23 Nov
2011
23 Nov
'11
10:29 a.m.
Whenever my screen locks (e.g. from my screen saver or from manually locking) and I go to
unlock, I'm told to press CTRL+ALT+Del, and it says it's displaying that so the
login screen doesn't get spoofed.
When logging out, I get a window saying it's saving my settings.
Both of these remind me of WinXP. The CTRL+ALT+Del thing is of WinNT (XP is based on NT).
Is there a way to turn this off?
Also, if the CTRL+ALT+Del thing is used for unlocking, why not too for logging in?
--
Kristopher Gamrat
Ark Linux webmaster
http://www.arklinux.org/
23 Nov
23 Nov
10:47 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Sudden resemblence to WinXP?
Whenever my screen locks (e.g. from my screen saver or
from manually
locking) and I go to unlock, I'm told to press CTRL+ALT+Del, and it says
it's displaying that so the login screen doesn't get spoofed.
When logging out, I get a window saying it's saving my settings.
Both of these remind me of WinXP. The CTRL+ALT+Del thing is of WinNT (XP
is based on NT).
Is there a way to turn this off?
Also, if the CTRL+ALT+Del thing is used for unlocking, why not too for
logging in?
It is normally used for both unlock and login. It is a generic
implementation of a Secure Attention Key (SAK), without which Linux is
actually less secure than Windows.
The SAK support can be turned off in the KDM control center module.
Tim
10:57 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Sudden resemblence to WinXP?
On Tuesday 22 November 2011 10:47:12 pm Timothy Pearson wrote:
Never heard of it, nor have I ever seen CTRL+ALT+Del in Linux
Whenever my
screen locks (e.g. from my screen saver or from manually
locking) and I go to unlock, I'm told to press CTRL+ALT+Del, and it says
it's displaying that so the login screen doesn't get spoofed.
When logging out, I get a window saying it's saving my settings.
Both of these remind me of WinXP. The CTRL+ALT+Del thing is of WinNT (XP
is based on NT).
Is there a way to turn this off?
Also, if the CTRL+ALT+Del thing is used for unlocking, why not too for
logging in?
It is normally used for both unlock and login. It is a generic
implementation of a Secure Attention Key (SAK), without which Linux is
actually less secure than Windows. The SAK support can be turned off in the KDM control
center module.
I don't see it anywhere under Login Manager or KDM Theme Manager. These are the only
two modules that show up when I type kdm into the search box for kcontrol.
--
Kristopher Gamrat
Ark Linux webmaster
http://www.arklinux.org/
11:09 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Sudden resemblence to WinXP?
It is normally
used for both unlock and login.
It is a generic
implementation of a Secure Attention Key (SAK),
without which Linux is
actually less secure than Windows.
Never heard of it, nor have I ever seen CTRL+ALT+Del in
Linux The SAK
support can be turned off in the KDM control
center module.
I don't see it anywhere under Login Manager or KDM Theme
Manager. These are the only two modules that show up when I
type kdm into the search box for kcontrol.
11:19 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Sudden resemblence to WinXP?
On Tuesday 22 November 2011 11:09:10 pm Darrell Anderson wrote:
For years I have been using Ctrl-Alt-Del to exit KDE. I also for many years have been
using Ctrl-Alt-Del at the console to reboot.
Lots of people disable the latter for true multi-user systems.
Meant to say that I never saw it in KDE/TDE.
Under the Appearance tab, last item on the bottom. If you don't have that option was
your package built with SAK support?
Depends on whether the package maintainer built it with SAK support.
Appearance tab where?
--
Kristopher Gamrat
Ark Linux webmaster
http://www.arklinux.org/
It is normally used for both unlock and login.
It is a generic
implementation of a Secure Attention Key (SAK),
without which Linux is
actually less secure than Windows.
Never heard of it, nor have I ever seen CTRL+ALT+Del in
Linux The SAK support can be turned off in the KDM control
center module.
I don't see it anywhere under Login Manager or KDM Theme
Manager. These are the only two modules that show up when I
type kdm into the search box for kcontrol.
12:55 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Sudden resemblence to WinXP?
Under the
Appearance tab, last item on the bottom. If
you don't have that option was your
package built with SAK
support?
