15 Oct
2012
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15 Oct
15 Oct
1:29 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] more discussion
On Monday 15 October 2012 16:07:55 Calvin Morrison wrote:
The Romanians have a proverb :)
"A dog dies from too much walking, a fool from worrying about other's
business."
--
Serghei
6:39 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] more discussion
I suggest we add a disclaimer about our use of the word "fork." Yes,
technically, Trinity is a fork in the sense that we had to make a distinct effort to break
from the original KDE developers, KDE logos, trademarks, etc. The KDE folks wanted to wash
their hands of KDE3 but retain rights to the name KDE. Anybody who wanted to maintain or
improve the KDE3 code had to move out of the neighborhood.
Fork in name only. In practical terms, Trinity is a continuation of KDE 3.5.10. Trinity is
a project that maintains the KDE3 code base and provides improvements.
In the end, as a community we need to stop back pedaling in self-defense every time Martin
pees. Just ignore him. He is doing a great job of discrediting himself.
I think the ending of Voltaire's Candide applies best to these ongoing debates:
"That's very well said, and may all be true," said Candide; "but
let's cultivate our garden."
Darrell
10:17 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] more discussion
On 2012年10月16日 02:39, Darrell Anderson wrote:
In practical terms, Trinity is a continuation of KDE
3.5.10
I'm sorry, but I have to say you(Trinity) are not. KDE promises binary
compatibility and you(Trinity) breaks it. Is that called continuation ?
Pretending and disclaiming you are a continuation of KDE3 would
eventually only bring more bad names to you(Trinity) and probably KDE.
Face and acknowledge the truth: You are a fork, and everybody already knows.
Seriously, is that so hard and shameful?
Regards
Jekyll
10:25 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] more discussion
In practical
terms, Trinity is a continuation of KDE 3.5.10
I'm sorry, but I have to say you(Trinity) are not. KDE
promises binary compatibility and you(Trinity) breaks it. Is
that called continuation ?
Pretending and disclaiming you are a continuation of KDE3
would eventually only bring more bad names to you(Trinity)
and probably KDE.
Face and acknowledge the truth: You are a fork, and
everybody already knows.
Seriously, is that so hard and shameful?
11:10 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] more discussion
He clearly said "in practical terms". I think that much is clear.
I dont understand the big deal about binary compatiblity. Its a buzzword
and has much less realistic benefit than purported.
Darrell stand behind your statement lad!
On Oct 15, 2012 6:17 PM, "Jekyll Wu" <adaptee(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 2012年10月16日 02:39, Darrell Anderson wrote:
In practical terms, Trinity is a continuation of
KDE 3.5.10
I'm sorry, but I have to say you(Trinity) are not. KDE promises binary
compatibility and you(Trinity) breaks it. Is that called continuation ?
Pretending and disclaiming you are a continuation of KDE3 would eventually
only bring more bad names to you(Trinity) and probably KDE.
Face and acknowledge the truth: You are a fork, and everybody already
knows.
Seriously, is that so hard and shameful?
Regards
Jekyll
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16 Oct
3:30 a.m.
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On Tuesday 16 of October 2012 00:17:11 Jekyll Wu wrote:
On 2012年10月16日 02:39, Darrell Anderson wrote:
Are you sure it's broken binary compatibility? I use Twinkle compiled with KDE
support. Binary is compiled against KDE 3.5.x libraries from Squeeze and QT3
from Squeeze. And same unchanged binary working without any problems with the
TDE 3.5.x libraries and QT3 from Trinity.
Slavek
--
In practical terms, Trinity is a continuation of
KDE 3.5.10
I'm sorry, but I have to say you(Trinity) are not. KDE promises binary
compatibility and you(Trinity) breaks it. Is that called continuation ?
Pretending and disclaiming you are a continuation of KDE3 would
eventually only bring more bad names to you(Trinity) and probably KDE.
Face and acknowledge the truth: You are a fork, and everybody already
knows.
Seriously, is that so hard and shameful?
Regards
Jekyll
6:55 p.m.
In article <201210160530.31317.slavek.banko(a)axis.cz>cz>,
Slávek Banko <trinity-devel(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net> wrote:
On Tuesday 16 of October 2012 00:17:11 Jekyll Wu
wrote:
I suspect KDE long term binary compatibility has as much to do with
the C++ ABI as the code's API. During the lifetime of KDE 3, Debian
progressed from kdelibs4, to (I think) kdelibs4c, to kdelibs4c2, to
kdelibs4c2a, all due to g++ ABI changes. That's leaving aside any Qt
soname changes, which I don't remember so well and can't be fussed to
dig out of the archives.
Nick
--
"The Internet, a sort of ersatz counterfeit of real life"
-- Janet Street-Porter, BBC2, 19th March 1996
On 2012年10月16日 02:39, Darrell Anderson wrote:
Are you sure it's broken binary compatibility? I use Twinkle compiled with KDE
support. Binary is compiled against KDE 3.5.x libraries from Squeeze and QT3
from Squeeze. And same unchanged binary working without any problems with the
TDE 3.5.x libraries and QT3 from Trinity. In practical terms, Trinity is a continuation of
KDE 3.5.10
I'm sorry, but I have to say you(Trinity) are not. KDE promises binary
compatibility and you(Trinity) breaks it. Is that called continuation ?
Pretending and disclaiming you are a continuation of KDE3 would
eventually only bring more bad names to you(Trinity) and probably KDE.
Face and acknowledge the truth: You are a fork, and everybody already
knows.
Seriously, is that so hard and shameful?
Regards
Jekyll
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