# rpm -qa | grep lasma5-de plasma5-desktop-5.24.4-bp154.2.3.2.x86_64 # rpm -qa | grep ty-kde trinity-kdesktop-14.0.12-1.oss154.x86_64 Trying to run a Plasma session from TDM never completely starts: We are sorry, klauncher closed unexpectedly. You cannot report this error, because klauncher does not provide a bug reporting address. We are sorry, kdepowerdevil, closed unexpectedly. You cannot report... We are sorry, ksplashqml, closed unexpectedly. You cannot report... Trying to run a TDE session there are similar continuously repeating popups from the KDE Crash Handler about segfaulting /usr/bin/kglobalaccel5 that steal focus from anything needed or wanted to do in TDE session. Making it non-executable stops the popups, but making executable again makes the popups return instantly. Removing all KDE settings from ~/.local/share/ and ~/.config/ also fails to prevent this interference in a TDE session unless TDM is also restarted before logging into TDE. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata