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All,
It's that time of year again! As we look toward the release of Debian Stretch and another version of TDE, I'd like to ask for your continued support to help keep TDE online.
This year I'm going to try something new. If you donate $40 to TDE [1], I will allow 2 months access to the nightly build repositories that now include Debian Stretch and Raspbian Jessie. Additionally, I'd like those who donate at this level to nominate two bugs that I will personally look into (excepting those relating to support for Wayland, Qt4/Qt5, or Webkit). This way your donations have a direct and positive effect on TDE itself, and TDE can continue to exist in its current form.
Personally I would suggest the LibreOffice integration bug or possibly an update of the GTK3 theme engine to fix the rendering bugs as potential candidates, but in the end it's up to you! A full listing of open bugs is available here:
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=__open__&content=&...
As always, thank you for your support and continued feedback -- we couldn't develop TDE without it!
Tim
[1] https://trinitydesktop.org/donate.php
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All,
It's that time of year again! As we look toward the release of Debian Stretch and another version of TDE, I'd like to ask for your continued support to help keep TDE online.
This year I'm going to try something new. If you donate $40 to TDE [1], I will allow 2 months access to the nightly build repositories that now include Debian Stretch and Raspbian Jessie. Additionally, I'd like those who donate at this level to nominate two bugs that I will personally look into (excepting those relating to support for Wayland, Qt4/Qt5, or Webkit).
I just realized that this did not convey what I was thinking. :) What I was intending was that from all the nominations of those donating at this level, two bugs that were most requested would be selected, not that each person gets to have two bugs fixed.
Sorry for the confusion!
Just done my share. The only bug I'd like to be soved:
Make tde compile on FreeBSD 11, either via portstree (which worked on FreeBSD 10, I think) or direct from source. I know Slavec has put a lot of time into it, and it's a pitty that it won't compile from ports anymore.
Nik
Am Mittwoch, 19. April 2017 schrieb Timothy Pearson:
All,
It's that time of year again! As we look toward the release of Debian Stretch and another version of TDE, I'd like to ask for your continued support to help keep TDE online.
This year I'm going to try something new. If you donate $40 to TDE [1], I will allow 2 months access to the nightly build repositories that now include Debian Stretch and Raspbian Jessie. Additionally, I'd like those who donate at this level to nominate two bugs that I will personally look into (excepting those relating to support for Wayland, Qt4/Qt5, or Webkit). This way your donations have a direct and positive effect on TDE itself, and TDE can continue to exist in its current form.
Personally I would suggest the LibreOffice integration bug or possibly an update of the GTK3 theme engine to fix the rendering bugs as potential candidates, but in the end it's up to you! A full listing of open bugs is available here:
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=__open__&content=&...
As always, thank you for your support and continued feedback -- we couldn't develop TDE without it!
Tim
[1] https://trinitydesktop.org/donate.php
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Hi,
Even if I don't use TDE that much anymore, I gave a little something.
-Alexandre
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Just done my share. The only bug I'd like to be soved:
Make tde compile on FreeBSD 11, either via portstree (which worked on FreeBSD 10, I think) or direct from source. I know Slavec has put a lot of time into it, and it's a pitty that it won't compile from ports anymore.
Nik
Am Mittwoch, 19. April 2017 schrieb Timothy Pearson:
All,
It's that time of year again! As we look toward the release of Debian Stretch and another version of TDE, I'd like to ask for your continued support to help keep TDE online.
This year I'm going to try something new. If you donate $40 to TDE [1], I will allow 2 months access to the nightly build repositories that now include Debian Stretch and Raspbian Jessie. Additionally, I'd like those who donate at this level to nominate two bugs that I will personally look into (excepting those relating to support for Wayland, Qt4/Qt5, or Webkit). This way your donations have a direct and positive effect on TDE itself, and TDE can continue to exist in its current form.
