hi all,
Like the subject said i've got problems with tdm. Its just the other branch of the bug Nr 2057. I recently switched from 3.5.13.2 on precise to the nightly builds (R14.0.0 i guess).
And ended up with both kdm-trinity and tdm-trinity. On the way to switch i was getting asked whitch DisplayManager and i choose tdm-trinity. i reboot and ended in the non-X Prompt on tty1. The confusing part is that the command (after login) initctl list shows the service 'tdm-trinity start/running, process 2838'. So i have to 'initctl restart tdm-trinity' to get the X-Login(graphically)
I just looked around a bit in /etc/init/tdm-trinity.conf and it seems alright.
So I'm in a state of confusion. What am i doing wrong
Greetings Werner Bast
On Friday 23 May 2014 15:05:11 you wrote:
hi all,
Like the subject said i've got problems with tdm. Its just the other branch of the bug Nr 2057. I recently switched from 3.5.13.2 on precise to the nightly builds (R14.0.0 i guess).
And ended up with both kdm-trinity and tdm-trinity. On the way to switch i was getting asked whitch DisplayManager and i choose tdm-trinity. i reboot and ended in the non-X Prompt on tty1. The confusing part is that the command (after login) initctl list shows the service 'tdm-trinity start/running, process 2838'. So i have to 'initctl restart tdm-trinity' to get the X-Login(graphically)
I just looked around a bit in /etc/init/tdm-trinity.conf and it seems alright.
So I'm in a state of confusion. What am i doing wrong
Greetings Werner Bast
How did you 'switch' to R14 ? There is a thread on the TDE users list:
:Most simple way to upgrade Trinity" discussing how to upgrade TDE. Since the upgrade path has not been , at least, documented yet, feedback is welcome on what you did, sources.list, commands or ?.
To fix a possible broken install I would make sure I did not have any packages with 'KDE' in the name since R14 has renamed everthing? to TDE Purge leftover KDE-* packages
Am 24.05.2014 02:21, schrieb Greg Madden:
On Friday 23 May 2014 15:05:11 you wrote:
hi all,
Like the subject said i've got problems with tdm. Its just the other branch of the bug Nr 2057. I recently switched from 3.5.13.2 on precise to the nightly builds (R14.0.0 i guess).
And ended up with both kdm-trinity and tdm-trinity. On the way to switch i was getting asked whitch DisplayManager and i choose tdm-trinity. i reboot and ended in the non-X Prompt on tty1. The confusing part is that the command (after login) initctl list shows the service 'tdm-trinity start/running, process 2838'. So i have to 'initctl restart tdm-trinity' to get the X-Login(graphically)
I just looked around a bit in /etc/init/tdm-trinity.conf and it seems alright.
So I'm in a state of confusion. What am i doing wrong
Greetings Werner Bast
How did you 'switch' to R14 ? There is a thread on the TDE users list:
:Most simple way to upgrade Trinity" discussing how to upgrade TDE. Since the upgrade path has not been , at least, documented yet, feedback is welcome on what you did, sources.list, commands or ?.
To fix a possible broken install I would make sure I did not have any packages with 'KDE' in the name since R14 has renamed everthing? to TDE Purge leftover KDE-* packages
I just changed the lines in sources.list. and updated. After that i had to manually start tdm. Then i kicked kdm-trinity*. And nothing changed (the description says its only a transitional package). I had to manually start tdm anyway.
What i also want is not only the solution, but to know where the problem is.
Yours Werner
On Friday 23 May 2014 19:40:36 you wrote:
Am 24.05.2014 02:21, schrieb Greg Madden:
On Friday 23 May 2014 15:05:11 you wrote:
hi all,
Like the subject said i've got problems with tdm. Its just the other branch of the bug Nr 2057. I recently switched from 3.5.13.2 on precise to the nightly builds (R14.0.0 i guess).
