3 Jun
2018
3 Jun
'18
6:21 a.m.
That's the response to:
tdecmshell fonts
This is far from the first time I've had to ask this, but I can never remember
how to locate anything that provided an answer, likely because I've asked on
IRC, where I have no archive, instead of here. Other than kinfocenter5, I don't
see any package or menu item containing infocenter either. It's not missing from
the KControl window. tdecmshell xserver does work.
I have another installation, apparently with all the same trinity packages
installed, which is running tdecmshell fonts. lsof | grep cmshell shows only:
/opt/trinity/bin/tdecmshell
/opt/trinity/lib64/libtdeinit_tdescmshell.so
These exist on both systems.
What package contains the fonts module in 14.0.x? Why does it run on one but not
the other?
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On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 7:21 AM, Felix Miata <mrmazda(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
That's the response to:
tdecmshell fonts
This is far from the first time I've had to ask this, but I can never remember
how to locate anything that provided an answer, likely because I've asked on
IRC, where I have no archive, instead of here. Other than kinfocenter5, I don't
see any package or menu item containing infocenter either. It's not missing from
the KControl window. tdecmshell xserver does work.
I have another installation, apparently with all the same trinity packages
installed, which is running tdecmshell fonts. lsof | grep cmshell shows only:
/opt/trinity/bin/tdecmshell
/opt/trinity/lib64/libtdeinit_tdescmshell.so
These exist on both systems.
What package contains the fonts module in 14.0.x? Why does it run on one but not
the other?
if you have one working system and one not, install strace and run
this on both systems:
$ strace -o log.txt -ff tdecmshell fonts
you can then do a "diff" on the two sets of log.txt.NNNNN files and it
should be blindingly obvious where one file significantly differs from
the other. it's going to be awkward because the files will be pretty
different: you could instead put the two files side-by-side in xterms
of identical height and do page-down page-down page-down instead.
l.
8:27 a.m.
deloptes composed on 2018-06-03 09:26 (UTC+0200):
Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> you could instead put the two files side-by-side
in xterms
> of identical height and do page-down page-down page-down instead.
there is kdiff3 for that
It does a nice job of showing off differences. I see lots of differences related
to which fonts are or are not installed, and the different hostnames and various
addresses, but I fail to ID any missing bit to ID why 760's 'tdecmshell
fonts'
fails and 780's succeeds.
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On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 9:27 AM, Felix Miata <mrmazda(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
deloptes composed on 2018-06-03 09:26 (UTC+0200):
you'll be looking for the first "major" obvious difference. "the
font is missing" is f****g useless: you already know that. it will be
something like a directory name, or a .so missing, or a .so loaded
from a *different directory* or... a config file that is missing or...
basically something right at the start.
by the time you get to "the fonts are not loaded"... well... you
already know that, so you're clearly *not* looking for that...
... *UNLESS*....
the locations where each system is *looking* for the fonts is
different. *that* is something you will want to know.
track and *interpret* the differences... don't just go "errr there are
differences". work backwards for what the *important* differences
are.
l.
Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> you could instead put the two files
side-by-side in xterms
> of identical height and do page-down page-down page-down instead.
there is kdiff3 for that
It does a nice job of showing off differences. I see lots of differences related
to which fonts are or are not installed, and the different hostnames and various
addresses, but I fail to ID any missing bit to ID why 760's 'tdecmshell
fonts'
fails and 780's succeeds.
10 a.m.
open("/usr/share/locale/locale.alias", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3
fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=2939, ...}) = 0
-read(3, "# Locale name alias data base.\n#"..., 4096) = 2939
-read(3, "", 4096) = 0
+read(3, "# Locale name alias data base.\n#"..., 1024) = 1024
+read(3, "nd for the time being for\n# back"..., 1024) = 1024
+read(3, "59-1\ngalego\t\tgl_ES.ISO-8859-1\nga"..., 1024) = 891
+read(3, "", 1024) = 0
close(3) = 0
first major difference: locale not set.
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On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 10:56 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
<lkcl(a)lkcl.net> wrote:
On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 9:27 AM, Felix Miata
<mrmazda(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
deloptes composed on 2018-06-03 09:26
(UTC+0200):
you'll be looking for the first "major" obvious difference. "the
font is missing" is f****g useless: you already know that. it will be
something like a directory name, or a .so missing, or a .so loaded
from a *different directory* or... a config file that is missing or...
basically something right at the start.
by the time you get to "the fonts are not loaded"... well... you
already know that, so you're clearly *not* looking for that...
... *UNLESS*....
the locations where each system is *looking* for the fonts is
different. *that* is something you will want to know.
track and *interpret* the differences... don't just go "errr there are
differences". work backwards for what the *important* differences
are.
l. Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> you could instead put the two files
side-by-side in xterms
> of identical height and do page-down page-down page-down instead.
there is kdiff3 for that
It does a nice job of showing off differences. I see lots of differences related
to which fonts are or are not installed, and the different hostnames and various
addresses, but I fail to ID any missing bit to ID why 760's 'tdecmshell
fonts'
fails and 780's succeeds.
10:01 a.m.
read(5, "<?xml version='1.0'?>\n<!DOCTYPE "..., 8192) = 3364
read(5, "", 8192) = 0
close(5) = 0
-getrandom("\xd8\xfc\x79\x69\xc3\xed\x3f\x71", 8, GRND_NONBLOCK) = 8
-stat("/root/.config/fontconfig/rendering-options.conf",
{st_mode=S_IFREG|0664, st_size=517, ...}) = 0
-stat("/root/.config/fontconfig/rendering-options.conf",
{st_mode=S_IFREG|0664, st_size=517, ...}) = 0
-access("/root/.config/fontconfig/rendering-options.conf", R_OK) = 0
-stat("/root/.config/fontconfig/rendering-options.conf",
{st_mode=S_IFREG|0664, st_size=517, ...}) = 0
-openat(AT_FDCWD, "/root/.config/fontconfig/rendering-options.conf",
O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 5
-read(5, "<?xml version=\"1.0\"?>\n<!DOCTYPE "..., 8192) =
517
-read(5, "", 8192) = 0
-close(5) = 0
-getrandom("\x20\xa3\xc2\x43\x63\x24\x77\xb2", 8, GRND_NONBLOCK) = 8
-access("/root/.config/fontconfig/rendering-options.conf", R_OK) = 0
+getrandom("\xb3\x97\xce\xa5\xef\x3f\xce\xd0", 8, GRND_NONBLOCK) = 8
+stat("/root/.config/fontconfig/rendering-options.conf",
0x7fff190f8e30) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
+stat("/root/.config/fontconfig/rendering-options.conf",
0x7fff190f8e30) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
+access("/root/.config/fontconfig/rendering-options.conf", R_OK) = -1
ENOENT (No such file or directory)
+access("/root/.config/fontconfig/rendering-options.conf", R_OK) = -1
ENOENT (No such file or directory)
second major difference:
/root/.config/fontconfig/rendering-options.conf is not empty on one of
the systems.
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On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 11:00 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
<lkcl(a)lkcl.net> wrote:
open("/usr/share/locale/locale.alias",
O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3
fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=2939, ...}) = 0
-read(3, "# Locale name alias data base.\n#"..., 4096) = 2939
-read(3, "", 4096) = 0
+read(3, "# Locale name alias data base.\n#"..., 1024) = 1024
+read(3, "nd for the time being for\n# back"..., 1024) = 1024
+read(3, "59-1\ngalego\t\tgl_ES.ISO-8859-1\nga"..., 1024) = 891
+read(3, "", 1024) = 0
close(3) = 0
first major difference: locale not set.
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On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 10:56 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
<lkcl(a)lkcl.net> wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 9:27 AM, Felix Miata <mrmazda(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
>> deloptes composed on 2018-06-03 09:26 (UTC+0200):
>>
>>> Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
>>
>>>> you could instead put the two files side-by-side in xterms
>>>> of identical height and do page-down page-down page-down instead.
>>
>>> there is kdiff3 for that
>>
>> It does a nice job of showing off differences. I see lots of differences related
>> to which fonts are or are not installed, and the different hostnames and various
>> addresses, but I fail to ID any missing bit to ID why 760's 'tdecmshell
fonts'
>> fails and 780's succeeds.
>
> you'll be looking for the first "major" obvious difference.
"the
> font is missing" is f****g useless: you already know that. it will be
> something like a directory name, or a .so missing, or a .so loaded
> from a *different directory* or... a config file that is missing or...
> basically something right at the start.
>
> by the time you get to "the fonts are not loaded"... well... you
> already know that, so you're clearly *not* looking for that...
>
> ... *UNLESS*....
>
> the locations where each system is *looking* for the fonts is
> different. *that* is something you will want to know.
>
> track and *interpret* the differences... don't just go "errr there are
> differences". work backwards for what the *important* differences
> are.
>
> l.
10:03 a.m.
) = 5
read(5, "<?xml version=\"1.0\"?>\n<!DOCTYPE "..., 8192) =
8192
read(5, "ol>true</bool></test>\n\t <family"..., 8192) =
8192
read(5, "rue</bool></test>\n\t <family>Ari"..., 8192) =
1737
read(5, "", 8192) = 0
close(5) = 0
-getrandom("\xb9\x62\x9e\xde\xf0\x67\x1e\xe4", 8, GRND_NONBLOCK) = 8
+getrandom("\xbd\xd6\x85\x56\x07\x99\x3b\x97", 8, GRND_NONBLOCK) = 8
+access("/etc/fonts/conf.d/31-cantarell.conf", R_OK) = 0
+stat("/etc/fonts/conf.d/31-cantarell.conf", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644,
st_size=440, ...}) = 0
+openat(AT_FDCWD, "/etc/fonts/conf.d/31-cantarell.conf", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) =
5
+read(5, "<?xml version=\"1.0\" encoding=\"UT"..., 8192) =
440
+read(5, "", 8192) = 0
+close(5) = 0
+getrandom("\xbe\xfa\x92\x55\x6b\x7e\xf1\xef", 8, GRND_NONBLOCK) = 8
access("/etc/fonts/conf.d/31-linux-libertine.conf", R_OK) = 0
stat("/etc/fonts/conf.d/31-linux-libertine.conf",
{st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=986, ...}) = 0
openat(AT_FDCWD, "/etc/fonts/conf.d/31-linux-libertine.conf",
O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 5
read(5, "<fontconfig>\n <alias>\n "..., 8192) = 986
read(5, "", 8192) = 0
third major difference: /etc/fonts/conf.d/31-cantarell.conf is loaded
on the *EXACT* same system that reads
/root/.config/fontconfig/rendering-options.conf (the exact same system
that did NOT have a locale set
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On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 11:01 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
<lkcl(a)lkcl.net> wrote:
read(5, "<?xml
version='1.0'?>\n<!DOCTYPE "..., 8192) = 3364
read(5, "", 8192) = 0
close(5) = 0
-getrandom("\xd8\xfc\x79\x69\xc3\xed\x3f\x71", 8, GRND_NONBLOCK) = 8
-stat("/root/.config/fontconfig/rendering-options.conf",
{st_mode=S_IFREG|0664, st_size=517, ...}) = 0
-stat("/root/.config/fontconfig/rendering-options.conf",
{st_mode=S_IFREG|0664, st_size=517, ...}) = 0
-access("/root/.config/fontconfig/rendering-options.conf", R_OK) = 0
-stat("/root/.config/fontconfig/rendering-options.conf",
{st_mode=S_IFREG|0664, st_size=517, ...}) = 0
-openat(AT_FDCWD, "/root/.config/fontconfig/rendering-options.conf",
O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 5
-read(5, "<?xml version=\"1.0\"?>\n<!DOCTYPE "..., 8192) =
517
-read(5, "", 8192) = 0
-close(5) = 0
-getrandom("\x20\xa3\xc2\x43\x63\x24\x77\xb2", 8, GRND_NONBLOCK) = 8
-access("/root/.config/fontconfig/rendering-options.conf", R_OK) = 0
+getrandom("\xb3\x97\xce\xa5\xef\x3f\xce\xd0", 8, GRND_NONBLOCK) = 8
+stat("/root/.config/fontconfig/rendering-options.conf",
0x7fff190f8e30) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
+stat("/root/.config/fontconfig/rendering-options.conf",
0x7fff190f8e30) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
+access("/root/.config/fontconfig/rendering-options.conf", R_OK) = -1
ENOENT (No such file or directory)
+access("/root/.config/fontconfig/rendering-options.conf", R_OK) = -1
ENOENT (No such file or directory)
second major difference:
/root/.config/fontconfig/rendering-options.conf is not empty on one of
the systems.