Depends on whether the package maintainer built it with SAK
support.
Appearance tab where?
1:17 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Sudden resemblence to WinXP?
On Wednesday 23 November 2011 12:55:36 am Darrell Anderson wrote:
KControl, System Administration, Login Manager, Appearane tab. Underneath the Locale
option: Secure Attention Key.
Darrell
I don't think we're using the same kcontrol. I get as far as kcontrol -> System
Administration -> Login Manager, but there's no Appearance tab.
http://linuxjutsu.com/~kris/Pictures/loginmanager.png
--
Kristopher Gamrat
Ark Linux webmaster
http://www.arklinux.org/
Under the Appearance tab, last item on the bottom. If
you don't have that option was your package built with SAK
support?
Depends on whether the package maintainer built it with SAK
support.
Appearance tab where? 
1:39 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Sudden resemblence to WinXP?
I don't think we're using the same kcontrol. I
get as far
as kcontrol -> System Administration -> Login Manager,
but there's no Appearance tab.
http://linuxjutsu.com/~kris/Pictures/loginmanager.png
Maybe we're using the same words but seeing different things. When you select Login
Manager, the screen that first shows IS the Appearance tab. Look at the top where the tabs
are located (Appearance, Font, Background, Shutdown, Users, Convenience). :)
Looking at your picture, SAK is enabled. Last option in the screen you saved. The option
is ghosted. You'll need admin permissions to modify that in KControl or in kdmrc.
Darrell
10:46 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Sudden resemblence to WinXP?
On Wednesday 23 November 2011 01:39:12 am Darrell Anderson wrote:
Looks like there's a 20 minute lag in your email client:
I don't
think we're using the same kcontrol. I get as far
as kcontrol -> System Administration -> Login Manager,
but there's no Appearance tab.
http://linuxjutsu.com/~kris/Pictures/loginmanager.png
Maybe we're using the same words but seeing different things. When you select Login
Manager, the screen that first shows IS the Appearance tab. Look at the top where the tabs
are located (Appearance, Font, Background, Shutdown, Users, Convenience). :)
Looking at your picture, SAK is enabled. Last option in the screen you saved. The option
is ghosted. You'll need admin permissions to modify that in KControl or in kdmrc.
On Wednesday 23 November 2011 01:17:31 am you wrote:
I sent that just a minute after sending the previous message. I wasn't looking at the
label for the tab selected by default because I didn't remember seeing any SAKS stuff
there. It wasn't until I went to test my screenshot link that I realized I was already
on the correct tab.
--
Kristopher Gamrat
Ark Linux webmaster
http://www.arklinux.org/
On Wednesday 23 November 2011 12:55:36 am Darrell
Anderson wrote:
I don't think we're using the same kcontrol. I get as far as kcontrol ->
System Administration -> Login Manager, but there's no Appearance tab.
http://linuxjutsu.com/~kris/Pictures/loginmanager.png
Or perhaps it is. It's the one selected by default. *gives embarrassed look* >
Under the Appearance tab, last item on the bottom. If
you don't have that option was your package built with SAK
support?
Depends on whether the package maintainer built it with SAK
support.
Appearance tab where?
KControl, System Administration, Login Manager, Appearane tab. Underneath the Locale
option: Secure Attention Key.
Darrell
11:11 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Sudden resemblence to WinXP?
Or perhaps it
is. It's the one selected by default.
*gives embarrassed look*
I sent that just a minute after sending the previous
message. I wasn't looking at the label for the tab selected
by default because I didn't remember seeing any SAKS stuff
there. It wasn't until I went to test my screenshot link
that I realized I was already on the correct tab.
11:09 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Sudden resemblence to WinXP?
On Tuesday 22 November 2011 10:47:12 pm Timothy
Pearson wrote:
Never heard of it, nor have I ever seen CTRL+ALT+Del in Linux
The problem boils down to the fact that I can make a perfect copy of the
login (or lock) screen, leave it running as a non-priviledged user (e.g.
on a public computer), and grab your password. There is no way for you to
know the real login screen from a good fake. The SAK allows the operating
system to reserve a secure keypress (in this case Ctrl+Alt+Del) that no
userspace application will ever be able to see, therefore preventing
emulation of the logon sequence before any passwords are typed.
