It is TDE, which is continued development on a fork of KDE3. There are significant practical problems with renaming major user visible applications (konsole and konqueror come to mind), both in terms of the sound of the new name and major retraining effort/confusion. Remember that some people have been using these applications by name for close to a decade. The renaming effort has mainly focused on libraries and very small applications that users are unlikely to ever execute by name directly. Tim

I'm updating the help files and user guides. I plan to add a section titled something like "The K and T In App Names." I will explain the history of the naming convention. In that section I could explain the gradual renaming efforts and state the goal is gradual and that renaming is not a priority and only a nice goal. In recent discussions I mentioned we have no documentation review process. Any renaming necessarily requires a documentation review (and I'm doing just that in my current revisions). Long term, if done correctly, upon release the documentation will reflect the new name and any renaming will require only an announcement in all mailing lists and any "What's New" documents we push with each release. I notice some in this list still refer to package names with a k rather than the newer t. :) I'm a long-time user with deeply engrained habits. Yet I don't see major hurdles with renaming. We have to be careful to keep everybody fully informed, that's all. We can change text strings in the sources, but we can't change custom configurations or scripts users have created. For example, recently I was troubleshooting something and made no progress until I realized I was incorrectly typing kdesu rather than tdesu. Another example is one of my startup scripts failed to work as expected until I realized I had not yet updated from kdm to tdm. Yes, there will be mental adjustments with any significant renaming. I agree there should be both a forewarning announcement as well as a release announcement. :) Darrell

On Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:19:52 -0600 "David C. Rankin" <drankinatty(a)suddenlinkmail.com> wrote: Or we could completely change the names, as MATÉ did. For Konsole, unfortunately Terminal and Terminator both exist. I think Trinitype (as a name which is close to Teletype) could be a good name, but as I'm French-speaking I can't say if it sounds good ;) For Konqueror, the original name came from the browsers (http://konqueror.kde.org/faq/#WheredoesthenameiKonqueroricomefrom): Navigator, Explorer, Konqueror. Perhaps ColonisT would be a good sequel ?

On 23 February 2012 15:00, Timothy Pearson <kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net> wrote: We need to consider that while these applications might have arbitrary names - they are just as arbitrary as Apple or Microsoft, Chevy or Ford or Mozilla Firefox. But what do these names carry? Recognition. Recognition. Recognition. Whenever KDE3 is mentioned in a reddit thread on /r/linux, it almost always involves "I wish I had Konqueror back". That recognition is important. I say we leave applications that are recognizable by name the same. Konsole, Kicker, Konversation, Konqueror. but KPPP and KPDF and other less notable ones should be renamed. P.S. Colon-ist? I don't want to be the butt of every joke. Calvin

On 02/23/2012 02:21 PM, Calvin Morrison wrote: Or -- don't rename a damn thing unless absolutely required :) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.