I am typing this message from a Trinity session built from GIT. Trinity is noticeably snappier than my KDE3 setup. Even Firefox responds faster, both in page rendering speed and interface response. Except for the startup speed Firefox almost feels native. I feel as though I have new hardware, the difference is that noticeable. After we eliminate some build issues and resolve some usability bugs I think R14 will be nice indeed. Very nice. Much faster. Thanks everybody! Darrell