7 Sep
2011
7 Sep
'11
6:37 p.m.
Is there a way to compile kdebase without hal support? It's not
supported anymore in gentoo and I don't want to mess with my system
trying to install it.
7 Sep
7 Sep
6:49 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] kdebase without hal?
On Sep 7, 2011, at 14:37, L0ner sh4dou <sh4dou(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Is there a way to compile kdebase without hal support?
It's not
supported anymore in gentoo and I don't want to mess with my system
trying to install it.
IIRC -DWITH_HAL=OFF
check CMakeLists.txt or something.
--
Off the top of my head comes these responses. Grain of salt needed.
Thank Apple for the top posting.
later, Robert Xu
6:53 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] kdebase without hal?
2011/9/7 Robert Xu <robxu9(a)gmail.com>om>:
On Sep 7, 2011, at 14:37, L0ner sh4dou
<sh4dou(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Already tried that. No success. And in the CMakeLists.txt WITH_HAL is
set to OFF. It throws at me this:
-- checking for one of the modules 'hal'
CMake Error at cmake/modules/TDEMacros.cmake:20 (message):
#################################################
hal is required, but was not found on your system
#################################################
Call Stack (most recent call first):
ConfigureChecks.cmake:42 (tde_message_fatal)
CMakeLists.txt:125 (include)
Is there a way to compile kdebase without hal
support? It's not
supported anymore in gentoo and I don't want to mess with my system
trying to install it.
IIRC -DWITH_HAL=OFF
check CMakeLists.txt or something.
--
Off the top of my head comes these responses. Grain of salt needed.
Thank Apple for the top posting.
later, Robert Xu 
7:06 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] kdebase without hal?
Dne st 7. září 2011 L0ner sh4dou napsal(a):
Already tried that. No success. And in the CMakeLists.txt WITH_HAL is
set to OFF. It throws at me this:
-- checking for one of the modules 'hal'
CMake Error at cmake/modules/TDEMacros.cmake:20 (message):
#################################################
hal is required, but was not found on your system
#################################################
Call Stack (most recent call first):
ConfigureChecks.cmake:42 (tde_message_fatal)
CMakeLists.txt:125 (include)
HAL is meanwhile required dependency. See roadmap:
http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Developers/RoadMap
Slavek
--
7:18 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] kdebase without hal?
2011/9/7 Slávek Banko <slavek.banko(a)axis.cz>cz>:
Dne st 7. září 2011 L0ner sh4dou napsal(a):
So, no trinity for me on Gentoo until hal dependency has been removed.
Maybe I will try to install hal later.
Already tried that. No success. And in the CMakeLists.txt WITH_HAL is
set to OFF. It throws at me this:
-- checking for one of the modules 'hal'
CMake Error at cmake/modules/TDEMacros.cmake:20 (message):
#################################################
hal is required, but was not found on your system
#################################################
Call Stack (most recent call first):
ConfigureChecks.cmake:42 (tde_message_fatal)
CMakeLists.txt:125 (include)
HAL is meanwhile required dependency. See roadmap:
http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Developers/RoadMap
Slavek
--
7:34 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] kdebase without hal?
Le Wed, 7 Sep 2011 21:06:53 +0200,
Slávek Banko <slavek.banko(a)axis.cz> a écrit :
Dne st 7. září 2011 L0ner sh4dou napsal(a):
KDE3 hadn't HAL
as a mandatory dependency, at least for KDE 3.5.4 which
was part of the HAL-less (and 2.4 kernel) Slackware 11.0. Was it the
CMake conversion which turned HAL into a mandatory dependency ?
Already tried that. No success. And in the CMakeLists.txt WITH_HAL
is set to OFF. It throws at me this:
-- checking for one of the modules 'hal'
CMake Error at cmake/modules/TDEMacros.cmake:20 (message):
#################################################
hal is required, but was not found on your system
#################################################
Call Stack (most recent call first):
ConfigureChecks.cmake:42 (tde_message_fatal)
CMakeLists.txt:125 (include)
HAL is meanwhile required dependency. See roadmap:
http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Developers/RoadMap
Slavek
7:38 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] kdebase without hal?
Le Wed, 7 Sep 2011 21:06:53 +0200,
Slávek Banko <slavek.banko(a)axis.cz> a écrit :
As far as I can tell, yes. ksmserver relies on HAL at the moment, and the
appropriate #ifdef logic has not yet been added to the code to disable
HAL.
HAL is simply a small background process that should not affect anything
else on your system. Why doesn't it work on Gentoo?
Tim
Dne st 7. záÅà 2011 L0ner sh4dou napsal(a):
KDE3 hadn't HAL
as a mandatory dependency, at least for KDE 3.5.4 which
was part of the HAL-less (and 2.4 kernel) Slackware 11.0. Was it the
CMake conversion which turned HAL into a mandatory dependency ?
Already tried that. No success. And in the CMakeLists.txt WITH_HAL
is set to OFF. It throws at me this:
-- checking for one of the modules 'hal'
CMake Error at cmake/modules/TDEMacros.cmake:20 (message):
#################################################
hal is required, but was not found on your system
#################################################
Call Stack (most recent call first):
ConfigureChecks.cmake:42 (tde_message_fatal)
CMakeLists.txt:125 (include)
HAL is meanwhile required dependency. See roadmap:
http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Developers/RoadMap 
7:44 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] kdebase without hal?
On Wednesday 07 September 2011 22:38:07 Timothy Pearson wrote:
[...]
As far as I can tell, yes. ksmserver relies on HAL at
the moment, and the
appropriate #ifdef logic has not yet been added to the code to disable
HAL.
HAL is simply a small background process that should not affect anything
else on your system. Why doesn't it work on Gentoo?
On Gentoo HAL cannot be installed with newer versions of udev.
Tim
--
Serghei
8 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] kdebase without hal?
2011/9/7 Serghei Amelian <serghei(a)thel.ro>ro>:
On Wednesday 07 September 2011 22:38:07 Timothy
Pearson wrote:
[...]
Yep. It's masked and I can imagine it will be hell getting it
working... and I'm not really up to reinstalling my gentoo if I mess
badly trying to install hal.
As far as I can tell, yes. ksmserver relies on
HAL at the moment, and the
appropriate #ifdef logic has not yet been added to the code to disable
HAL.
HAL is simply a small background process that should not affect anything
else on your system. Why doesn't it work on Gentoo?
On Gentoo HAL cannot be installed with newer versions of udev.
Tim
--
Serghei
9:24 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] kdebase without hal?
2011/9/7 Serghei Amelian <serghei(a)thel.ro>ro>:
OK. I should mention that HAL's replacements (DeviceKit and its pieces)
are more limited than HAL. This impacts Trinity, as one of its design
goals is to expose as much useful information to the user as possible.
Currently we strongly recommend to use HAL when possible, as there is no
direct replacement for it under Linux at this time.
Tim
On Wednesday 07 September 2011 22:38:07 Timothy
Pearson wrote:
[...]
Yep. It's masked and I can imagine it will be hell getting it
working... and I'm not really up to reinstalling my gentoo if I mess
badly trying to install hal.
As far as I can tell, yes. ksmserver relies on
HAL at the moment, and
the
appropriate #ifdef logic has not yet been added to the code to disable
HAL.
HAL is simply a small background process that should not affect
anything
else on your system. Why doesn't it work on Gentoo?
On Gentoo HAL cannot be installed with newer versions of udev.
Tim
--
Serghei
9:36 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] kdebase without hal?
2011/9/7
Serghei Amelian <serghei(a)thel.ro>ro>:
OK. I should mention that HAL's replacements (DeviceKit and its pieces)
are more limited than HAL. This impacts Trinity, as one of its design
goals is to expose as much useful information to the user as possible.
Currently we strongly recommend to use HAL when possible, as there is no
direct replacement for it under Linux at this time.
Tim
On Wednesday 07 September 2011 22:38:07 Timothy
Pearson wrote:
[...]
Yep. It's masked and I can imagine it will be hell getting it
working... and I'm not really up to reinstalling my gentoo if I mess
badly trying to install hal.
As far as I can tell, yes. ksmserver relies on
HAL at the moment, and
the
appropriate #ifdef logic has not yet been added to the code to disable
HAL.
HAL is simply a small background process that should not affect
anything
else on your system. Why doesn't it work on Gentoo?
On Gentoo HAL cannot be installed with newer versions of udev.
Tim
--
Serghei
9:37 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] kdebase without hal?
On Thursday 08 September 2011 01:24:51 Timothy Pearson wrote:
OK. I should mention that HAL's replacements
(DeviceKit and its pieces)
are more limited than HAL. This impacts Trinity, as one of its design
goals is to expose as much useful information to the user as possible.
Currently we strongly recommend to use HAL when possible, as there is no
direct replacement for it under Linux at this time.
This can potentially bar you from inclusion of Trinity in distributions.
9:39 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] kdebase without hal?
On Thursday 08 September 2011 01:24:51 Timothy Pearson
wrote:
"Strongly recommend", not "require". ;-)
See my message a couple of minutes ago with a possible patch to allow HAL
support to be disabled.
Believe me, if there was a stable and full featured replacement for HAL I
would migrate to it immediately. When DeviceKit is, for example, balking
at adding backlight control to the power saving module (!?!??) I get
rather concerned about the entire HAL "replacement".
Tim
OK. I should mention that HAL's replacements
(DeviceKit and its pieces)
are more limited than HAL. This impacts Trinity, as one of its design
goals is to expose as much useful information to the user as possible.
Currently we strongly recommend to use HAL when possible, as there is no
direct replacement for it under Linux at this time.
This can potentially bar you from inclusion of Trinity in distributions.
10:04 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] kdebase without hal?
2011/9/7 Timothy Pearson <kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net>et>:
Can't you get the info You need from other sources? I mean sysfs, DBUS
and so on?
On Thursday 08
September 2011 01:24:51 Timothy Pearson wrote:
"Strongly recommend", not "require". ;-)
See my message a couple of minutes ago with a possible patch to allow HAL
support to be disabled.
Believe me, if there was a stable and full featured replacement for HAL I
would migrate to it immediately. When DeviceKit is, for example, balking
at adding backlight control to the power saving module (!?!??) I get
rather concerned about the entire HAL "replacement". OK. I should mention that HAL's replacements
(DeviceKit and its pieces)
are more limited than HAL. This impacts Trinity, as one of its design
goals is to expose as much useful information to the user as possible.
Currently we strongly recommend to use HAL when possible, as there is no
direct replacement for it under Linux at this time.
This can potentially bar you from inclusion of Trinity in distributions. Can you try this patch against kdebase to see if it
enables compilation
without HAL support?
cmake configured just fine. Right now I'm compiling and it goes just fine.
10:13 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] kdebase without hal?
Can you try this patch against kdebase to see if
it enables compilation
without HAL support?
cmake configured just fine. Right now I'm compiling and it goes just fine.
10:25 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] kdebase without hal?
Can you try this patch against kdebase to see if
it enables compilation
without HAL support?
cmake configured just fine. Right now I'm compiling and it goes just
fine.
10:51 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] kdebase without hal?
2011/9/8 Timothy Pearson <kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net>et>:
Don't know if it's related, or it is something else (more probable
from looking at the errors): http://paste.pocoo.org/show/472071/
Pull the latest kdelibs and recompile/reinstall--there were updates a week
or so ago that added data structures and methods that kdebase now relies
on.
Tim
Is there something else I should rebuild/reinstall?
http://paste.pocoo.org/show/472086/
Can you try this patch against kdebase to see if
it enables compilation
without HAL support?
cmake configured just fine. Right now I'm compiling and it goes just
fine.
11:45 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] kdebase without hal?
2011/9/8 Timothy Pearson
<kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net>et>:
Pull the latest kdelibs and recompile/reinstall--there were updates a
week
or so ago that added data structures and methods that kdebase now relies
on.
Tim
Is there something else I should rebuild/reinstall?
http://paste.pocoo.org/show/472086/
Yes, Pull the latest source from out GIT repository with:
git clone http://scm.trinitydesktop.org/scm/git/tde
and rebuild/reinstall Qt3 from the sources in the main/dependencies/qt3
folder.
Tim
>Can you try this patch against kdebase to see if it enables
> compilation
>without HAL support?
cmake configured just fine. Right now I'm compiling and it goes just
fine.
