We don't have a mechanism to update existing Trinity profiles when updating to R14. For the most part Trinity 3.5.11->3.5.13 profiles essentially are KDE3 profiles. Although the r14-xdg-update script will run automatically for users the first time they run the R14 starttde script, some profile breakage is likely to remain with older config files because the r14-xdg-update script is limited in scope to XDG changes. I suspect more than a few Trinity users are using 3.5.12 and we should ensure their R14 updating experience "just works." 1. How should we detect older profiles? Possibly by looking for the existence of $TDEHOME/share/config twin_update, twinrc, or tdeprintrc? Any other reliable methods? 2. How should we help users update their profiles? Doing so transparently often is best. Possibly the migratekde3 script can accommodate post 3.5.10 profiles although originally I never considered anything other than 3.5.10. Do any users have experience migrating existing profiles from 3.5.x to R14? What were those experiences like? Ideas? Thoughts? Darrell