All, I'm back - I hope. What started as a planned week "family trip" (not exactly vacation -- 3 kids, car 16 hour road trip)( was actually great), but on return left us a week behind in all other aspects of life, with a case scheduled for 4/21 multiple depos remaining, pre-trial, etc.. -- then my client had a stroke. (enough said, but I'm just finally getting unburried in time for taxes :-) Slavek, have you had a chance to look at bug 1998. I am stuck after implementing the k4 multiseat patches in TDE, which compile beautifully and appear to solve part of the problem with tde_dbus_hardwarecontrol, but I am lost following the effects of the patch through the remainder of the code. (the patches include a new tdebase/cmake/modules/FindSystemd.cmake, that makes systemd available to cmake when found on the target system) I need help getting this patch implemented. TDE is NOT enterprise ready without it. TDE must allow user access to sound, user mount (cd/dvd/usb, etc..) via normal udev/polkit, and must prevent the race conditions with tdehwlib/tdepowersave, etc. with the purse systemd implementation. Right now it doesn't. To be blunt, TDE is unusable on pure systemd distros like Arch due to these problems and I can't release TDE to Arch as usable until we get some way of solving this problem. Right now I can build and run TDE, but it takes ugly hacks to provide user access to sound or cd/dvd/usb. (essentially add every user to the audio, sys and disk groups just to get access which is a glaring no-no) Additionally, you have to disable tdepowersave to prevent filling the logs with hundreds-of-thousands of errors (per hour). So far all examples that have been provided where TDE 'works' with systemd have NOT been systemd implementations, but instead init-script implementations of TDE that hand off control to systemd-sysvcompat, not true services where 'systemctl start tdm.service' is used to launch tde/tdm directly by systemd itself. The init-script case is not systemd, but the compatibility mode for the old init-script implementation. Many distros are working through the transition and will be pure-systemd in the very near future (even Debian: https://wiki.debian.org/systemd). So we need to get this fixed. Let's get a plan together for testing/implementing the needed fix. I'm happy to do the work, but it is not something I can do myself in any reasonable amount of time. I need help finding/following all the needles through the TDE haystack. Let me know when you have a bit of time to devote to the issue. All help is welcome. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.