Don't know if it's related, or it is something else (more probable
from looking at the errors): http://paste.pocoo.org/show/472071/
8 Sep
8 Sep
10:59 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] kdebase without hal?
2011/9/8 Timothy Pearson <kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net>et>:
Pulled, recompiled, reinstalled everything. kdebase does not compile:
http://paste.pocoo.org/show/472328/
seems like it misses hal.
2011/9/8
Timothy Pearson <kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net>et>:
Is there something else I should rebuild/reinstall?
http://paste.pocoo.org/show/472086/
Yes, Pull the latest source from out GIT repository with:
git clone http://scm.trinitydesktop.org/scm/git/tde
and rebuild/reinstall Qt3 from the sources in the main/dependencies/qt3
folder.
Tim
>
>>Can you try this patch against kdebase to see if it enables
>> compilation
> >without HAL support?
>
> cmake configured just fine. Right now I'm compiling and it goes just
> fine.
>
Don't know if it's related, or it is something else (more probable
from looking at the errors): http://paste.pocoo.org/show/472071/
Pull the latest kdelibs and recompile/reinstall--there were updates a
week
or so ago that added data structures and methods that kdebase now relies
on.
Tim
11:09 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] kdebase without hal?
On Thursday 08 September 2011 14:59:42 L0ner sh4dou wrote:
Pulled, recompiled, reinstalled everything. kdebase does not compile:
http://paste.pocoo.org/show/472328/
seems like it misses hal.
I wonder why it is so. KDE 3.5.10 builds well without hal
(although the mediamanager cannot detect the removable drives unless patched).
4:11 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] kdebase without hal?
On Thursday 08 September 2011 14:59:42 L0ner sh4dou
wrote:
Your patch is distro specific. Also, this is not KDE 3.5.10, this is TDE
3.5.13 development, and little problems like this are to be expected when
dealing with the development branch.
Tim
Pulled, recompiled, reinstalled everything. kdebase does not compile:
http://paste.pocoo.org/show/472328/
seems like it misses hal.
I wonder why it is so. KDE 3.5.10 builds well without hal
(although the mediamanager cannot detect the removable drives unless
patched).
4:31 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] kdebase without hal?
On Thursday 08 September 2011 20:11:23 Timothy Pearson wrote:
Your patch is distro specific.
Why do you think so?!!
Pulled, recompiled, reinstalled everything. kdebase
does not compile:
http://paste.pocoo.org/show/472328/
seems like it misses hal.
I wonder why it is so. KDE 3.5.10 builds well without hal
(although the mediamanager cannot detect the removable drives unless
patched). Also, this is not KDE 3.5.10, this is TDE
3.5.13 development, and little problems like this are to be expected when
dealing with the development branch.
4:58 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] kdebase without hal?
On Thursday 08 September 2011 20:11:23 Timothy Pearson
wrote:
Your patch is distro specific.
Why do you think so?!!
Can you post a link? One of the members of the development team here had
looked at it and mentioned it was distro-specific.
Tim
Pulled, recompiled, reinstalled everything. kdebase
does not compile:
http://paste.pocoo.org/show/472328/
seems like it misses hal.
I wonder why it is so. KDE 3.5.10 builds well without hal
(although the mediamanager cannot detect the removable drives unless
patched).
5:01 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] kdebase without hal?
On Thursday 08 September 2011 20:58:22 Timothy Pearson wrote:
Can you post a link? One of the members of the
development team here had
looked at it and mentioned it was distro-specific.
So you did not see the patch and claim it is distro-specific. Is having a /media folder
also distro-specific?
5:14 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] kdebase without hal?
On Thursday 08 September 2011 20:58:22 Timothy Pearson
wrote:
Where is the link? No, having a media folder is not distro specific.
If I was wrong here I apologize. I don't have time to examine each and
every patch that exists outside of this mailing list, so I do have to
trust other people to look at some of them--this is the nature of a large
project such as Trinity.
Tim
Can you post a link? One of the members of the
development team here
had
looked at it and mentioned it was distro-specific.
So you did not see the patch and claim it is distro-specific. Is having a
/media folder also distro-specific?
9 Sep
9 Sep
2:31 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] kdebase without hal?
On Thursday 08 September 2011 21:14:18 Timothy Pearson wrote:
Here is it.
So you did not
see the patch and claim it is distro-specific. Is having a
/media folder also distro-specific?
Where is the link? No, having a media folder is not distro specific.
If I was wrong here I apologize. I don't have time to examine each and
every patch that exists outside of this mailing list, so I do have to
trust other people to look at some of them--this is the nature of a large
project such as Trinity.
8 Sep
8 Sep
4:14 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] kdebase without hal?
2011/9/8 Timothy Pearson
<kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net>et>:
Pulled, recompiled, reinstalled everything. kdebase does not compile:
http://paste.pocoo.org/show/472328/
seems like it misses hal.
It sure looks like you didn't apply the entire patch I sent earlier. No
matter, I committed it to SVN last night already. :-)
Pull kdebase from SVN again and recompile. It should work; if it does not
then please post the build failure.
Thanks!
Tim
2011/9/8
Timothy Pearson <kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net>et>:
Yes, Pull the latest source from out GIT repository with:
git clone http://scm.trinitydesktop.org/scm/git/tde
and rebuild/reinstall Qt3 from the sources in the main/dependencies/qt3
folder.
Tim
>>
>>>Can you try this patch against kdebase to see if it enables
>>> compilation
>> >without HAL support?
>>
>> cmake configured just fine. Right now I'm compiling and it goes just
>> fine.
>>
>
> Don't know if it's related, or it is something else (more probable
> from looking at the errors): http://paste.pocoo.org/show/472071/
>
Pull the latest kdelibs and recompile/reinstall--there were updates a
week
or so ago that added data structures and methods that kdebase now
relies
on.
Tim
Is there something else I should rebuild/reinstall?
http://paste.pocoo.org/show/472086/
4:46 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] kdebase without hal?
2011/9/8 Timothy Pearson <kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net>et>:
Probable. Anyway I pulled kdebase from svn and compilation went just fine.
2011/9/8
Timothy Pearson <kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net>et>:
Pulled, recompiled, reinstalled everything. kdebase does not compile:
http://paste.pocoo.org/show/472328/
seems like it misses hal.
It sure looks like you didn't apply the entire patch I sent earlier. No
matter, I committed it to SVN last night already. :-)
Pull kdebase from SVN again and recompile. It should work; if it does not
then please post the build failure.
Thanks!
2011/9/8
Timothy Pearson <kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net>et>:
>>>
>>>>Can you try this patch against kdebase to see if it enables
>>>> compilation
>>> >without HAL support?
>>>
>>> cmake configured just fine. Right now I'm compiling and it goes just
>>> fine.
>>>
>>
>> Don't know if it's related, or it is something else (more probable
>> from looking at the errors): http://paste.pocoo.org/show/472071/
>>
>
> Pull the latest kdelibs and recompile/reinstall--there were updates a
> week
> or so ago that added data structures and methods that kdebase now
> relies
> on.
>
> Tim
>
Is there something else I should rebuild/reinstall?
http://paste.pocoo.org/show/472086/
Yes, Pull the latest source from out GIT repository with:
git clone http://scm.trinitydesktop.org/scm/git/tde
and rebuild/reinstall Qt3 from the sources in the main/dependencies/qt3
folder.
Tim
7 Sep
7 Sep
10:27 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] kdebase without hal?
<snip>
Can't you get the info You need from other sources? I mean sysfs, DBUS
and so on?
Yes, but it's a pain. Additionally, as those interfaces change we would
have to maintain the TDE connections to them, which would sap time and
energy away from other tasks.
I have not yet decided on a course of action, but probably nothing will be
done as far as replacing HAL until either someone sponsors the work or
does it themselves.
Tim
10:33 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] kdebase without hal?
2011/9/8 Timothy Pearson <kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net>et>:
<snip>
Well, it seems lately that every developer in linux community is
trying to make something new that actually is crap compared to what
were used previously and everyone starts using it because it's "new".
Just look at gnome3, hal and thing like that.
It seems to me that with every upgrade and new feture every OS sucks
more and more -_-
Can't you get the info You need from other sources? I mean sysfs, DBUS
and so on?
