Not bad news -- an opportunity for improvement!
Let's pass the hat again between this list and the trinity-user list and
get this covered. I'll chip in.
-- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
As of right now we've raised $200 to cover the replacement chiller. We're slowly getting there, any other volunteers? :-)
Tim
---- Timothy Pearson kb9vqf@pearsoncomputing.net wrote:
Not bad news -- an opportunity for improvement!
Let's pass the hat again between this list and the trinity-user list and
get this covered. I'll chip in.
-- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
As of right now we've raised $200 to cover the replacement chiller. We're slowly getting there, any other volunteers? :-)
Tim
Put me down for a Franklin, so now we are up to 3. Let me know if your address has changed from last time. I'll get home Monday and send it along.
I can't afford it, and I know a majority are probably in the same boat, but I'm going to do it because TDE is that important of a project and well worth it (or why are we here?). I hate when I get asked for money and I hate having to ask for money, but I'm old enough to know that projects cannot survive unless they have enough funding to at least keep the hardware running and the lights turned on. So I'll break with my belief of never asking, and just ask everyone, "dig deep and scrape together what you can and send it to Tim." (good, now I feel like a beggar, but it's worth it :-)
Also, be creative and think of ways we can generate cash support for the project. Samba has done T-Shirts and Coffee Mugs forever (I still have mine), a good design and go a long way to selling itself, and with point-of-sale ordering, there is no risk in having to order X amount in hope of selling X in the future, just have them made as they are ordered. (there are probably a handful of things we can do that way)
I welcome all other ideas as well, somebody has to be good at something that can be applied in this regard.
-- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
Also, be creative and think of ways we can generate cash support for the project. Samba has done T-Shirts and Coffee Mugs forever (I still have mine), a good design and go a long way to selling itself, and with point-of-sale ordering, there is no risk in having to order X amount in hope of selling X in the future, just have them made as they are ordered. (there are probably a handful of things we can do that way)
This is not a bad idea at all, if it is feasable :-)
Tim, I am no expert in this, but what about crowd funding (for example Kickstarter or similar)? Have you thought about it?
Cheers Michele
---- Michele Calgaro michele.calgaro@yahoo.it wrote:
Also, be creative and think of ways we can generate cash support for the project. Samba has done T-Shirts and Coffee Mugs forever (I still have mine), a good design and go a long way to selling itself, and with point-of-sale ordering, there is no risk in having to order X amount in hope of selling X in the future, just have them made as they are ordered. (there are probably a handful of things we can do that way)
This is not a bad idea at all, if it is feasable :-)
Tim, I am no expert in this, but what about crowd funding (for example Kickstarter or similar)? Have you thought about it?
Cheers Michele
Exactly! What we need is a bigger crowd! Also, are there any open-source development type grants that could be applied for or utilized in some way? Lets keep the ideas going! -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
Exactly! What we need is a bigger crowd!
Actually what we really need is a PR person to better "advertize" TDE. Any PR expert in the list? Or do you know any who would be willing to contribute?
Michele
I heartily second this! I have not been historically good at PR for TDE, usually being neck-deep in some obscure bug report or enhancement during my TDE "working hours".
Also, regarding the coffee mugs/T-shirts, this is a good idea. We had discussed something similar but I think I managed to forget all about it before investigating further (probably while fixing one of the more difficult bug reports ;-)). It looks like there is at least one company that will produce them on-demand; any thoughts on what kind of profit margin on such an intrinsically inexpensive item would be tolerable to most of my fellow geeks?
I would suggest adding in this store with our Web site redesign, as users will probably be clicking around already to discover where everything went. I could use some ideas as to what to call it to encourage clicks from random users. ;-) I could also use some ideas on what to put on the items besides our logo and project name (i.e. a slogan or similar).
Thanks, and thank you again to all who donated! We are now at $350 towards the replacement chiller (~ 23% achieved of my lower goal).
Tim
Exactly! What we need is a bigger crowd!
Actually what we really need is a PR person to better "advertize" TDE. Any PR expert in the list? Or do you know any who would be willing to contribute?
Michele
I heartily second this! I have not been historically good at PR for TDE, usually being neck-deep in some obscure bug report or enhancement during my TDE "working hours".
Also, regarding the coffee mugs/T-shirts, this is a good idea. We had discussed something similar but I think I managed to forget all about it before investigating further (probably while fixing one of the more difficult bug reports ;-)). It looks like there is at least one company that will produce them on-demand; any thoughts on what kind of profit margin on such an intrinsically inexpensive item would be tolerable to most of my fellow geeks?
I would suggest adding in this store with our Web site redesign, as users will probably be clicking around already to discover where everything went. I could use some ideas as to what to call it to encourage clicks from random users. ;-) I could also use some ideas on what to put on the items besides our logo and project name (i.e. a slogan or similar).
Thanks, and thank you again to all who donated! We are now at $350 towards the replacement chiller (~ 23% achieved of my lower goal).
Tim
Oh, and speaking of PR, would anyone on this list be able to better formulate a plea for financial help for distribution to the users list? I will put something together if not, but I thought I'd ask if there are any PR wizards willing to take a crack at it first.
Thanks!
Tim
Exactly! What we need is a bigger crowd!
Actually what we really need is a PR person to better "advertize" TDE. Any PR expert in the list? Or do you know any who would be willing to contribute?
Michele
I heartily second this! I have not been historically good at PR for TDE, usually being neck-deep in some obscure bug report or enhancement during my TDE "working hours".
Also, regarding the coffee mugs/T-shirts, this is a good idea. We had discussed something similar but I think I managed to forget all about it before investigating further (probably while fixing one of the more difficult bug reports ;-)). It looks like there is at least one company that will produce them on-demand; any thoughts on what kind of profit margin on such an intrinsically inexpensive item would be tolerable to most of my fellow geeks?
I would suggest adding in this store with our Web site redesign, as users will probably be clicking around already to discover where everything went. I could use some ideas as to what to call it to encourage clicks from random users. ;-) I could also use some ideas on what to put on the items besides our logo and project name (i.e. a slogan or similar).
Thanks, and thank you again to all who donated! We are now at $350 towards the replacement chiller (~ 23% achieved of my lower goal).
Tim
Oh, and speaking of PR, would anyone on this list be able to better formulate a plea for financial help for distribution to the users list? I will put something together if not, but I thought I'd ask if there are any PR wizards willing to take a crack at it first.
Thanks!
Tim
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Tim
GSoC in the future? On Mar 12, 2014 1:45 AM, "David C. Rankin" drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com wrote:
---- Michele Calgaro michele.calgaro@yahoo.it wrote:
Also, be creative and think of ways we can generate cash support for
the project. Samba has done T-Shirts and Coffee
Mugs forever (I still have mine), a good design and go a long way to
selling itself, and with point-of-sale ordering, there
is no risk in having to order X amount in hope of selling X in the
future, just have them made as they are ordered. (there
are probably a handful of things we can do that way)
This is not a bad idea at all, if it is feasable :-)
Tim, I am no expert in this, but what about crowd funding (for example
Kickstarter or similar)? Have you thought about it?
Cheers Michele
Exactly! What we need is a bigger crowd! Also, are there any open-source development type grants that could be applied for or utilized in some way? Lets keep the ideas going! -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
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Tim,
I work in industrial automation field and I know how a little bit of equipment can save electronics againts power surge and storms. Can you please tell me what is the power supply of this equipment? By that, I mean the voltage and the current or wattage. A storm can break the control part of the electronic, but not the motors, which is what is important in a chiller. There is probably a simple thing to do to put it back in working state, if you can provide a picture or two (or 3) of the control part of the equipment.
-Alexandre
Tim,
I work in industrial automation field and I know how a little bit of equipment can save electronics againts power surge and storms. Can you please tell me what is the power supply of this equipment? By that, I mean the voltage and the current or wattage. A storm can break the control part of the electronic, but not the motors, which is what is important in a chiller. There is probably a simple thing to do to put it back in working state, if you can provide a picture or two (or 3) of the control part of the equipment.
-Alexandre
Hi Alexandre,
Thank you for the offer! I am an electrical engineer by training, and as far as I can tell the electronics did indeed burn out. However, I am pretty sure the compressor rotor locked first and this is what caused the burnout.
As mentioned in the Email I just sent, we reached the target for replacement anyway so this is a moot point. :-) The new unit is far more energy efficient than the old one, which will help to keep TDE running far into the future even with syrocketing energy bills.
Tim
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