And ended up with both kdm-trinity and tdm-trinity. On the way to switch i was getting asked whitch DisplayManager and i choose tdm-trinity. i reboot and ended in the non-X Prompt on tty1. The confusing part is that the command (after login) initctl list shows the service 'tdm-trinity start/running, process 2838'. So i have to 'initctl restart tdm-trinity' to get the X-Login(graphically)
I just looked around a bit in /etc/init/tdm-trinity.conf and it seems alright.
So I'm in a state of confusion. What am i doing wrong
Greetings Werner Bast
How did you 'switch' to R14 ? There is a thread on the TDE users
list:
:Most simple way to upgrade Trinity" discussing how to upgrade : TDE.
Since the upgrade path has not been , at least, documented yet, feedback is welcome on what you did, sources.list, commands or ?.
To fix a possible broken install I would make sure I did not have any packages with 'KDE' in the name since R14 has renamed everthing? to TDE Purge leftover KDE-* packages
I just changed the lines in sources.list. and updated. After that i had to manually start tdm. Then i kicked kdm-trinity*. And nothing changed (the description says its only a transitional package). I had to manually start tdm anyway.
What i also want is not only the solution, but to know where the problem is.
Yours Werner
Is there a 'tdm-trinity' script in '/etc/init.d' ?
Am 24.05.2014 10:39, schrieb Greg Madden:
On Friday 23 May 2014 19:40:36 you wrote:
Am 24.05.2014 02:21, schrieb Greg Madden:
On Friday 23 May 2014 15:05:11 you wrote:
hi all,
Like the subject said i've got problems with tdm. Its just the other branch of the bug Nr 2057. I recently switched from 3.5.13.2 on precise to the nightly builds (R14.0.0 i guess).
And ended up with both kdm-trinity and tdm-trinity. On the way to switch i was getting asked whitch DisplayManager and i choose tdm-trinity. i reboot and ended in the non-X Prompt on tty1. The confusing part is that the command (after login) initctl list shows the service 'tdm-trinity start/running, process 2838'. So i have to 'initctl restart tdm-trinity' to get the X-Login(graphically)
I just looked around a bit in /etc/init/tdm-trinity.conf and it seems alright.
So I'm in a state of confusion. What am i doing wrong
Greetings Werner Bast
How did you 'switch' to R14 ? There is a thread on the TDE users
list:
:Most simple way to upgrade Trinity" discussing how to upgrade : TDE.
Since the upgrade path has not been , at least, documented yet, feedback is welcome on what you did, sources.list, commands or ?.
To fix a possible broken install I would make sure I did not have any packages with 'KDE' in the name since R14 has renamed everthing? to TDE Purge leftover KDE-* packages
I just changed the lines in sources.list. and updated. After that i had to manually start tdm. Then i kicked kdm-trinity*. And nothing changed (the description says its only a transitional package). I had to manually start tdm anyway.
What i also want is not only the solution, but to know where the problem is.
Yours Werner
Is there a 'tdm-trinity' script in '/etc/init.d' ?
There is a link in /etc/init.d: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 Mai 21 08:17 /etc/init.d/tdm-trinity -> /lib/init/upstart-job ubuntu uses upstart and the tdm-trinity.conf in /etc/init looks ok.