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On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 11:00 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
<lkcl(a)lkcl.net> wrote:
> open("/usr/share/locale/locale.alias", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3
> fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=2939, ...}) = 0
> -read(3, "# Locale name alias data base.\n#"..., 4096) = 2939
> -read(3, "", 4096) = 0
> +read(3, "# Locale name alias data base.\n#"..., 1024) = 1024
> +read(3, "nd for the time being for\n# back"..., 1024) = 1024
> +read(3, "59-1\ngalego\t\tgl_ES.ISO-8859-1\nga"..., 1024) = 891
> +read(3, "", 1024) = 0
> close(3) = 0
>
>
> first major difference: locale not set.
>
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>
>
> On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 10:56 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
> <lkcl(a)lkcl.net> wrote:
>> On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 9:27 AM, Felix Miata <mrmazda(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> deloptes composed on 2018-06-03 09:26 (UTC+0200):
>>>
>>>> Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
>>>
>>>>> you could instead put the two files side-by-side in xterms
>>>>> of identical height and do page-down page-down page-down instead.
>>>
>>>> there is kdiff3 for that
>>>
>>> It does a nice job of showing off differences. I see lots of differences
related
>>> to which fonts are or are not installed, and the different hostnames and
various
>>> addresses, but I fail to ID any missing bit to ID why 760's
'tdecmshell fonts'
>>> fails and 780's succeeds.
>>
>> you'll be looking for the first "major" obvious difference.
"the
>> font is missing" is f****g useless: you already know that. it will be
>> something like a directory name, or a .so missing, or a .so loaded
>> from a *different directory* or... a config file that is missing or...
>> basically something right at the start.
>>
>> by the time you get to "the fonts are not loaded"... well... you
>> already know that, so you're clearly *not* looking for that...
>>
>> ... *UNLESS*....
>>
>> the locations where each system is *looking* for the fonts is
>> different. *that* is something you will want to know.
>>
>> track and *interpret* the differences... don't just go "errr there are
>> differences". work backwards for what the *important* differences
>> are.
>>
>> l.
10:08 a.m.
read(4,
"\4\374\2\374\7\0\0\0\250\1\0\0\0\0\0\0@\0\0\0\0\0\0\0X\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"...,
424) = 424
close(4) = 0
-stat("/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts", 0x7fffb06ec980) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
-stat("/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts", 0x7fffb06ec9f0) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
-stat("/opt/kde3/share/fonts", 0x7fffb06ec980) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
-stat("/opt/kde3/share/fonts", 0x7fffb06ec9f0) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
-stat("/usr/local/share/fonts", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0
+stat("/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts", 0x7fff19101bb0) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
+stat("/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts", 0x7fff19101c20) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
+stat("/opt/kde3/share/fonts", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=1024, ...}) = 0
+openat(AT_FDCWD, "/opt/kde3/share/fonts", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 4
+fstatfs(4, {f_type=EXT2_SUPER_MAGIC, f_bsize=1024, f_blocks=5655093,
f_bfree=719784, f_bavail=428969, f_files=358400, f_ffree=251758,
f_fsid={val=[1551756211, 225110432]}, f_namelen=255, f_frsize=1024,
f_flags=ST_VALID|ST_NOATIME}) = 0
+close(4) = 0
+openat(AT_FDCWD,
"/var/cache/fontconfig//cf6c88e680607f2ab796171745f068a4-x86_64.cache-7",
O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 4
+fstat(4, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=104, ...}) = 0
+fstatfs(4, {f_type=EXT2_SUPER_MAGIC, f_bsize=1024, f_blocks=5655093,
f_bfree=719783, f_bavail=428968, f_files=358400, f_ffree=251758,
f_fsid={val=[1551756211, 225110432]}, f_namelen=255, f_frsize=1024,
f_flags=ST_VALID|ST_NOATIME}) = 0
+read(4,
"\4\374\2\374\7\0\0\0h\0\0\0\0\0\0\0@\0\0\0\0\0\0\0X\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"...,
104) = 104
+close(4) = 0
+stat("/usr/local/share/fonts", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|S_ISGID|0775,
st_size=4096, ...}) = 0
openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/local/share/fonts", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 4
fourth major difference: on the first system, /opt/kde3/share/fonts
does not exist.
my point is: you can't just go "um the files look different, there
appears to be some stuff about fonts", you have to *LOOK* at the file
differences, see what the system calls are, and be discerning.
if you're not familiar with this concept see "Knowledge Type 3" here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advaita_Vedanta#Epistemology_-_ways_of_knowing
l.
