11 Feb
2012
11 Feb
'12
2:28 a.m.
just in case someone missed it:
http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2012/02/having-a-look-at-the-oldnew-d…
werner
11 Feb
11 Feb
7:18 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] trinity coverage
Here is my screenshot. Can you do that in KDE4?
I tried KDE4 2 times. So you can't put me in your second group.
I don't know what means "classic". I always tried something new hoping
that it will be better. So you can't put me in your third group too. A
first group? No, of course not.
I just found ideal UI spare the bugs and incompleteness (which I can
fix when I get retired). For me ideal means more features. The more
settings UI has the more it will be possible to fit someone's needs,
the more it will be ideal.
When I discovered that version 4 can't do things that I got accustomed
to expect from KDE desktop, I was very disappointed. I as user
expected from new version that it could do same and more, but in fact
it appeared that it could do lot more but it can't do same. "The lot
more" I found pretty useless, so for me "the same" is the crucial
thing!
My thought of why this happened evolved through time since that
happened. And now I can guess that this happened because the creators
of KDE4 done it not for people but for themselves. They wanted some
new experience, they saw what Microsoft did with Vista and Mac with
Leopard (or what does it called). But, I personally don't believe in
trend of "simplifying" features.
The degraded Gwenview for example. How someone could guess that once
pretty good program could become this?! They removed features from
Amarok such as bar-graph spectrum viewer. Kscope became totally
useless! How can one call this? An experiment at best!
Hmmm... Maybe I hate KDE4 after all.... So put me in your second group! :))
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Werner Joss
<werner(a)hoernerfranzracing.de> wrote:
just in case someone missed it:
http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2012/02/having-a-look-at-the-oldnew-d…
werner
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On Saturday 11 February 2012 16:18:06 Aleksey Midenkov wrote:
I tried KDE4 2 times. So you can't put me in your
second group.
I think you misunderstood my post.
the link provided does not reflect my personal opinion on the covered
subject(s) - I just wanted everybody here to read it (and draw his own
conclusions).
werner
11:58 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] trinity coverage
On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 19:18:06 +0400
Aleksey Midenkov <midenok(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Here is my screenshot. Can you do that in KDE4?
Everything except the distinct USB icons, with the 2 yrs old KDE 4.4.3
(I didn't try with KDE 4.8).
I tried KDE4 2 times. So you can't put me in your second group.
I don't know what means "classic". I always tried something new hoping
that it will be better. So you can't put me in your third group too. A
first group? No, of course not.
I just found ideal UI spare the bugs and incompleteness (which I can
fix when I get retired). For me ideal means more features. The more
settings UI has the more it will be possible to fit someone's needs,
the more it will be ideal.
When I discovered that version 4 can't do things that I got accustomed
to expect from KDE desktop, I was very disappointed. I as user
expected from new version that it could do same and more, but in fact
it appeared that it could do lot more but it can't do same. "The lot
more" I found pretty useless, so for me "the same" is the crucial
thing!
My thought of why this happened evolved through time since that
happened. And now I can guess that this happened because the creators
of KDE4 done it not for people but for themselves. They wanted some
new experience, they saw what Microsoft did with Vista and Mac with
Leopard (or what does it called). But, I personally don't believe in
trend of "simplifying" features.
The degraded Gwenview for example. How someone could guess that once
pretty good program could become this?! They removed features from
Amarok such as bar-graph spectrum viewer. Kscope became totally
useless! How can one call this? An experiment at best!
Hmmm... Maybe I hate KDE4 after all.... So put me in your second
group! :))
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Werner Joss
<werner(a)hoernerfranzracing.de> wrote:
> just in case someone missed it:
>
http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2012/02/having-a-look-at-the-oldnew-d…
>
> werner
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7:53 a.m.
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just in case someone missed it:
http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2012/02/having-a-look-at-the-oldnew-d…
The only hatred I see is Martin's.
We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming.
Darrell
11:10 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] trinity coverage
just in case
someone missed it:
http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2012/02/having-a-look-at-the-oldnew-d…
The only hatred I see is Martin's.