Whenever
my screen locks (e.g. from my screen saver or from manually
locking) and I go to unlock, I'm told to press CTRL+ALT+Del, and it
says
it's displaying that so the login screen
doesn't get spoofed.
When logging out, I get a window saying it's saving my settings.
Both of these remind me of WinXP. The CTRL+ALT+Del thing is of WinNT
(XP
is based on NT).
Is there a way to turn this off?
Also, if the CTRL+ALT+Del thing is used for unlocking, why not too for
logging in?
It is normally used for both unlock and login. It is a generic
implementation of a Secure Attention Key (SAK), without which Linux is
actually less secure than Windows. The SAK support can be turned off in the KDM
control center module.
I don't see it anywhere under Login Manager or KDM Theme Manager. These
are the only two modules that show up when I type kdm into the search box
for kcontrol.
11:24 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Sudden resemblence to WinXP?
On Tuesday 22 November 2011 11:09:58 pm Timothy Pearson wrote:
A good iptables setup (block all except what's absolutely needed), an encrypted hard
disk, and not allowing physical access to my laptop whilst it is on make me confident that
won't happen :-)
Look for Login Manager in kcontrol.
Also, if you really don't like the startup/shudown splash screens simply
select a splash screen other than "Unified". Many users here like to have
feedback that their computer is actually doing something once logout has
been pressed, but to each their own. ;-)
To quote my previous message:
On Tuesday 22
November 2011 10:47:12 pm Timothy Pearson wrote:
Never heard of it, nor have I ever seen CTRL+ALT+Del in Linux
The problem boils down to the fact that I can make a perfect copy of the
login (or lock) screen, leave it running as a non-priviledged user (e.g.
on a public computer), and grab your password. There is no way for you to
know the real login screen from a good fake. The SAK allows the operating
system to reserve a secure keypress (in this case Ctrl+Alt+Del) that no
userspace application will ever be able to see, therefore preventing
emulation of the logon sequence before any passwords are typed. Whenever
my screen locks (e.g. from my screen saver or from manually
locking) and I go to unlock, I'm told to press CTRL+ALT+Del, and it
says
it's displaying that so the login screen
doesn't get spoofed.
When logging out, I get a window saying it's saving my settings.
Both of these remind me of WinXP. The CTRL+ALT+Del thing is of WinNT
(XP
is based on NT).
Is there a way to turn this off?
Also, if the CTRL+ALT+Del thing is used for unlocking, why not too for
logging in?
It is normally used for both unlock and login. It is a generic
implementation of a Secure Attention Key (SAK), without which Linux is
actually less secure than Windows. The SAK support can be turned off in the KDM
control center module.
I don't see it anywhere under Login Manager or KDM Theme Manager. These
are the only two modules that show up when I type kdm into the search box
for kcontrol. > I don't see it anywhere under Login Manager
or KDM Theme Manager. These
> are the only two modules that show up when I type kdm into the search box
> for kcontrol.
Unified wasn't selected when I installed TDE. It was default to one of the moreblue
splash screens. I've already changed it, but it only affected the login splash. The
logout splash is still a window telling me it's saving me my settings.
--
Kristopher Gamrat
Ark Linux webmaster
http://www.arklinux.org/
11:30 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Sudden resemblence to WinXP?
Hey sort of on/off topic..
Today I was discussing the trinity project with some fellows who share
a lab at Drexel.
One thing two of them mentioned about KDE3.5 that while you can
configure everything, it often is hard to find where the setting is.
They said they liked kde4 not for the widgets, just because it was
easy to customize.
Just a thought
Calvin
On 22/11/2011, Kristopher John Gamrat <chaotickjg(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday 22 November 2011 11:09:58 pm Timothy Pearson wrote:
A good iptables setup (block all except what's absolutely needed), an
encrypted hard disk, and not allowing physical access to my laptop whilst it
is on make me confident that won't happen :-)
Look for Login Manager in kcontrol.
