9 Dec
2012
9 Dec
'12
1 p.m.
Hi' I've finally done with my trinity migrate on gentoo.
But I've got several issues. The first one and the most painfull is:
For some reason the plasma-desktop starts with trinity.
I don't know where to start with searching the roots of that
problem.... any ideas?
9 Dec
9 Dec
4:26 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Gentoo issues.
Le 09/12/2012 14:00, Fat-Zer a écrit :
Hi' I've finally done with my trinity migrate
on gentoo.
But I've got several issues. The first one and the most painfull is:
For some reason the plasma-desktop starts with trinity.
I don't know where to start with searching the roots of that
problem.... any ideas?
I think all distros have the same problem someday.
It is usually worked around by adding a "plasma-desktop" script in TDE's
path (/opt/trinity/bin)
See:
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=274
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=384
http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tde-packaging/tree/debian/squeeze/kdebas…
The $DESKTOP_SESSION shell variable is set in 'startkde' script. I think
the current value in 3.5.13.1 is "trinity".
Francois
4:38 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Gentoo issues.
François ANDRIOT wrote:
It seems this is a common returning problem. In some of the comments I
read that it's a KDE4/distribution bug also happening with Gnome, but
there aren't any links to upstream filed bugs.
Does anyone have more information on the details of this issue?
Julius
5:29 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Gentoo issues.
On Sun, 9 Dec 2012 17:00:25 +0400
Fat-Zer <fatzer2(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi' I've finally done with my trinity migrate
on gentoo.
But I've got several issues. The first one and the most painfull is:
For some reason the plasma-desktop starts with trinity.
I don't know where to start with searching the roots of that
problem.... any ideas?
Try filtering KDE4 out of your PATH? kde-sunset accomplishes
that with a few lines near the beginning of startkde . . .
5:54 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Gentoo issues.
2012/12/9 E. Liddell <ejlddll(a)googlemail.com>om>:
On Sun, 9 Dec 2012 17:00:25 +0400
Fat-Zer <fatzer2(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Try filtering KDE4 out of your PATH? kde-sunset accomplishes
that with a few lines near the beginning of startkde . . .
you mean to put
${KDEDIR}/bin prior to of /usr/bin? already done....
2012/12/9 François ANDRIOT <francois.andriot(a)free.fr>fr>:
Le 09/12/2012 14:00, Fat-Zer a écrit :
I think all distros have the same problem someday.
It is usually worked around by adding a "plasma-desktop" script in TDE's
path (/opt/trinity/bin)
Brrr... that sounds really ugly...
See:
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=274
http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=384
http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tde-packaging/tree/debian/squeeze/kdebas…
The $DESKTOP_SESSION shell variable is set in 'startkde' script. I think the
current value in 3.5.13.1 is "trinity".
thanks for info, that was
helpful
Seems I found a reason of all this: trinity runs autostart files from
/usr/share as well as from it's own autorun subdirectory.
The nice workaround will be to remove /usr/share/autostart from an
autorun path. I haven't found yet there those paths are come from but
it should work. Anyway it's not a solution...
IMHO the solution will be to stop using files contaning OnlyShowIn=KDE
(it will require small fixes in tdelibs and tdebase) and change all
such entries in our desktop files to TDE.
11:05 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Gentoo issues.
On Sun, 9 Dec 2012 21:54:50 +0400
Fat-Zer <fatzer2(a)gmail.com> wrote:
2012/12/9 E. Liddell <ejlddll(a)googlemail.com>om>:
Not quite what I meant, but what I *did* mean may be irrelevant in any
case, as I haven't had KDE4 installed in many years and Portage many no
longer be neatly placing it off in its own ghetto in /usr/kde/4/ .
On Sun, 9 Dec 2012 17:00:25 +0400
Fat-Zer <fatzer2(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Try filtering KDE4 out of your PATH? kde-sunset accomplishes
that with a few lines near the beginning of startkde . . .
you mean to put
${KDEDIR}/bin prior to of /usr/bin? already done....
10 Dec
10 Dec
9:27 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Gentoo issues.
2012/12/9 Darrell Anderson <darrella(a)hushmail.com>om>:
I remember this bug hitting me a long time ago. The
problem varied
for everybody, but was path and environment variable related. For
path issues we did a lot of work on fortifying the
startkde/starttde script. For example, when the Trinity version of
startkde/starttde is run, $TDEDIR/bin is in the search path before
/usr/bin.
those path-related fixes are helpless for me cause they don't place
the KDEDIR's before /usr/bin if KDEDIR already in the PATH.
For the environment variables the problem was KDE4
startup scripts
in /etc/profile.d being sourced during login as well as the Trinity
profile.d scripts.
In gentoo it contains only a few DE-independent scripts, so not
a
problem for me:
$ ls /etc/profile.d
bash-completion.sh java-config-2.csh java-config-2.sh
Another problem is KDE4 only uses KDEDIRS and not
KDEDIR. One
solution then is not to use KDEDIRS in Trinity.
seems I haven't run into it
yet.
The R14 branch should not have this problem because of
the many XDG
related changes (e.g., OnlyShowIn=TDE). Environment variables all
have been renamed in R14 too (KDEDIR->TDEDIR, etc.).
seems changes to stop run
files with OnlyShowIn=KDE wasn't performed yet.
here are lines with such checks:
tdelibs/kinit/autostart.cpp:181
tdelibs/kio/kio/kservicegroup.cpp:87
Should I fill a bug to track it/make it fixed sooner?
Also, a fringe wild shot, but try running the
migratekde3 script
against your profile directory. The script is not part of 3.5.13.1
but probably will be part of 3.5.13.2. The script is in GIT tdebase:
http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/tdebase/tree/migratekde3
One more about this
script, have you considered to move this
functionality as well as functionality of the r14-xdg-update to
kconf_update?
2012/12/10 E. Liddell <ejlddll(a)googlemail.com>om>:
Not quite what I meant, but what I *did* mean may be
irrelevant in any
case, as I haven't had KDE4 installed in many years and Portage many no
longer be neatly placing it off in its own ghetto in /usr/kde/4/ .
yes, it's
so. since 4.2 AFAIR...
2012/12/9 Fat-Zer <fatzer2(a)gmail.com>om>:
Seems I found a reason of all this: trinity runs
autostart files from
/usr/share as well as from it's own autorun subdirectory.
The nice workaround will be to remove /usr/share/autostart from an
autorun path. I haven't found yet there those paths are come from but
it should work. Anyway it's not a solution...
This one will be hard to
implement cause those lists are based on
prefix list (or something like that I don't know how to call it
correct).
So I'll just apply a patch according to «my solution» and sed all
.desktop files on install.
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