We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming.
Darrell
11:25 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] trinity coverage
just in case someone missed it:
http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2012/02/having-a-look-at-the-oldnew-d…
The only hatred I see is Martin's.
We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming.
Darrell 
2:37 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] trinity coverage
On 11 February 2012 14:25, Timothy Pearson <kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net> wrote:
Here's a challenge to all the people here:
Find one thing you can do in TDE that you can't do in KDE4.8 and post it
on this Etherpad:
http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/41
Also note the fastest way to access the feature (i.e. minimum amount of
mouse clicks/typing) and post how many left/right mouse clicks you used to
access the feature.
If Martin wants to spread FUD we do need to counter him. :-)
Tim
After reading through Martin's blog post I am bemused.
"the project gets dominated by users and developers hating the KDE 4
technology." - well yes of course it is you. Hello Mr. Obvious! But
sorry, I won't be hiring you as my private detective.
"So the users looking for Trinity as a lightweight alternative to KDE
Plasma just fail to realize that five years ago they were screaming
that KDE 3.5 is too heavy. " - Great, ever heard of Moore's Law? 5
years ago we had much worse technology.
"I have read quite often that “Qt 3 is now maintained by Trinity”.
This is a pure lie." - Not a lie. Definitely not. We are not
Developing it, but maintaining it by providing a central place to
import patches to and keep it up to date with modern compilers. "To
keep in an existing state; preserve or retain: maintain one's
composure.", that is the definition of maintaining and that is what we
are doing.
"The good news is that there is a sane project providing a classic Qt
based desktop: Razor-Qt." - Yet our goals are very different, using Qt
has nothing to do with it. That is like saying xfce should quit
because gnome also uses GTK+
"It is built up on Qt 4 and has a clear project aim." - Trinity has a
very clear focus. In fact it's stated on our website. On of our other
goals is to improve and expand the Trinity HCI model, and to make sure
our environment provides the maximum user experience for those seeking
this traditional mouse and keyboard model.
And Finally,
"So my recommendation for all Trinity users is to either try again KDE
Plasma 4.8 or to give razor a try."
Great, I am actually typing this on KDE4.8
Trinity is no project anybody could seriously recommend and a stock
KDE 3.5 is most likely a better solution than Trinity."
just in case
someone missed it:
http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2012/02/having-a-look-at-the-oldnew-d…
The only hatred I see is Martin's.
We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming.
Darrell
2:39 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] trinity coverage
On 11 February 2012 17:37, Calvin Morrison <mutantturkey(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 11 February 2012 14:25, Timothy Pearson
<kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net> wrote:
After reading through Martin's blog post I am bemused.
"the project gets dominated by users and developers hating the KDE 4
technology." - well yes of course it is you. Hello Mr. Obvious! But
sorry, I won't be hiring you as my private detective.
"So the users looking for Trinity as a lightweight alternative to KDE
Plasma just fail to realize that five years ago they were screaming
that KDE 3.5 is too heavy. " - Great, ever heard of Moore's Law? 5
years ago we had much worse technology.
"I have read quite often that “Qt 3 is now maintained by Trinity”.
This is a pure lie." - Not a lie. Definitely not. We are not
Developing it, but maintaining it by providing a central place to
import patches to and keep it up to date with modern compilers. "To
keep in an existing state; preserve or retain: maintain one's
composure.", that is the definition of maintaining and that is what we
are doing.
"The good news is that there is a sane project providing a classic Qt
based desktop: Razor-Qt." - Yet our goals are very different, using Qt
has nothing to do with it. That is like saying xfce should quit
because gnome also uses GTK+
"It is built up on Qt 4 and has a clear project aim." - Trinity has a
very clear focus. In fact it's stated on our website. On of our other
goals is to improve and expand the Trinity HCI model, and to make sure
our environment provides the maximum user experience for those seeking
this traditional mouse and keyboard model.
Sorry, Gmail's new interface is a joke:p
And Finally,
"So my recommendation for all Trinity users is to either try again KDE
Plasma 4.8 or to give razor a try."
Great, I am actually typing this on KDE4.8 machine. I was going to
type this with kmail - but I cant get it working. I am finding 4.8 to
be a smooth experience but not one that I want.
> just in case someone missed it:
>
http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2012/02/having-a-look-at-the-oldnew-d…
The only hatred I see is Martin's.
We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming.
Darrell
Here's a challenge to all the people here:
Find one thing you can do in TDE that you can't do in KDE4.8 and post it
on this Etherpad:
http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/41
Also note the fastest way to access the feature (i.e. minimum amount of
mouse clicks/typing) and post how many left/right mouse clicks you used to
access the feature.
If Martin wants to spread FUD we do need to counter him. :-)
Tim Trinity is no project anybody could seriously
recommend and a stock
KDE 3.5 is most likely a better solution than Trinity."
Howso? KDE3.5 is certainly far behind Trinity. It has been out of date
and not maintained for almost 4 years. this is ridiculous.
I think there is bad karma on both sides, but I'm pretty pissed at the
disrespect.
Calvin Morrison
2:58 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] trinity coverage
On 11 February 2012 17:37, Calvin Morrison
<mutantturkey(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Here's my other suggestion. If anyone here finds anything even *slightly*
wrong/annoying in KDE 4.8, file bug reports at kde.org. This would
include stupid design decisions like the greyscale task tray icons, which
are very difficult to distinguish from one another at a glance.
I am sick and tired of "close enough" software on Linux, where the feeling
of being pecked to death by ducks (i.e. having thousands of little tiny
bugs or visual distractions) slows the user down tremendously, yet each
little bug seems so innocuous that no one ever bothers to fix them. Guess
what devs, you won't see those users complaining (not that you care
anyway, right?) because they will simply go somewhere where their needs
are met, such as Windows.
Oh, and if KDE closes the bug report as "WONTFIX", or moves the priority
to enhancement/wishlist, please post a link to the bug report on the
Etherpad I mentioned earlier.
Tim
On 11 February 2012 14:25, Timothy Pearson
<kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net>
wrote:
After reading through Martin's blog post I am bemused.
"the project gets dominated by users and developers hating the KDE 4
technology." - well yes of course it is you. Hello Mr. Obvious! But
sorry, I won't be hiring you as my private detective.
"So the users looking for Trinity as a lightweight alternative to KDE
Plasma just fail to realize that five years ago they were screaming
that KDE 3.5 is too heavy. " - Great, ever heard of Moore's Law? 5
years ago we had much worse technology.
"I have read quite often that Qt 3 is now maintained by Trinity.
This is a pure lie." - Not a lie. Definitely not. We are not
Developing it, but maintaining it by providing a central place to
import patches to and keep it up to date with modern compilers. "To
keep in an existing state; preserve or retain: maintain one's
composure.", that is the definition of maintaining and that is what we
are doing.
"The good news is that there is a sane project providing a classic Qt
based desktop: Razor-Qt." - Yet our goals are very different, using Qt
has nothing to do with it. That is like saying xfce should quit
because gnome also uses GTK+
"It is built up on Qt 4 and has a clear project aim." - Trinity has a
very clear focus. In fact it's stated on our website. On of our other
goals is to improve and expand the Trinity HCI model, and to make sure
our environment provides the maximum user experience for those seeking
this traditional mouse and keyboard model.
Sorry, Gmail's new interface is a joke:p
And Finally,
"So my recommendation for all Trinity users is to either try again KDE
Plasma 4.8 or to give razor a try."
Great, I am actually typing this on KDE4.8 machine. I was going to
type this with kmail - but I cant get it working. I am finding 4.8 to
be a smooth experience but not one that I want.
>>
just in case someone missed it:
>>
http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2012/02/having-a-look-at-the-oldnew-d…
>
> The only hatred I see is Martin's.
>
> We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming.
>
> Darrell
Here's a challenge to all the people here:
Find one thing you can do in TDE that you can't do in KDE4.8 and post
it
on this Etherpad:
http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/41
Also note the fastest way to access the feature (i.e. minimum amount
of
mouse clicks/typing) and post how many left/right mouse clicks you
used to
access the feature.