Personally I would suggest the LibreOffice integration bug or possibly an update of the GTK3 theme engine to fix the rendering bugs as potential candidates, but in the end it's up to you! A full listing of open bugs is available here:
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=__open__&content=&...
As always, thank you for your support and continued feedback -- we couldn't develop TDE without it!
Tim
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Hi,
Even if I don't use TDE that much anymore, I gave a little something.
-Alexandre
Thanks!
Out of curiosity, what would we need to do to make you more interested in using TDE? I'd also be interested to know what environment you tend to use more nowadays.
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Just done my share. The only bug I'd like to be soved:
Make tde compile on FreeBSD 11, either via portstree (which worked on FreeBSD 10, I think) or direct from source. I know Slavec has put a lot of time into it, and it's a pitty that it won't compile from ports anymore.
Nik
Sounds like an interesting issue that I'd like to take a look at. Is this already reported at https://bugs.trinitydesktop.org ?
Thanks!
Am Dienstag, 25. April 2017 schrieb Timothy Pearson:
Just done my share. The only bug I'd like to be soved:
Make tde compile on FreeBSD 11, either via portstree (which worked on FreeBSD 10, I think) or direct from source. I know Slavec has put a lot of time into it, and it's a pitty that it won't compile from ports anymore.
Nik
Sounds like an interesting issue that I'd like to take a look at. Is this already reported at https://bugs.trinitydesktop.org ?
I think I wrote it in https://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2752 - but maybe too specific to tqmake and I did not point out that I want to build on a clean/new FreeBSD 11 installation from ports.
According to this comment https://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2744#c4 I think Slavec has compiled TDE for FreeBSD, but I was not able to replicate, so most likely our build environments differ in a suttle but important manner.
Nik
On Wednesday 26 of April 2017 08:29:48 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Am Dienstag, 25. April 2017 schrieb Timothy Pearson:
Just done my share. The only bug I'd like to be soved:
Make tde compile on FreeBSD 11, either via portstree (which worked on FreeBSD 10, I think) or direct from source. I know Slavec has put a lot of time into it, and it's a pitty that it won't compile from ports anymore.
Nik
Sounds like an interesting issue that I'd like to take a look at. Is this already reported at https://bugs.trinitydesktop.org ?
I think I wrote it in https://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2752 - but maybe too specific to tqmake and I did not point out that I want to build on a clean/new FreeBSD 11 installation from ports.
According to this comment https://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2744#c4 I think Slavec has compiled TDE for FreeBSD, but I was not able to replicate, so most likely our build environments differ in a suttle but important manner.
Nik
For now, I have only one FreeBSD testing machine with FreeBSD 10.3. However, I regularly test builds of current TDE 14.0.5~pre.
Donated. I have no opinions on new features other than the continued support and development of Konqueror and Kmail suites. I heavily depend on the samba protocols so if there are any bugs in those areas I would love for those to be fixed.
Thank you Calvin
On 26 April 2017 at 19:05, Slávek Banko slavek.banko@axis.cz wrote:
On Wednesday 26 of April 2017 08:29:48 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Am Dienstag, 25. April 2017 schrieb Timothy Pearson:
Just done my share. The only bug I'd like to be soved:
Make tde compile on FreeBSD 11, either via portstree (which worked on FreeBSD 10, I think) or direct from source. I know Slavec has put a lot of time into it, and it's a pitty that it won't compile from ports anymore.
Nik
Sounds like an interesting issue that I'd like to take a look at. Is this already reported at https://bugs.trinitydesktop.org ?
I think I wrote it in https://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2752 - but maybe too specific to tqmake and I did not point out that I want to build on a clean/new FreeBSD 11 installation from ports.
According to this comment https://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2744#c4 I think Slavec has compiled TDE for FreeBSD, but I was not able to replicate, so most likely our build environments differ in a suttle but important manner.
Nik
For now, I have only one FreeBSD testing machine with FreeBSD 10.3. However, I regularly test builds of current TDE 14.0.5~pre.
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Am Donnerstag, 27. April 2017 schrieb Slávek Banko:
On Wednesday 26 of April 2017 08:29:48 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Am Dienstag, 25. April 2017 schrieb Timothy Pearson:
Just done my share. The only bug I'd like to be soved:
Make tde compile on FreeBSD 11, either via portstree (which worked on FreeBSD 10, I think) or direct from source. I know Slavec has put a lot of time into it, and it's a pitty that it won't compile from ports anymore.
Nik
Sounds like an interesting issue that I'd like to take a look at. Is this already reported at https://bugs.trinitydesktop.org ?
I think I wrote it in https://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2752 - but maybe too specific to tqmake and I did not point out that I want to build on a clean/new FreeBSD 11 installation from ports.
According to this comment https://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2744#c4 I think Slavec has compiled TDE for FreeBSD, but I was not able to replicate, so most likely our build environments differ in a suttle but important manner.
Nik
For now, I have only one FreeBSD testing machine with FreeBSD 10.3. However, I regularly test builds of current TDE 14.0.5~pre.
Hi!
Could you please try FreeBSD 11?
10.3 will reach EOL in less than a year now. Giving the manpower available, it's not likely that there will be a fully working TDE for 10.3 in that time. Another reason for 11 is that all folks I know have already moved their desktop boxes to 11, so there's nothing to gain on 10.3.
Nik
On Tuesday 02 of May 2017 11:10:14 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 27. April 2017 schrieb Slávek Banko:
On Wednesday 26 of April 2017 08:29:48 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Am Dienstag, 25. April 2017 schrieb Timothy Pearson:
Just done my share. The only bug I'd like to be soved:
Make tde compile on FreeBSD 11, either via portstree (which worked on FreeBSD 10, I think) or direct from source. I know Slavec has put a lot of time into it, and it's a pitty that it won't compile from ports anymore.
Nik
Sounds like an interesting issue that I'd like to take a look at. Is this already reported at https://bugs.trinitydesktop.org ?
I think I wrote it in https://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2752 - but maybe too specific to tqmake and I did not point out that I want to build on a clean/new FreeBSD 11 installation from ports.
According to this comment https://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2744#c4 I think Slavec has compiled TDE for FreeBSD, but I was not able to replicate, so most likely our build environments differ in a suttle but important manner.
Nik
For now, I have only one FreeBSD testing machine with FreeBSD 10.3. However, I regularly test builds of current TDE 14.0.5~pre.
Hi!
Could you please try FreeBSD 11?
10.3 will reach EOL in less than a year now. Giving the manpower available, it's not likely that there will be a fully working TDE for 10.3 in that time. Another reason for 11 is that all folks I know have already moved their desktop boxes to 11, so there's nothing to gain on 10.3.
Nik
You're right, it's time to replace FreeBSD 10.3 for 11.0!
As you can see by commits, I have been very busy in recent weeks. However, I hope that soon I will find some time for the Trinity.
Cheers
On Thursday 04 of May 2017 19:52:43 Slávek Banko wrote:
On Tuesday 02 of May 2017 11:10:14 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Hi!
Could you please try FreeBSD 11?
10.3 will reach EOL in less than a year now. Giving the manpower available, it's not likely that there will be a fully working TDE for 10.3 in that time. Another reason for 11 is that all folks I know have already moved their desktop boxes to 11, so there's nothing to gain on 10.3.
Nik
You're right, it's time to replace FreeBSD 10.3 for 11.0!
As you can see by commits, I have been very busy in recent weeks. However, I hope that soon I will find some time for the Trinity.
Cheers
Nik, all,
I stepped forward. I updated my test machine to FreeBSD 11 and then I solved all the problems with building all current Trinity ports. Most recent commits were in connection with FreeBSD... Now FreeBSD ports in tde-packaging are updated to current R14.0.5~pre versions:
http://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tde-packaging/log/freebsd?h=r14.0....
Note: Now I can not test the result because on my test machine XOrg crashes in vesa_drv.so on illegal instruction in xf86SlowBcopy :(
Cheers
Hi Slavec!
Am Samstag, 3. Juni 2017 schrieb Slávek Banko:
On Thursday 04 of May 2017 19:52:43 Slávek Banko wrote:
On Tuesday 02 of May 2017 11:10:14 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Hi!
Could you please try FreeBSD 11?
10.3 will reach EOL in less than a year now. Giving the manpower available, it's not likely that there will be a fully working TDE for 10.3 in that time. Another reason for 11 is that all folks I know have already moved their desktop boxes to 11, so there's nothing to gain on 10.3.
Nik
You're right, it's time to replace FreeBSD 10.3 for 11.0!
As you can see by commits, I have been very busy in recent weeks. However, I hope that soon I will find some time for the Trinity.
Cheers
Nik, all,
I stepped forward. I updated my test machine to FreeBSD 11 and then I solved all the problems with building all current Trinity ports. Most recent commits were in connection with FreeBSD... Now FreeBSD ports in tde-packaging are updated to current R14.0.5~pre versions:
http://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tde-packaging/log/freebsd?h=r14.0....
Note: Now I can not test the result because on my test machine XOrg crashes in vesa_drv.so on illegal instruction in xf86SlowBcopy :(
Cheers
You are my hero, it works!
I did some testing on FreeBSD the last week, here is what I found:
"tdebase/Makefile" has a line "USES+= samba", but there is no "samba" package nor port. It compiles fine without this line, but I have samba44 installed. I'll take a closer look next week.
gcc4: TDE compiles and is fully functional, but I did not try the screenlocking function. :-) gcc5: "tdeaccessibility" and "tdeadmin" do not compile when gcc5 is installed.
Thank you very much for your excelent work!
Nik
On Wednesday 14 of June 2017 23:55:22 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
Hi Slavec!
Am Samstag, 3. Juni 2017 schrieb Slávek Banko:
Nik, all,
I stepped forward. I updated my test machine to FreeBSD 11 and then I solved all the problems with building all current Trinity ports. Most recent commits were in connection with FreeBSD... Now FreeBSD ports in tde-packaging are updated to current R14.0.5~pre versions:
http://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tde-packaging/log/freebsd?h =r14.0.x
Note: Now I can not test the result because on my test machine XOrg crashes in vesa_drv.so on illegal instruction in xf86SlowBcopy :(
Cheers
You are my hero, it works!
I did some testing on FreeBSD the last week, here is what I found:
"tdebase/Makefile" has a line "USES+= samba", but there is no "samba" package nor port. It compiles fine without this line, but I have samba44 installed. I'll take a closer look next week.
gcc4: TDE compiles and is fully functional, but I did not try the screenlocking function. :-) gcc5: "tdeaccessibility" and "tdeadmin" do not compile when gcc5 is installed.
Thank you very much for your excelent work!
Nik
In the current ports is Mk/Uses/samba.mk, which provides samba according to the current version. And the port net/samba-libsmbclient has been canceled. Therefore, USES += samba now ensures smbclient libraries according to the current version of samba.
Note: When I updated system, packages and ports today, pkg-config files are unexpectedly installed into /opt/trinity/libdata/pkgconfig. As if the variable PKGCONFIG_INSTALL_DIR was now predefined in the system.
Cheers
i've forwarded to the arm-netbook mailing list and asked people to distribute widely. l.
--- crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68
On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 7:19 PM, Timothy Pearson kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net wrote:
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It's that time of year again! As we look toward the release of Debian Stretch and another version of TDE, I'd like to ask for your continued support to help keep TDE online.
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i've forwarded to the arm-netbook mailing list and asked people to distribute widely. l.
crowd-funded eco-conscious hardware: https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68
Actually, TDE on an EOMA68 could be interesting, though I haven't really looked into what would be needed to precompile an image for it.
