6 Mar
2012
6 Mar
'12
2:44 a.m.
Anybody with experience running a fund raising drive?
I'd like us to raise $500 --- or more so Tim can update server hardware.
50 people x $10 and we're done.
I'll put up $50.
Darrell
6 Mar
6 Mar
2:49 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Raising funds for TDE
On 5 March 2012 21:44, Darrell Anderson <humanreadable(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
Anybody with experience running a fund raising drive?
I'd like us to raise $500 --- or more so Tim can update server hardware.
50 people x $10 and we're done.
I'll put up $50.
Darrell
Time to cash the piggybank ;) I'm also willing to put down some money.
we also should tap our great users, they are an invaluable resource heh. :-)
Calvin
3:06 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Raising funds for TDE
On 03/05/2012 08:44 PM, Darrell Anderson wrote:
Anybody with experience running a fund raising drive?
I'd like us to raise $500 --- or more so Tim can update server hardware.
50 people x $10 and we're done.
I'll put up $50.
Darrell
Yes -- The first thing you have to do is tell people where to send the $$ :)
I don't know that you will be able to do much better than posting to this list
and the trinity user list and then have those who read tell their friends and
unix enthusiasts about it.
Best way to do it would be to provide the who to make checks out to unless you
want to go though the trouble of setting up some type of paypall/cc handling
account.
Whatever you do - don't by Seagate. I've had 40% of drives go bad w/in 1 year
for the past 4 years... :)
I'll chip in as well
--
David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
3:10 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Raising funds for TDE
On 5 March 2012 22:06, David C. Rankin <drankinatty(a)suddenlinkmail.com> wrote:
On 03/05/2012 08:44 PM, Darrell Anderson wrote:
paypal is really easy to use without having an account. Only Tim needs
one. Everyone can now pay via credit/debit without an account. I say
that is the best way
https://www.paypal.com/uk/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=xpt/cps/general/OptionalAccoun…
Anybody with experience running a fund raising
drive?
I'd like us to raise $500 --- or more so Tim can update server hardware.
50 people x $10 and we're done.
I'll put up $50.
Darrell
Yes -- The first thing you have to do is tell people where to send the $$ :)
I don't know that you will be able to do much better than posting to this list
and the trinity user list and then have those who read tell their friends and
unix enthusiasts about it.
Best way to do it would be to provide the who to make checks out to unless you
want to go though the trouble of setting up some type of paypall/cc handling
account.
Whatever you do - don't by Seagate. I've had 40% of drives go bad w/in 1 year
for the past 4 years... :)
I'll chip in as well
--
David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
3:31 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Raising funds for TDE
On 03/05/2012 09:10 PM, Calvin Morrison wrote:
paypal is really easy to use without having an
account. Only Tim needs
one. Everyone can now pay via credit/debit without an account. I say
that is the best way
https://www.paypal.com/uk/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=xpt/cps/general/OptionalAccoun…
Think about long term fund-raising: I still have my long-sleeve T-shirt (good
quality) that reads: "SAMBA Opening Windows to a Wider World" from the 2.0.7
days.
A black long sleeve t-shirt with a white TDE logo (start menu style) might do
OK. We all drink coffee, etc..
Also, facebook / whatever the latest marketing link is can also help.
From a banking standpoint, if you want to open an account in a trade name, you
will need a separate business entity in order to comply with bank regs. (i.e.
Trinity Desktop, LLC) Otherwise you can simply use your name and a separate
designation. (i.e. Timothy Pearson - TDE operating account)
If you do want a separate entity, use the LLC. Costs next to nothing, provides
same protection and benefit as corp., with passthrough tax advantage of a
schedule C sole-proprietorship, with no formal recording requirement. State
filing fees are generally about $350.
--
David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
3:35 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Raising funds for TDE
On 03/05/2012 09:10 PM, Calvin Morrison wrote:
Good ideas! Donations + advertising for the project via products sounds
like a win-win to me...
I think we need a good, catchy slogan, and some professional quality
artwork. Perhaps it would be a good idea to have the mascot problem
ironed out as well. Ideas anyone?
Tim
paypal is really easy to use without having an
account. Only Tim needs
one. Everyone can now pay via credit/debit without an account. I say
that is the best way
https://www.paypal.com/uk/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=xpt/cps/general/OptionalAccoun…
Think about long term fund-raising: I still have my long-sleeve T-shirt
(good
quality) that reads: "SAMBA Opening Windows to a Wider World" from the
2.0.7 days.
A black long sleeve t-shirt with a white TDE logo (start menu style) might
do
OK. We all drink coffee, etc..
Also, facebook / whatever the latest marketing link is can also help.
From a banking standpoint, if you want to open an account in a trade name,
you
will need a separate business entity in order to comply with bank regs.
(i.e.
Trinity Desktop, LLC) Otherwise you can simply use your name and a
separate
designation. (i.e. Timothy Pearson - TDE operating account)
If you do want a separate entity, use the LLC. Costs next to nothing,
provides
same protection and benefit as corp., with passthrough tax advantage of a
schedule C sole-proprietorship, with no formal recording requirement.
State
filing fees are generally about $350.
--
David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
4:01 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Raising funds for TDE
On 03/05/2012 09:35 PM, Timothy Pearson wrote:
Good ideas! Donations + advertising for the project
via products sounds
like a win-win to me...
I think we need a good, catchy slogan, and some professional quality
artwork. Perhaps it would be a good idea to have the mascot problem
ironed out as well. Ideas anyone?
Tim
Let's get a list of ideas, etc.. and then narrow them down. I'll think about it
while my wife finishes the overkill battle on Ratchet & Clank a Crack in Time :)
--
David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
4:37 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Raising funds for TDE
On 5 March 2012 23:01, David C. Rankin <drankinatty(a)suddenlinkmail.com> wrote:
On 03/05/2012 09:35 PM, Timothy Pearson wrote:
offtopic buy isn't this one of the greatest PS games on the planet? oh
gosh I've played through the series many a time.
What about Coffee Mugs? it's easier than t-shirts (sizes, types,
custom imprints, a whole mess). We could ask for a minimum X dollars
for a mug, and allow users to bump it higher. plus most people rely on
a trusty coffee mug at work, making it rather useful.
What do you guys think?
Calvin
Good ideas! Donations + advertising for the
project via products sounds
like a win-win to me...
I think we need a good, catchy slogan, and some professional quality
artwork. Perhaps it would be a good idea to have the mascot problem
ironed out as well. Ideas anyone?
Tim
Let's get a list of ideas, etc.. and then narrow them down. I'll think about it
while my wife finishes the overkill battle on Ratchet & Clank a Crack in Time :)
--
David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
4:48 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Raising funds for TDE
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Calvin Morrison <mutantturkey(a)gmail.com> wrote:
<snip>
What about Coffee Mugs? it's easier than t-shirts
(sizes, types,
custom imprints, a whole mess). We could ask for a minimum X dollars
for a mug, and allow users to bump it higher. plus most people rely on
a trusty coffee mug at work, making it rather useful.
What do you guys think?
I think we should do both the t-shirts and the mugs. How many types of
t-shirts are there? Regular t-shirts and polos? Heck, if I had the
money and TDE had the coffee mugs and polo shirts, I'd definitely
donate for both, that way I could walk around promoting TDE with a
flashy logo that people would be interested in, perhaps look up or ask
me about 8-)
The biggest problem with the shirts is finding a reliable and
trustworthy silk-screener, but that's what social networking, Google,
and real-life contacts are for, right? :-)
--
Kristopher Gamrat
1:34 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Raising funds for TDE
On Mon, 5 Mar 2012 23:48:55 -0500
Kristopher Gamrat <chaotickjg(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 11:37 PM, Calvin Morrison
<mutantturkey(a)gmail.com> wrote:
<snip>
There's always the option of using one of the on-line drop-shipping
item-printers--basically, companies that will print and ship the item
for you and give you a cut of the sale price. There are about a half-
dozen of them out there:
Zazzle currently offers the widest selection of things-you-can-
print-on (apparel, mugs, mouse pads, stickers, iPod cases, etc etc ad
nauseum), but their contract contains a nasty little clause with a rights-grab
for any correspondence you have with them, any posts on their forums, etc.
(it doesn't extend to designs you print with them, but I find it a bit
disturbing on principle).
Spreadshirt has a better contract, but they only do fabric goods, so no
coffee mugs.
There's also CafePress (requires a monthly fee, IIRC), Redbubble (based
in Australia, so the shipping fees to US/Canada/Europe are likely to be
high), one that does mostly organic/free-trade apparel whose name I
can't remember, and a couple that are like Spreadshirt but with contract
clauses similar to Zazzle.
I've done silkscreening on shirts before, but I'm not good enough that
I think it's a good idea to have our fundraising efforts rest on me, and
there are a bunch of logistical problems anyway--it's very difficult for
me to get supplies here, and they're expensive enough that I would
want cost remitted to me, and . . . well, you get the idea.
There's also the option of hiring a commercial screen-printer for a short
run, but they're likely to want payment up-front and have a minimum
run size of 200 items or so, which someone then has to store and arrange
to ship out.
I would say the minimum-effort option is to go with Zazzle or Spreadshirt.
What about Coffee Mugs? it's easier than
t-shirts (sizes, types,
custom imprints, a whole mess). We could ask for a minimum X dollars
for a mug, and allow users to bump it higher. plus most people rely on
a trusty coffee mug at work, making it rather useful.
What do you guys think?
I think we should do both the t-shirts and the mugs. How many types of
t-shirts are there? Regular t-shirts and polos? Heck, if I had the
money and TDE had the coffee mugs and polo shirts, I'd definitely
donate for both, that way I could walk around promoting TDE with a
flashy logo that people would be interested in, perhaps look up or ask
me about 8-)
The biggest problem with the shirts is finding a reliable and
trustworthy silk-screener, but that's what social networking, Google,
and real-life contacts are for, right? :-)
1 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Raising funds for TDE
On 03/05/2012 10:37 PM, Calvin Morrison wrote:
offtopic buy isn't this one of the greatest PS
games on the planet? oh
gosh I've played through the series many a time.
Fringe benefits of having 3 kids :) Ratchet 1 through A Crack in Time have been
played and played and played.
What about Coffee Mugs? it's easier than t-shirts
(sizes, types,
custom imprints, a whole mess). We could ask for a minimum X dollars
for a mug, and allow users to bump it higher. plus most people rely on
a trusty coffee mug at work, making it rather useful.
What do you guys think?
I say offer both. Each can be purchased on an as needed basis in small groups at
whatever the most reasonable volume/price-point is. So from a sales standpoint
all could be "pre-sold" and then ordered with a note that delivery usually
takes
2-3 weeks to allow for ordering and production. That eliminates the risk is
maintaining (or originally purchasing) inventory. The only up-front time-cost is
comparing the products of different providers to know who has the most
reasonable product from a cost/quality standpoint.
--
David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
3:33 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Raising funds for TDE
paypal is really easy to use without having an
account. Only
Tim needs one. Everyone can now pay via credit/debit without an
account. I say that is the best way
https://www.paypal.com/uk/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=xpt/cps/general/OptionalAccoun…
Almost. :(
I happen to have a pre-paid gift card sitting on my desk. I just tried using the card.
Won't fly without 1) street address, 2) city, 3) zip, and 4) phone number.
Darrell
3:13 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Raising funds for TDE
<snip>
Whatever you do - don't by Seagate. I've had
40% of drives go bad w/in 1
year
for the past 4 years... :)
Been there, wasted $$$, now I only buy one type of validated, extremely
reliable enterprise-grade disk from Hitachi. :-) Seagate and Western
Digital both have have serious Q/C problems recently with their drives,
and WD especially makes drives that will fail or function very poorly in
enterprise hardware, all in the interest of being "green". Ugh.
Tim
3:58 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Raising funds for TDE
Been there, wasted $$$, now I only buy one type of
validated, extremely
reliable enterprise-grade disk from Hitachi. :-)
Seagate and Western
Digital both have have serious Q/C problems recently with
their drives,
and WD especially makes drives that will fail or function
very poorly in
enterprise hardware, all in the interest of being
"green". Ugh.
Would you post a link to the model number you like?
Thanks! :)
Darrell
4:26 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Raising funds for TDE
Been there,
wasted $$$, now I only buy one type of
validated, extremely
reliable enterprise-grade disk from Hitachi. :-)
Seagate and Western
Digital both have have serious Q/C problems recently with
their drives,
and WD especially makes drives that will fail or function
very poorly in
enterprise hardware, all in the interest of being
"green". Ugh.
Would you post a link to the model number you like?
Thanks! :)
Darrell
6:11 a.m.
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Hitachi P/N 0F10311 (2TB 7200RPM). They are somewhat
hard to find now,
but I have never had one fail once it was in service.
The only failure I
had was a DOA drive, it failed as soon as it was plugged in,
and it may
have been dropped in shipment.
Thanks. :)
Darrell
3:15 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Raising funds for TDE
On 03/05/2012 08:44 PM, Darrell Anderson wrote:
The link on http://trinitydesktop.org/donate.php is preferred.
Tim
Anybody with experience running a fund raising
drive?
I'd like us to raise $500 --- or more so Tim can update server hardware.
50 people x $10 and we're done.
I'll put up $50.
Darrell
Yes -- The first thing you have to do is tell people where to send the $$
:) 
4:42 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Raising funds for TDE
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 6:44 AM, Darrell Anderson
<humanreadable(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
Anybody with experience running a fund raising drive?
I'd like us to raise $500 --- or more so Tim can update server hardware.
50 people x $10 and we're done.
I'll put up $50.
I'm in. $50 from me. But the link doesn't work... Seems like broken
hardware. :))
6:47 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Raising funds for TDE
On 6 March 2012 11:42, Aleksey Midenkov <midenok(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 6:44 AM, Darrell Anderson
<humanreadable(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
Some sort of "count to the goal" on the website in addition to a nice
email to our lists would be good as well.
Also I will put down $50.
Calvin
Anybody with experience running a fund raising
drive?
I'd like us to raise $500 --- or more so Tim can update server hardware.
50 people x $10 and we're done.
I'll put up $50.
I'm in. $50 from me. But the link doesn't work... Seems like broken
hardware. :))
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