look for the correct hook in KDE3/Trinity? Probably a single line of code.
The primary problem with the OOo/LO file pickers is there is no simple way to access the file system tree. KDialog has my bookmarks built in and I can drill to a location quickly.
Darrell
--- On Tue, 3/15/11, Timothy Pearson kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net wrote:
From: Timothy Pearson kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net Subject: Re: [trinity-devel] LibreOffice FilePickers Fail To: trinity-devel@lists.pearsoncomputing.net Date: Tuesday, March 15, 2011, 7:59 PM
The sad part is the
OOo/LibreOffice file picker dialog boxes are crappy to
anyone who has grown accustomed to KDialog. :(
Agreed. When I have time I will see what can be done about reintegrating the Trinity file pickers, perhaps as some kind of add-on module.
Tim
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On 03/15/2011 07:45 PM, Darrell Anderson wrote:
The sad part is the OOo/LibreOffice file picker dialog boxes are crappy to anyone who has grown accustomed to KDialog. :(
Darrell
In opera, there was an integer setting that allowed the user to specify which toolkit to use for file open/save dialog by specifying either '0', '1', '2', etc.. I don't know if that stil exists, but it got me thinking about OO and libre -- is there any setting or switch that can control dialog selection??
I don't know, that's why I'm putting it out to the smart folks here. The current dialogs without the "quick access" or "folder" window on the left side of the file-chooser dialog are completely useless for quickly navigating a filesystem.