Also, if you really don't like the startup/shudown splash screens simply
select a splash screen other than "Unified". Many users here like to have
feedback that their computer is actually doing something once logout has
been pressed, but to each their own. ;-)
To quote my previous message:
On
Tuesday 22 November 2011 10:47:12 pm Timothy Pearson wrote:
The problem boils down to the fact that I can make a perfect copy of the
login (or lock) screen, leave it running as a non-priviledged user (e.g.
on a public computer), and grab your password. There is no way for you to
know the real login screen from a good fake. The SAK allows the operating
system to reserve a secure keypress (in this case Ctrl+Alt+Del) that no
userspace application will ever be able to see, therefore preventing
emulation of the logon sequence before any passwords are typed. > Whenever my screen locks (e.g. from my
screen saver or from manually
> locking) and I go to unlock, I'm told to press CTRL+ALT+Del, and it
says
> it's displaying that so the login screen doesn't get spoofed.
>
> When logging out, I get a window saying it's saving my settings.
>
> Both of these remind me of WinXP. The CTRL+ALT+Del thing is of WinNT
(XP
> is based on NT).
>
> Is there a way to turn this off?
>
> Also, if the CTRL+ALT+Del thing is used for unlocking, why not too
> for
> logging in?
It is normally used for both unlock and login. It is a generic
implementation of a Secure Attention Key (SAK), without which Linux is
actually less secure than Windows.
Never heard of it, nor have I ever seen CTRL+ALT+Del in Linux The SAK support can be turned off in the KDM
control center module.
I don't see it anywhere under Login Manager or KDM Theme Manager. These
are the only two modules that show up when I type kdm into the search
box
for kcontrol. > I don't see it anywhere under Login
Manager or KDM Theme Manager. These
> are the only two modules that show up when I type kdm into the search
> box
> for kcontrol.
Unified wasn't selected when I installed TDE. It was default to one of the
moreblue splash screens. I've already changed it, but it only affected the
login splash. The logout splash is still a window telling me it's saving me
my settings.
--
Kristopher Gamrat
Ark Linux webmaster
http://www.arklinux.org/
11:36 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Sudden resemblence to WinXP?
Hey sort of on/off topic..
Today I was discussing the trinity project with some fellows who share
a lab at Drexel.
One thing two of them mentioned about KDE3.5 that while you can
configure everything, it often is hard to find where the setting is.
They said they liked kde4 not for the widgets, just because it was
easy to customize.
Just a thought
Calvin
I had the exact opposite reaction--I found KDE4 extremely difficult to
customize, unless they were just referring to adding plasoids and changing
the wallpaper. ;-)
Tim
11:43 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Sudden resemblence to WinXP?
On Tuesday 22 November 2011 11:36:50 pm Timothy Pearson wrote:
I could never figure out the whole plasmoid thing. The whole description of plasmoid and
the difference between widgets and actual desktop elements got me all confused ;-)
--
Kristopher Gamrat
Ark Linux webmaster
http://www.arklinux.org/
Hey sort of
on/off topic..
Today I was discussing the trinity project with some fellows who share
a lab at Drexel.
One thing two of them mentioned about KDE3.5 that while you can
configure everything, it often is hard to find where the setting is.
They said they liked kde4 not for the widgets, just because it was
easy to customize.
Just a thought
Calvin
I had the exact opposite reaction--I found KDE4 extremely difficult to
customize, unless they were just referring to adding plasoids and changing
the wallpaper. ;-)
11:50 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Sudden resemblence to WinXP?
On 22/11/2011, Kristopher John Gamrat <chaotickjg(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday 22 November 2011 11:36:50 pm Timothy
Pearson wrote:
I could never figure out the whole plasmoid thing. The whole description of
plasmoid and the difference between widgets and actual desktop elements got
me all confused ;-)
I was just presenting that fact. They are users, and so we need to
listen to them. They are not biased either way and are interested in
trinity, but that was an interesting point I thought they made.
I think that maybe we need to review our kcontrol mechanism and make
sure all configuration settings are in appropriate spots.
Eg, should keyboard shortcuts be under Regional & Accessibility
Eg. should our compositor have it's own module? it's quite hard to
find under "Window Behavior"
I think we can at least make some things more intuitive.
Calvin Morrison
Hey sort
of on/off topic..
Today I was discussing the trinity project with some fellows who share
a lab at Drexel.