cat /etc/init/tdm-trinity.conf:
<code> # tdm-trinity - TDE Display Manager # # The display manager service manages the X servers running on the # system, providing login and auto-login services
description "TDE Display Manager" author "Richard Johnson and Timothy Pearson"
start on ((filesystem and runlevel [!06] and started dbus and stopped udevtrigger and (drm-device-added card0 PRIMARY_DEVICE_FOR_DISPLAY=1 or stopped udev-fallback-graphics)) or runlevel PREVLEVEL=S)
stop on runlevel [016]
emits login-session-start emits desktop-session-start emits desktop-shutdown
script if [ -n "$UPSTART_EVENTS" ] then [ ! -f /etc/X11/default-display-manager -o "$(cat /etc/X11 /default-display-manager 2>/dev/null)" = "/opt/trinity/bin/tdm" ] || { stop; exit 0; }
# Since we have no plymouth integration to take over the VT we simply # quit plymouth all the time. Note that sleeping appears necessary # as the VT freeing is somewhat delayed and TDM would otherwise go # to configured KVT+1 (if plymouth was using it). $(plymouth --quit && plymouth --wait && sleep 1) || : if [ "$RUNLEVEL" = S -o "$RUNLEVEL" = 1 ] then # Single-user mode exit 0 fi fi
if [ -r /etc/default/locale ]; then . /etc/default/locale export LANG LANGUAGE elif [ -r /etc/environment ]; then . /etc/environment export LANG LANGUAGE fi
TDEDIRS=/opt/trinity/ PATH=/opt/trinity/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin
initctl emit starting-dm DM=tdm-trinity
exec /opt/trinity/bin/tdm
end script
post-stop script if [ "$UPSTART_STOP_EVENTS" = runlevel ]; then initctl emit desktop-shutdown fi end script </code>
cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager:
<code> /opt/trinity/bin/tdm </code>
On Saturday 24 May 2014 06:55:08 you wrote:
Am 24.05.2014 10:39, schrieb Greg Madden:
On Friday 23 May 2014 19:40:36 you wrote:
Am 24.05.2014 02:21, schrieb Greg Madden:
On Friday 23 May 2014 15:05:11 you wrote:
hi all,
Like the subject said i've got problems with tdm. Its just the other branch of the bug Nr 2057. I recently switched from 3.5.13.2 on precise to the nightly builds (R14.0.0 i guess).
And ended up with both kdm-trinity and tdm-trinity. On the way to switch i was getting asked whitch DisplayManager and i choose tdm-trinity. i reboot and ended in the non-X Prompt on tty1. The confusing part is that the command (after login) initctl list shows the service 'tdm-trinity start/running, process 2838'. So i have to 'initctl restart tdm-trinity' to get the X-Login(graphically)
I just looked around a bit in /etc/init/tdm-trinity.conf and it seems alright.
So I'm in a state of confusion. What am i doing wrong
Greetings Werner Bast
How did you 'switch' to R14 ? There is a thread on the TDE users
list:
:Most simple way to upgrade Trinity" discussing how to upgrade : TDE.
Since the upgrade path has not been , at least, documented yet, feedback is welcome on what you did, sources.list, commands or ?.
To fix a possible broken install I would make sure I did not have any packages with 'KDE' in the name since R14 has renamed everthing? to TDE Purge leftover KDE-* packages
I just changed the lines in sources.list. and updated. After that i had to manually start tdm. Then i kicked kdm-trinity*. And nothing changed (the description says its only a transitional package). I had to manually start tdm anyway.
What i also want is not only the solution, but to know where the problem is.
Yours Werner
Is there a 'tdm-trinity' script in '/etc/init.d' ?
There is a link in /etc/init.d: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 Mai 21 08:17 /etc/init.d/tdm-trinity -> /lib/init/upstart-job ubuntu uses upstart and the tdm-trinity.conf in /etc/init looks ok.
cat /etc/init/tdm-trinity.conf:
<code> # tdm-trinity - TDE Display Manager # # The display manager service manages the X servers running on the # system, providing login and auto-login services
snipped
Not familiar with Ubuntu, I use Debian.
that said I did a test, needed to anyway to documentt a safe upgrade for my workstaions..eventually.
System, Debian Squeeze, TDE 3.5.13.2. Changed sources list to nightly builds (TDE R14).
apt-get upgrade: only installs a few packages, most are held back. aptitude upgrade: removes one package, installs NEW packages, and upgrades packages.
these were simulated runs, will do more testing later. what this indicates to me is that depending on how you upgraded your system, you did not say..updating a Ubuntu system has no meaning to me, there could be issues with a complete install, ie held packages.