If Martin wants to spread FUD we do need to counter him. :-)
Tim
Trinity is no project anybody could seriously
recommend and a stock
KDE 3.5 is most likely a better solution than Trinity."
Howso? KDE3.5 is certainly far behind Trinity. It has been out of date
and not maintained for almost 4 years. this is ridiculous.
I think there is bad karma on both sides, but I'm pretty pissed at the
disrespect.
Calvin Morrison 
3:22 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] trinity coverage
Am Samstag, 11. Februar 2012 schrieb Timothy Pearson:
I think I was banned 5 times from kde.org for doing that ... but that was a
year (or 2) ago :-)
Nik
On 11 February
2012 17:37, Calvin Morrison <mutantturkey(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Here's my other suggestion. If anyone here finds anything even *slightly*
wrong/annoying in KDE 4.8, file bug reports at kde.org. This would
include stupid design decisions like the greyscale task tray icons, which
are very difficult to distinguish from one another at a glance.
I am sick and tired of "close enough" software on Linux, where the feeling
of being pecked to death by ducks (i.e. having thousands of little tiny
bugs or visual distractions) slows the user down tremendously, yet each
little bug seems so innocuous that no one ever bothers to fix them. Guess
what devs, you won't see those users complaining (not that you care
anyway, right?) because they will simply go somewhere where their needs
are met, such as Windows.
Oh, and if KDE closes the bug report as "WONTFIX", or moves the priority
to enhancement/wishlist, please post a link to the bug report on the
Etherpad I mentioned earlier.
Tim On 11 February 2012 14:25, Timothy Pearson
<kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net>
wrote:
Sorry, Gmail's new interface is a joke:p
And Finally,
"So my recommendation for all Trinity users is to either try again KDE
Plasma 4.8 or to give razor a try."
Great, I am actually typing this on KDE4.8 machine. I was going to
type this with kmail - but I cant get it working. I am finding 4.8 to
be a smooth experience but not one that I want.
>>> just in case someone missed it:
>>> http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2012/02/having-a-look-at-the-o
>>>ldnew-desktop-environments/
>>
>> The only hatred I see is Martin's.
>>
>> We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming.
>>
>> Darrell
>
> Here's a challenge to all the people here:
>
> Find one thing you can do in TDE that you can't do in KDE4.8 and post
> it
> on this Etherpad:
> http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/41
>
> Also note the fastest way to access the feature (i.e. minimum amount
> of
> mouse clicks/typing) and post how many left/right mouse clicks you
> used to
> access the feature.
>
> If Martin wants to spread FUD we do need to counter him. :-)
>
> Tim
After reading through Martin's blog post I am bemused.
"the project gets dominated by users and developers hating the KDE 4
technology." - well yes of course it is you. Hello Mr. Obvious! But
sorry, I won't be hiring you as my private detective.
"So the users looking for Trinity as a lightweight alternative to KDE
Plasma just fail to realize that five years ago they were screaming
that KDE 3.5 is too heavy. " - Great, ever heard of Moore's Law? 5
years ago we had much worse technology.
"I have read quite often that Qt 3 is now maintained by Trinity.
This is a pure lie." - Not a lie. Definitely not. We are not
Developing it, but maintaining it by providing a central place to
import patches to and keep it up to date with modern compilers. "To
keep in an existing state; preserve or retain: maintain one's
composure.", that is the definition of maintaining and that is what we
are doing.
"The good news is that there is a sane project providing a classic Qt
based desktop: Razor-Qt." - Yet our goals are very different, using Qt
has nothing to do with it. That is like saying xfce should quit
because gnome also uses GTK+
"It is built up on Qt 4 and has a clear project aim." - Trinity has a
very clear focus. In fact it's stated on our website. On of our other
goals is to improve and expand the Trinity HCI model, and to make sure
our environment provides the maximum user experience for those seeking
this traditional mouse and keyboard model. Trinity is no project anybody could seriously
recommend and a stock
KDE 3.5 is most likely a better solution than Trinity."