One thing two of them mentioned about KDE3.5 that while you can
configure everything, it often is hard to find where the setting is.
They said they liked kde4 not for the widgets, just because it was
easy to customize.
Just a thought
Calvin
I had the exact opposite reaction--I found KDE4 extremely difficult to
customize, unless they were just referring to adding plasoids and changing
the wallpaper. ;-)
12:14 p.m.
New subject: Kcontrol review
On Tuesday 22 November 2011 11:50:14 pm Calvin Morrison wrote:
On 22/11/2011, Kristopher John Gamrat
<chaotickjg(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I just thought I'd move this to it's own thread. I think it's good to think
about for R14, and more obvious when not used to hijack another thread ;-)
--
Kristopher Gamrat
Ark Linux webmaster
http://www.arklinux.org/
On Tuesday 22 November 2011 11:36:50 pm Timothy
Pearson wrote:
I could never figure out the whole plasmoid thing. The whole description of
plasmoid and the difference between widgets and actual desktop elements got
me all confused ;-)
I was just presenting that fact. They are users, and so we need to
listen to them. They are not biased either way and are interested in
trinity, but that was an interesting point I thought they made.
I think that maybe we need to review our kcontrol mechanism and make
sure all configuration settings are in appropriate spots.
Eg, should keyboard shortcuts be under Regional & Accessibility
Eg. should our compositor have it's own module? it's quite hard to
find under "Window Behavior"
I think we can at least make some things more intuitive.
Calvin Morrison Hey sort
of on/off topic..
Today I was discussing the trinity project with some fellows who share
a lab at Drexel.
One thing two of them mentioned about KDE3.5 that while you can
configure everything, it often is hard to find where the setting is.
They said they liked kde4 not for the widgets, just because it was
easy to customize.
Just a thought
Calvin
I had the exact opposite reaction--I found KDE4 extremely difficult to
customize, unless they were just referring to adding plasoids and changing
the wallpaper. ;-)
12:39 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Sudden resemblence to WinXP?
I was just presenting that fact. They are users, and
so we
need to
listen to them. They are not biased either way and are
interested in
trinity, but that was an interesting point I thought they
made.
I think that maybe we need to review our kcontrol mechanism
and make
sure all configuration settings are in appropriate spots.
Eg, should keyboard shortcuts be under Regional &
Accessibility
Eg. should our compositor have it's own module? it's quite
hard to
find under "Window Behavior"
I think we can at least make some things more intuitive.
+1. The other day I submitted a bug report enhancement request (642) to move the focus
steal prevention level option to the Focus tab. I think little things like this would help
much. We probably all could search the web for complaints about Control Center and find a
few ideas. Does the old KDE3 bugzilla still exist?
Overall I find KDE4's Control Center (System Settings) more confusing that KDE3/TDE,
but that does not mean they haven't moved a few things to a more appropriate location.
We should study the new layout and borrow some adjustments.
Darrell
12:43 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Sudden resemblence to WinXP?
On Wednesday 23 November 2011 12:39:39 am Darrell Anderson wrote:
/me feels ignored
Couldn't resist ^.^
Though I did post this to a new thread.
--
Kristopher Gamrat
Ark Linux webmaster
http://www.arklinux.org/
I was just
presenting that fact. They are users, and so we
need to
listen to them. They are not biased either way and are
interested in
trinity, but that was an interesting point I thought they
made.
I think that maybe we need to review our kcontrol mechanism
and make
sure all configuration settings are in appropriate spots.
Eg, should keyboard shortcuts be under Regional &
Accessibility
Eg. should our compositor have it's own module? it's quite
hard to
find under "Window Behavior"
I think we can at least make some things more intuitive.
+1. The other day I submitted a bug report enhancement request (642) to move the focus
steal prevention level option to the Focus tab. I think little things like this would help
much. We probably all could search the web for complaints about Control Center and find a
few ideas. Does the old KDE3 bugzilla still exist?
Overall I find KDE4's Control Center (System Settings) more confusing that KDE3/TDE,
but that does not mean they haven't moved a few things to a more appropriate location.
We should study the new layout and borrow some adjustments.
Darrell
11:39 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Sudden resemblence to WinXP?
On Tuesday 22 November 2011 11:30:51 pm Calvin Morrison wrote:
Hey sort of on/off topic..
Today I was discussing the trinity project with some fellows who share
a lab at Drexel.
One thing two of them mentioned about KDE3.5 that while you can
configure everything, it often is hard to find where the setting is.
They said they liked kde4 not for the widgets, just because it was
easy to customize.
This is the only setting I've not been able to easily find. I actually have a harder
time in KDE4 with their kcontrol replacement. I did notice that same replacement among the
TDE packages in Debian. If they prefer that over kcontrol, try letting them try it in
TDE.
--
Kristopher Gamrat
Ark Linux webmaster
http://www.arklinux.org/
12:42 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Sudden resemblence to WinXP?
This is the only setting I've not been able to
easily find.
I actually have a harder time in KDE4 with their kcontrol
replacement. I did notice that same replacement among the
TDE packages in Debian. If they prefer that over kcontrol,
try letting them try it in TDE.
Please, please, please, nobody change the layout of KControl. I love the tree view. If
anybody changes the view layout to that of KDE4's System Settings then make the tree
view the default. Please, please, please...
Darrell
11:35 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Sudden resemblence to WinXP?
On Tuesday 22 November 2011 11:09:58 pm Timothy Pearson wrote:
The problem boils down to the fact that I can make a perfect copy of the
login (or lock) screen, leave it running as a non-priviledged user (e.g.
on a public computer), and grab your password. There is no way for you
to
know the real login screen from a good fake. The SAK allows the
operating
system to reserve a secure keypress (in this case Ctrl+Alt+Del) that no
userspace application will ever be able to see, therefore preventing
emulation of the logon sequence before any passwords are typed.
A good iptables setup (block all except what's absolutely needed), an
encrypted hard disk, and not allowing physical access to my laptop whilst
it is on make me confident that won't happen :-)
These
To quote my previous message:
Unified wasn't selected when I installed TDE. It was default to one of the
moreblue splash screens. I've already changed it, but it only affected the
login splash. The logout splash is still a window telling me it's saving
me my settings.
Sorry, it's been a long day and I guess I missed that part in your message.
The saving settings dialog has a configuration file setting but no GUI
configuration checkbox IIRC. Definitely something that should be looked
at for R14.0--a bug report would help.
Tim
On
Tuesday 22 November 2011 10:47:12 pm Timothy Pearson wrote:
> > Whenever my screen locks (e.g. from my screen saver or from
manually
> > locking) and I go to unlock, I'm
told to press CTRL+ALT+Del, and it
> says
> > it's displaying that so the login screen doesn't get spoofed.
> >
> > When logging out, I get a window saying it's saving my settings.
> >
> > Both of these remind me of WinXP. The CTRL+ALT+Del thing is of
WinNT
> (XP
> > is based on NT).
> >
> > Is there a way to turn this off?
> >
> > Also, if the CTRL+ALT+Del thing is used for unlocking, why not too
for
> > logging in?
>
> It is normally used for both unlock and login. It is a generic
> implementation of a Secure Attention Key (SAK), without which Linux
is
actually
less secure than Windows.
Never heard of it, nor have I ever seen CTRL+ALT+Del in Linux The SAK support can be turned off in the KDM
control center module.
I don't see it anywhere under Login Manager or KDM Theme Manager. are the only two modules that show up when I type
kdm into the search
box
for kcontrol.
Look for Login Manager in kcontrol.
Also, if you really don't like the startup/shudown splash screens simply
select a splash screen other than "Unified". Many users here like to
have
feedback that their computer is actually doing something once logout has
been pressed, but to each their own. ;-) I
don't see it anywhere under Login Manager or KDM Theme Manager.
These
are the only two modules that show up when I type
kdm into the search
box
> for kcontrol.
12:51 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Sudden resemblence to WinXP?
Sorry, it's been a long day and I guess I missed
that part
in your message.
The saving settings dialog has a configuration file setting
but no GUI
configuration checkbox IIRC. Definitely something
that should be looked
at for R14.0--a bug report would help.
Bug 681 submitted. :)
Do you remember which config file? I'll test manually changing...
Darrell
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