0% of 0 completed, ETA = --:--:--, speed = 0 0% of 0 completed, ETA = --:--:--, speed = 0 0% of 0 completed, ETA = --:--:--, speed = 0 0% of 0 completed, ETA = --:--:--, speed = 0 0% of 0 completed, ETA = --:--:--, speed = 0 ... is how most trinity packages are shown being processed for installation, in contrast to packages from mageia's own mirrored repos, which result in numbers in place of the dashes and zeros, and few or no blank lines in between. This is for sure in cauldron (9 to be), and I think also in 8, and it has been this way too long to remember. Indeed I always forget to do this in an X session in order to capture more detail without losing it off top of tty screen, inaccessible since the demise of kernel's scrollback 2 years ago. Is there a repo for Cauldron? There's talk of version freeze for v9 coming up before long. So far I've been using 8's TDE in Cauldron, usually without serious issues. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata