Tim, Darrell,
I thought about giving tdevelop a run through working with the older examples from kdevelop, but ran into questions and a problem. Before spending the time doing this -- should I expect it to work? What about documentation for tdevelop? I found the entry in the help center, but the tdevelop pages are blank. Are the examples or references from the kdevelop docs still workable? (i.e., if you take a kdevelop tutorial and substitute the new binary names should tdevelop still build the examples?)
If that is not possible, does that mean there is really no such thing at the 'Qt3' toolkit for development purposes in TDE? What to do with tdevelop's reliance on Qt3 as a toolkit in the IDE? How far back would we have to go in the GIT tree to get to a point where tdevelop would build the examples? My guess is just before the TQT3 binary rename. Would that be a point where we would expect tdevelop IDE to be able to build older example code?
Looks like a minefield. Hopefully it is just because I don't fully understand it, but to me, it looks like the ability to have a TQt 'toolkit' in TDE for tdevelop integrated development environment purposes wont work with the current code. Am I thinking about this right?
Tim, Darrell,
I thought about giving tdevelop a run through working with the older examples from kdevelop, but ran into questions and a problem. Before spending the time doing this -- should I expect it to work? What about documentation for tdevelop? I found the entry in the help center, but the tdevelop pages are blank. Are the examples or references from the kdevelop docs still workable? (i.e., if you take a kdevelop tutorial and substitute the new binary names should tdevelop still build the examples?)
I would hope so! We have not changed anything in a backwards-incompatible fashion other than class and executable names.
Of course tdevelop's built-in examples (tarballs in tdevelop GIT IIRC) should be updated with the latest admin/ and cmake/ directories before anything will build at all. This update process sounds like something that should be added to the TDE pre-release checklist.
Tim
I thought about giving tdevelop a run through working with the older examples from kdevelop, but ran into questions and a problem. Before spending the time doing this -- should I expect it to work? What about documentation for tdevelop? I found the entry in the help center, but the tdevelop pages are blank. Are the examples or references from the kdevelop docs still workable? (i.e., if you take a kdevelop tutorial and substitute the new binary names should tdevelop still build the examples?)
If that is not possible, does that mean there is really no such thing at the 'Qt3' toolkit for development purposes in TDE? What to do with tdevelop's reliance on Qt3 as a toolkit in the IDE? How far back would we have to go in the GIT tree to get to a point where tdevelop would build the examples? My guess is just before the TQT3 binary rename. Would that be a point where we would expect tdevelop IDE to be able to build older example code?
Looks like a minefield. Hopefully it is just because I don't fully understand it, but to me, it looks like the ability to have a TQt 'toolkit' in TDE for tdevelop integrated development environment purposes wont work with the current code. Am I thinking about this right?
Doesn't look like a minefield to me. Just messy. :-)
I hope everything still works because after R14.0.0 is released I want to learn more about using those tools.
Is anybody in this project using TDevelop?
I checked my 3.5.10 setup and the help handbook is empty there too. Seems then that compiling the help files has been broken for a while. Looking at the sources reveals a significant number of docbook files --- we just need to compile them (and review them :-)).
I notice there is no CMakeLists.txt file in the tdevelop/doc directory, which partially explains why the files are not compiled.
Darrell
I thought about giving tdevelop a run through working with the older examples from kdevelop, but ran into questions and a problem. Before spending the time doing this -- should I expect it to work? What about documentation for tdevelop? I found the entry in the help center, but the tdevelop pages are blank. Are the examples or references from the kdevelop docs still workable? (i.e., if you take a kdevelop tutorial and substitute the new binary names should tdevelop still build the examples?)
David,
I created a patch to create tdevelop help files. Looks like the patch works, but I'd appreciate confirmation.
http://humanreadable.nfshost.com/trinity/patches/tdevelop-compile-help.diff
At the moment the handbook opens only directly:
khelpcenter help:/tdevelop
The handbook remains empty when opened through the help center table of contents. I'm still looking into that.
Darrell
I thought about giving tdevelop a run through working with the older examples from kdevelop, but ran into questions and a problem. Before spending the time doing this -- should I expect it to work? What about documentation for tdevelop? I found the entry in the help center, but the tdevelop pages are blank. Are the examples or references from the kdevelop docs still workable? (i.e., if you take a kdevelop tutorial and substitute the new binary names should tdevelop still build the examples?)
I created a patch to create tdevelop help files. Looks like the patch works, but I'd appreciate confirmation.
http://humanreadable.nfshost.com/trinity/patches/tdevelop-compile-help.diff
At the moment the handbook opens only directly:
khelpcenter help:/tdevelop
The handbook remains empty when opened through the help center table of contents. I'm still looking into that.
I pushed to GIT a large patch that fixed several tdevelop issues. Mostly kdevelop->tdevelop cleanup (tdevelop could not find plugins) and ensure the help files compile. The push includes the previously mentioned patch. Be sure to git pull and rebuild. :-)
I haven't figured out why tdevelop help is not viewable from the help center table of contents, but the manual is available from the app (F1). No applets are viewable from the table of contents either.
There probably is some more tdevelop cleanup that is required. Somebody familiar with tdevelop should go through some of the basics to ensure everything is working.
Darrell
On 07/04/2012 04:53 PM, Darrell Anderson wrote:
I thought about giving tdevelop a run through working with the older examples from kdevelop, but ran into questions and a problem. Before spending the time doing this -- should I expect it to work? What about documentation for tdevelop? I found the entry in the help center, but the tdevelop pages are blank. Are the examples or references from the kdevelop docs still workable? (i.e., if you take a kdevelop tutorial and substitute the new binary names should tdevelop still build the examples?)
I created a patch to create tdevelop help files. Looks like the patch works, but I'd appreciate confirmation.
http://humanreadable.nfshost.com/trinity/patches/tdevelop-compile-help.diff
At the moment the handbook opens only directly:
khelpcenter help:/tdevelop
The handbook remains empty when opened through the help center table of contents. I'm still looking into that.
I pushed to GIT a large patch that fixed several tdevelop issues. Mostly kdevelop->tdevelop cleanup (tdevelop could not find plugins) and ensure the help files compile. The push includes the previously mentioned patch. Be sure to git pull and rebuild. :-)
I haven't figured out why tdevelop help is not viewable from the help center table of contents, but the manual is available from the app (F1). No applets are viewable from the table of contents either.
There probably is some more tdevelop cleanup that is required. Somebody familiar with tdevelop should go through some of the basics to ensure everything is working.
Darrell
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Tim, Darrell,
Sorry, I was out for the forth. Here is what I get when I try and run tdevelop:
http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/dt/trinity/ss/tdevelopment.jpg
This was _before_ Darrell's last push, so I will rebuild and report back. Darrell, have you got tdevelop C++ IDE running on your builds?
Sorry, I was out for the forth. Here is what I get when I try and run tdevelop:
http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/dt/trinity/ss/tdevelopment.jpg
This was _before_ Darrell's last push, so I will rebuild and report back. Darrell, have you got tdevelop C++ IDE running on your builds?
Yes, I received the same dialog as you. Fixed in the latest rash of commits. :-)
I don't know how to use TDevelop, but everything opens here without incident.
Darrell
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