Howso? KDE3.5 is certainly far behind Trinity. It has been out of date
and not maintained for almost 4 years. this is ridiculous.
I think there is bad karma on both sides, but I'm pretty pissed at the
disrespect.
Calvin Morrison
4:30 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] trinity coverage
Here's my
other suggestion. If anyone here finds anything even
*slightly*
wrong/annoying in KDE 4.8, file bug reports at kde.org. This would
include stupid design decisions like the greyscale task tray icons,
which
are very difficult to distinguish from one another at a glance.
I am sick and tired of "close enough" software on Linux, where the
feeling
of being pecked to death by ducks (i.e. having thousands of little tiny
bugs or visual distractions) slows the user down tremendously, yet each
little bug seems so innocuous that no one ever bothers to fix them.
Guess
what devs, you won't see those users complaining (not that you care
anyway, right?) because they will simply go somewhere where their needs
are met, such as Windows.
Oh, and if KDE closes the bug report as "WONTFIX", or moves the priority
to enhancement/wishlist, please post a link to the bug report on the
Etherpad I mentioned earlier.
Tim
I think I was banned 5 times from kde.org for doing that ... but that was
a
year (or 2) ago :-)
Nik
11:49 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] trinity coverage
Does anyone here have the ability to test things in KDE 4.8?
I have at least one thing that did not work in 4.5 but I have no way
to test it in 4.8?
Keith
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Timothy Pearson
<kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net> wrote:
Here's a challenge to all the people here:
Find one thing you can do in TDE that you can't do in KDE4.8 and post it
on this Etherpad:
http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/41
Also note the fastest way to access the feature (i.e. minimum amount of
mouse clicks/typing) and post how many left/right mouse clicks you used to
access the feature.
If Martin wants to spread FUD we do need to counter him. :-)
Tim
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We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming.
Darrell
noon
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On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 14:49:57 -0500
Keith Daniels <keithwdaniels(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Does anyone here have the ability to test things in
KDE 4.8?
I have at least one thing that did not work in 4.5 but I have no way
to test it in 4.8?
I have a KDE 4.8 Arch setup on a laptop, with working
compositing/Plasma/Akonadi (FOSS radeon driver).
Keith
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Timothy Pearson
<kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net> wrote:
Here's a challenge to all the people here:
Find one thing you can do in TDE that you can't do in KDE4.8 and
post it on this Etherpad:
http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/41
Also note the fastest way to access the feature (i.e. minimum
amount of mouse clicks/typing) and post how many left/right mouse
clicks you used to access the feature.
If Martin wants to spread FUD we do need to counter him. :-)
Tim
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1:17 p.m.
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/dev/ammo42
Thanks,
Try this using Kate.
Open any text file and start search using regex.
enter:
^$
in the search box and see if it can find a blank line.
That is sorta basic, and that and other problems with regex in
searches was the main reason I gave up on KDE-4.
uh... I don't think I have ever seen a 42 caliber device (at least in
weapons <grin>).
Keith
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 3:00 PM, /dev/ammo42 <mickeytintincolle(a)yahoo.fr> wrote:
On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 14:49:57 -0500
Keith Daniels <keithwdaniels(a)gmail.com> wrote:
--
Latin America will never be stable as long as the US has it's drug
mania (both for and against) and keeps trying to change the drug
habits of its own citizens by shooting people in other countries."
Keith Daniels 1996
Does anyone here have the ability to test things
in KDE 4.8?
I have at least one thing that did not work in 4.5 but I have no way
to test it in 4.8?
I have a KDE 4.8 Arch setup on a laptop, with working
compositing/Plasma/Akonadi (FOSS radeon driver).
Keith
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Timothy Pearson
<kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net> wrote:
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> just
in case someone missed it:
>
http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2012/02/having-a-look-at-the-oldnew-d…
The only hatred I see is Martin's.
We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming.