Do you know if there's a Debian CLI image for the EOMA68 anywhere that could be used as a base for a TDE variant?
Thanks!
On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 12:05 AM, Timothy Pearson kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net wrote:
Actually, TDE on an EOMA68
EOMA68 is a standard. you may be referring to the first computer card in the series, called the EOMA68-A20.
could be interesting, though I haven't really looked into what would be needed to precompile an image for it.
done already. tested the armhf packages - they installed and worked perfectly on an already-prepared debian/testing rootfs i had around. the speed and startup time was impressive.
i am considering deploying TDE on the 800-or-so cards going out on the crowdsupply campaign. if however qt5 or systemd is to become an integral part of TDE i would reconsider that decision. qt5 because it so heavy compared to qt3 that i would be deeply concerned about it over-burdening these low-power devices (qt3 is extremely light-weight), and systemd because of both the resource over-utilisation as well as the lack of accountability, security risks, design flaws and the many other factors which are well-known and do not need to be discussed further.
the A20 processor has only a 32-bit memory interface (unlike x86 systems which often have 128-bit-wide data bus bandwidth to DDR3 and in high-end systems have 256-bit-wide buses) and is only a dual-core 1ghz ARM Cortex A7. TDE - *as it stands* - therefore boots up in a reasonable amount of time, applications start up in a reasonable amount of time, and KOffice is, for example, extremely useable.
TDE basically, because it has *NOT* quotes moved forward quotes, is perfectly matched for the capacity and capabilities of low-power systems.
l.
Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
qt5 because it so heavy compared to qt3 that i would be deeply concerned about it over-burdening these low-power devices (qt3 is extremely light-weight), and systemd because of both the resource over-utilisation as well as the lack of accountability, security risks, design flaws and the many other factors which are well-known and do not need to be discussed further.
Since one year I follow SailFish OS, because I am looking forward to replace my Nokia N9 phone. I think it (Mer) is very good project, especially for mobile or tablets. Unfortunately I do not have the time to dive deeper into the project. I just want to point out that Qt5 is not exactly heavy for such low power devices, so your statement is not exactly true regarding this. It uses also systemd for good or for bad. I think the problem with the Qt5 experience lies with the KDE philosophy.
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On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 12:05 AM, Timothy Pearson kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net wrote:
Actually, TDE on an EOMA68
EOMA68 is a standard. you may be referring to the first computer card in the series, called the EOMA68-A20.
could be interesting, though I haven't really looked into what would be needed to precompile an image for it.
done already. tested the armhf packages - they installed and worked perfectly on an already-prepared debian/testing rootfs i had around. the speed and startup time was impressive.
i am considering deploying TDE on the 800-or-so cards going out on the crowdsupply campaign.
This sounds great!
if however qt5 or systemd is to become an integral part of TDE i would reconsider that decision. qt5 because it so heavy compared to qt3 that i would be deeply concerned about it over-burdening these low-power devices (qt3 is extremely light-weight), and systemd because of both the resource over-utilisation as well as the lack of accountability, security risks, design flaws and the many other factors which are well-known and do not need to be discussed further.
This is not in our roadmap at all. The prelimiary work I've done to see if we can gain Wayland support centers around moving drawing to GTK3; Qt4+ are a non-starter in my mind for exactly the same reasons you mention above.
If there is anything I can do to help get TDE onto these systems please let me know!
Tim
On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 7:22 PM, Timothy Pearson kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net wrote:
This is not in our roadmap at all. The prelimiary work I've done to see if we can gain Wayland support centers around moving drawing to GTK3; Qt4+ are a non-starter in my mind for exactly the same reasons you mention above.
whew.
If there is anything I can do to help get TDE onto these systems please let me know!
appreciated, tim. it's surprisingly straightforward, given the packages being available for armhf.
l.
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