10:12 a.m.
120) = 120
close(4) = 0
openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/X11/locale/locale.alias", O_RDONLY) = 4
fstat(4, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=81760, ...}) = 0
-read(4, "\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n"...,
4096) = 4096
-read(4, "IN.UTF-8\nbo_IN.utf8\t\t\t\t\tbo_IN.UT"..., 4096) = 4096
-read(4, "o\t\t\t\t\tde_DE.ISO8859-15\nde_DE.885"..., 4096) = 4096
fifth major difference: /usr/share/X11/local/locale.alias appears to
contain far more lines on the second system than on the first.
access("/usr/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/XLC_LOCALE", R_OK) = 0
openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/XLC_LOCALE", O_RDONLY) = 4
fstat(4, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=4254, ...}) = 0
-read(4, "\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n"...,
4096) = 4096
-read(4, "R\n}\n \n#\tcs20 class\ncs15\t{\n\tside\t"..., 4096) = 158
-read(4, "", 4096) = 0
+read(4, "\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n"...,
1024) = 1024
+read(4, "\tISO8859-7:GR\n\t}\n}\n#\tfs9 class ("..., 1024) = 1024
+read(4, "24 class\nfs16\t{\n\tcharset\t{\n\t\tnam"..., 1024) = 1024
+read(4, " GR\n length "..., 1024) = 1024
+read(4, "R\n}\n \n#\tcs20 class\ncs15\t{\n\tside\t"..., 1024) = 158
+read(4, "", 1024) = 0
close(4) = 0
the en_US.UTF-8 LC_LOCALE is also different.
10:16 a.m.
-lstat("/root/.trinity/share/config", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0700,
st_size=4096, ...}) = 0
-lstat("/opt", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0
-lstat("/opt/trinity", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0
-lstat("/opt/trinity/share", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}) = 0
-lstat("/opt/trinity/share/config", 0x7fffb06eb230) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
-access("/opt/trinity/share/config", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file
or directory)
-stat("/root/.trinity/share/config/kdeglobals", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0600,
st_size=7834, ...}) = 0
-stat("/etc/trinity/kdeglobals", 0x7fffb06ec1f0) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
+lstat("/root/.trinity", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0700, st_size=1024, ...}) = 0
+lstat("/root/.trinity/share", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=1024, ...}) = 0
+lstat("/root/.trinity/share/config", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755,
st_size=3072, ...}) = 0
+lstat("/opt", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=1024, ...}) = 0
+lstat("/opt/trinity", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=1024, ...}) = 0
+lstat("/opt/trinity/share", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=1024, ...}) = 0
+lstat("/opt/trinity/share/config", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755,
st_size=1024, ...}) = 0
+access("/opt/trinity/share/config", F_OK) = 0
+lstat("/opt/trinity/share/config", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755,
st_size=1024, ...}) = 0
+stat("/root/.trinity/share/config/kdeglobals", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0600,
st_size=8624, ...}) = 0
+stat("/etc/trinity/kdeglobals", 0x7fff19101420) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
+stat("/opt/trinity/share/config/kdeglobals", 0x7fff19101420) = -1
ENOENT (No such file or directory)
access("/etc/tderc", R_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
-stat("/root/.trinity/share/config/system.kdeglobals", 0x7fffb06ec1f0)
= -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
-stat("/etc/trinity/system.kdeglobals", 0x7fffb06ec1f0) = -1 ENOENT
(No such file or directory)
+stat("/root/.trinity/share/config/system.kdeglobals", 0x7fff19101420)
= -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
+stat("/etc/trinity/system.kdeglobals", 0x7fff19101420) = -1 ENOENT
(No such file or directory)
+stat("/opt/trinity/share/config/system.kdeglobals", 0x7fff19101420) =
-1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
openat(AT_FDCWD, "/root/.trinity/share/config/kdeglobals", O_RDONLY) = 11
seventh major difference: the 2nd system is looking for and finds a
/opt/trinity/share/config directory... the first does not have that
directory (line 5 of the above):
-lstat("/opt/trinity/share/config", 0x7fffb06eb230) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
how were each of these systems created? they're clearly not the same.
i'd strongly suggest doing a dpkg -L on each (or dpkg-get-selections),
a find / (with excluding of /dev, /proc etc - see updatedb's cron job
for an example) on each and then do a diff on those.
l.