Darrell
Here's a challenge to all the people here:
Find one thing you can do in TDE that you can't do in KDE4.8 and
post it on this Etherpad:
http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/41
Also note the fastest way to access the feature (i.e. minimum
amount of mouse clicks/typing) and post how many left/right mouse
clicks you used to access the feature.
If Martin wants to spread FUD we do need to counter him. :-)
Tim
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New subject: [trinity-devel] trinity coverage
I did some research and according to the KDE Forum Manager at:
http://forum.kde.org/
the problem with ^$ was fixed in 4.6 beta 2 (about a year ago... it
took them from vs 4.0 to 4.6 to fix that?????)
The problem with regular expression searches involving \n was fixed in 4.5.2.
So even though it took them several years they say they fixed it.
Keith
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 4:17 PM, Keith Daniels <keithwdaniels(a)gmail.com> wrote:
/dev/ammo42
Thanks,
Try this using Kate.
Open any text file and start search using regex.
enter:
^$
in the search box and see if it can find a blank line.
That is sorta basic, and that and other problems with regex in
searches was the main reason I gave up on KDE-4.
uh... I don't think I have ever seen a 42 caliber device (at least in
weapons <grin>).
Keith
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 3:00 PM, /dev/ammo42 <mickeytintincolle(a)yahoo.fr> wrote:
--
Latin America will never be stable as long as the US has it's drug
mania (both for and against) and keeps trying to change the drug
habits of its own citizens by shooting people in other countries."
Keith Daniels 1996
On Sat, 11 Feb 2012 14:49:57 -0500
Keith Daniels <keithwdaniels(a)gmail.com> wrote:
--
Latin America will never be stable as long as the US has it's drug
mania (both for and against) and keeps trying to change the drug
habits of its own citizens by shooting people in other countries."
Keith Daniels 1996 Does anyone here have the ability to test things
in KDE 4.8?
I have at least one thing that did not work in 4.5 but I have no way
to test it in 4.8?
I have a KDE 4.8 Arch setup on a laptop, with working
compositing/Plasma/Akonadi (FOSS radeon driver).
Keith
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Timothy Pearson
<kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net> wrote:
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>> just in case someone missed it:
>>
http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2012/02/having-a-look-at-the-oldnew-d…
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> The only hatred I see is Martin's.
>
> We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming.
>
> Darrell
Here's a challenge to all the people here:
Find one thing you can do in TDE that you can't do in KDE4.8 and
post it on this Etherpad:
http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/41
Also note the fastest way to access the feature (i.e. minimum
amount of mouse clicks/typing) and post how many left/right mouse
clicks you used to access the feature.
If Martin wants to spread FUD we do need to counter him. :-)
Tim
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New subject: [trinity-devel] trinity coverage
On Saturday 11 February 2012 23:10:01 Timothy Pearson wrote:
You may be interested to add this bugreport to the list:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=245874
I.e. the removal of spatial mode from file manager. While the checkbox still remains
as a heritage from KDE3, the actual code has been removed and the checkbox does
not affect anything.
Darrell
Here's a challenge to all the people here:
Find one thing you can do in TDE that you can't do in KDE4.8 and post it
on this Etherpad:
http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/41
Also note the fastest way to access the feature (i.e. minimum amount of
mouse clicks/typing) and post how many left/right mouse clicks you used to
access the feature.
If Martin wants to spread FUD we do need to counter him. :-)
7:49 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] trinity coverage
On Saturday 11 February 2012 23:10:01 Timothy Pearson
wrote:
You may be interested to add this bugreport to the list:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=245874
I.e. the removal of spatial mode from file manager. While the checkbox
still remains
as a heritage from KDE3, the actual code has been removed and the checkbox
does
not affect anything.
Added. Thanks for your input. :-)
Tim
Darrell
Here's a challenge to all the people here:
Find one thing you can do in TDE that you can't do in KDE4.8 and post it
on this Etherpad:
http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/41
Also note the fastest way to access the feature (i.e. minimum amount of
mouse clicks/typing) and post how many left/right mouse clicks you used
to
access the feature.
If Martin wants to spread FUD we do need to counter him. :-)
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