Am 24.05.2014 20:23, schrieb Greg Madden:
On Saturday 24 May 2014 06:55:08 you wrote:
Am 24.05.2014 10:39, schrieb Greg Madden:
On Friday 23 May 2014 19:40:36 you wrote:
Am 24.05.2014 02:21, schrieb Greg Madden:
On Friday 23 May 2014 15:05:11 you wrote:
hi all,
Like the subject said i've got problems with tdm. Its just the other branch of the bug Nr 2057. I recently switched from 3.5.13.2 on precise to the nightly builds (R14.0.0 i guess).
And ended up with both kdm-trinity and tdm-trinity. On the way to switch i was getting asked whitch DisplayManager and i choose tdm-trinity. i reboot and ended in the non-X Prompt on tty1. The confusing part is that the command (after login) initctl list shows the service 'tdm-trinity start/running, process 2838'. So i have to 'initctl restart tdm-trinity' to get the X-Login(graphically)
I just looked around a bit in /etc/init/tdm-trinity.conf and it seems alright.
So I'm in a state of confusion. What am i doing wrong
Greetings Werner Bast
How did you 'switch' to R14 ? There is a thread on the TDE users
list:
:Most simple way to upgrade Trinity" discussing how to upgrade : TDE.
Since the upgrade path has not been , at least, documented yet, feedback is welcome on what you did, sources.list, commands or ?.
To fix a possible broken install I would make sure I did not have any packages with 'KDE' in the name since R14 has renamed everthing? to TDE Purge leftover KDE-* packages
I just changed the lines in sources.list. and updated. After that i had to manually start tdm. Then i kicked kdm-trinity*. And nothing changed (the description says its only a transitional package). I had to manually start tdm anyway.
What i also want is not only the solution, but to know where the problem is.
Yours Werner
Is there a 'tdm-trinity' script in '/etc/init.d' ?
There is a link in /etc/init.d: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 Mai 21 08:17 /etc/init.d/tdm-trinity -> /lib/init/upstart-job ubuntu uses upstart and the tdm-trinity.conf in /etc/init looks ok.
cat /etc/init/tdm-trinity.conf:
<code> # tdm-trinity - TDE Display Manager # # The display manager service manages the X servers running on the # system, providing login and auto-login services
snipped
Not familiar with Ubuntu, I use Debian.
that said I did a test, needed to anyway to documentt a safe upgrade for my workstaions..eventually.
System, Debian Squeeze, TDE 3.5.13.2. Changed sources list to nightly builds (TDE R14).
apt-get upgrade: only installs a few packages, most are held back. aptitude upgrade: removes one package, installs NEW packages, and upgrades packages.
these were simulated runs, will do more testing later. what this indicates to me is that depending on how you upgraded your system, you did not say..updating a Ubuntu system has no meaning to me, there could be issues with a complete install, ie held packages.
Sorry, didn't make it clear. I used the ubuntu 'Update Manager' (GUI).
so 1. change line in /etc/apt/sources.list 2. upgrade with GUI in X. remarks on 2.: it's probably safer and more reliable to use apt-get, but i can and will live with the outcome of the GUI just to see what does work and what does not. For upgrading i always use the Update Manager and for installation and removing packages i use synaptic, which works for me by now.
Back to the tdm-issue. Puzzeled by the fact that the first call to upstart with tdm-trinity (should do automatic) doesn't succed and it's neccesary to start it manually, i came to the believe it could be a race-condition. So i add the following line:
'echo "UPSTART_EVENTS => $UPSTART_EVENTS" > /root/tdm_init.log'
just to see whats inside the UPSTART_EVENTS-arg. The result was it is running directly without do something manually. I added that line after the if-part:
if [ -n "$UPSTART_EVENTS" ] ... fi
cat /root/tdm_init.log gives: UPSTART_EVENTS => filesystem runlevel started stopped stopped
To make the upgrade more reliable i think this should be investigated.
just my 2 cents Werner
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Werner Bast