10:22 a.m.
access("/root/.trinity/share/locale/POSIX/LC_MESSAGES/tdecmshell.mo",
R_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
access("/opt/trinity/share/locale/POSIX/LC_MESSAGES/tdecmshell.mo",
R_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
-access("/usr/share/locale-langpack/POSIX/LC_MESSAGES/tdecmshell.mo",
R_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
access("/root/.trinity/share/locale-bundle/POSIX/LC_MESSAGES/tdecmshell.mo",
R_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
9th major difference: there are signs that the directory
/usr/share/locale-langpack does not exist:
+access("/usr/share/locale-langpack", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file
or directory)
also, one of the systems appears to have been set to plastik style,
the other to keramik
at that point the differences becomes significant (line 2603) because
the styles do radically different things. one is looking for
/etc/tqt3/qtrc and finds it, the other doesn't look for it.
l.
12:31 p.m.
Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton composed on 2018-06-03 11:22 (UTC+0100):
9th major difference: there are signs that the
directory
/usr/share/locale-langpack does not exist:
+access("/usr/share/locale-langpack", F_OK)
= -1 ENOENT (No such file
or directory)
also, one of the systems appears to have been set to
plastik style,
the other to keramik
at that point the differences becomes significant
(line 2603) because
the styles do radically different things. one is looking for
/etc/tqt3/qtrc and finds it, the other doesn't look for it.
I recognized all those fontconfig/installed fonts/not installed fonts to be
irrelevant. The fonts unit worked find via kcontrol.
I've updated
https://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2821
with the cause: having yast2-fonts installed breaks the finding of module fonts.
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On Sun, Jun 3, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Felix Miata <mrmazda(a)earthlink.net> wrote:
Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton composed on 2018-06-03
11:22 (UTC+0100):
interesting. is that reproducible on both systems (add yast2-fonts
on each, remove yast2-fonts on each). it would be worthwhile adding
strace logs for both systems, before and after yast2-fonts installed.
l.
9th major difference: there are signs that the
directory
/usr/share/locale-langpack does not exist:
+access("/usr/share/locale-langpack",
F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file
or directory)
also, one of the systems appears to have been set
to plastik style,
the other to keramik
at that point the differences becomes significant
(line 2603) because
the styles do radically different things. one is looking for
/etc/tqt3/qtrc and finds it, the other doesn't look for it.
I recognized all those fontconfig/installed fonts/not installed fonts to be
irrelevant. The fonts unit worked find via kcontrol.
I've updated
https://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2821
with the cause: having yast2-fonts installed breaks the finding of module fonts.
9:57 p.m.
Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton composed on 2018-06-03 21:19 (UTC+0100):
Felix Miata wrote:
> I've updated
> https://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2821
> with the cause: having yast2-fonts installed breaks the finding of module fonts.
interesting. is that reproducible on both systems
(add yast2-fonts
on each, remove yast2-fonts on each). it would be worthwhile adding
strace logs for both systems, before and after yast2-fonts installed.
Bug updated again with easy third host reproduction. I brought this up on
https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-kde3/2018-06/msg00000.html but more likely
it might do any good on the yast2-devel list, which if it produces no response
likely I'll do.
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4 Jun
3:20 a.m.
Felix Miata composed on 2018-06-03 17:57 (UTC-0400):
Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton composed on 2018-06-03
21:19 (UTC+0100):
> Felix Miata wrote:
>> I've updated
>> https://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2821
>> with the cause: having yast2-fonts installed breaks the finding of module fonts.
> interesting. is that reproducible on both
systems (add yast2-fonts
> on each, remove yast2-fonts on each). it would be worthwhile adding
> strace logs for both systems, before and after yast2-fonts installed.
Bug updated again with easy third host reproduction. I
brought this up on
https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-kde3/2018-06/msg00000.html but more likely
it might do any good on the yast2-devel list, which if it produces no response
likely I'll do.
Since this also happens on Tumbleweed, I filed a downstream bug:
https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1095704
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