Yes, but it's a pain. Additionally, as those interfaces change we would
have to maintain the TDE connections to them, which would sap time and
energy away from other tasks.
I have not yet decided on a course of action, but probably nothing will be
done as far as replacing HAL until either someone sponsors the work or
does it themselves.
Tim
10:37 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] kdebase without hal?
On Thursday 08 September 2011 02:27:33 Timothy Pearson wrote:
I am currently writing from kdebase3 where hal has been disabled.
Only the following packages need hal as of now and I placed them in a separate
repository:
kima
knetworkmanager-kde3
kpowersave
All other stuff can be built without hal, otherwise the inclusion of KDE3 in the upcoming
openSUSE release
would be impossible.
Can't you
get the info You need from other sources? I mean sysfs, DBUS
and so on?
Yes, but it's a pain. Additionally, as those interfaces change we would
have to maintain the TDE connections to them, which would sap time and
energy away from other tasks.
I have not yet decided on a course of action, but probably nothing will be
done as far as replacing HAL until either someone sponsors the work or
does it themselves.
11:43 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] kdebase without hal?
On Thursday 08 September 2011 02:27:33 Timothy Pearson
wrote:
I am currently writing from kdebase3 where hal has been disabled.
Only the following packages need hal as of now and I placed them in a
separate repository:
kima
knetworkmanager-kde3
kpowersave
For Trinity, add kdebase and I end up with the same list, which is good. :-)
Just as a reminder, I do have specifications out for the new libraries
that Trinity should include when we do move away from HAL, in case anyone
feels inspired to work on them:
http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Developers/TUComputerAPI
http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Developers/KPowerAPI
A properly engineered base will prevent many problems down the line, and
allow Trinity applications to easily access and control the computer's
devices and power management state. Feedback on the proposed libraries is
also welcome.
Tim
Can't
you get the info You need from other sources? I mean sysfs, DBUS
and so on?
Yes, but it's a pain. Additionally, as those interfaces change we would
have to maintain the TDE connections to them, which would sap time and
energy away from other tasks.
I have not yet decided on a course of action, but probably nothing will
be
done as far as replacing HAL until either someone sponsors the work or
does it themselves.
11:51 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] kdebase without hal?
On Thursday 08 September 2011 03:43:08 Timothy Pearson wrote:
I am currently writing from kdebase3 where hal has been disabled.
Only the following packages need hal as of now and I placed them in a
separate repository:
kima
knetworkmanager-kde3
kpowersave
For Trinity, add kdebase and I end up with the same list, which is good. :-)
The most diappointing one here is the knetworkmanager client. In theory it should not
reqire hal?
and should only communicate with the NM backend.
Can't you
get the info You need from other sources? I mean sysfs, DBUS
and so on?
Yes, but it's a pain. Additionally, as those interfaces change we would
have to maintain the TDE connections to them, which would sap time and
energy away from other tasks.
I have not yet decided on a course of action, but probably nothing will
be
done as far as replacing HAL until either someone sponsors the work or
does it themselves.
8 Sep
8 Sep
10:43 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] kdebase without hal?
Le Wed, 7 Sep 2011 17:27:33 -0500,
"Timothy Pearson" <kb9vqf(a)pearsoncomputing.net> a écrit :
<snip>
Why not reuse the work of KDE developers and
use KDE4's Solid library ?
It already supports both HAL and u* backends, doesn't seem to depend on
other parts of kdelibs4 and the license is compatible.
Can't you get the info You need from other sources? I mean sysfs,
DBUS and so on?
Yes, but it's a pain. Additionally, as those interfaces change we
would have to maintain the TDE connections to them, which would sap
time and energy away from other tasks.
I have not yet decided on a course of action, but probably nothing
will be done as far as replacing HAL until either someone sponsors
the work or does it themselves.
Tim
9 Sep
9 Sep
11:50 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] kdebase without hal?
If you want old ebuilds that allow you to have a fully functional Gentoo
with HAL, I can provide them. I'm using them as I type but of course I keep
my overlay around.
Tiago
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 9:00 PM, L0ner sh4dou <sh4dou(a)gmail.com> wrote:
2011/9/7 Serghei Amelian <serghei(a)thel.ro>ro>:
Yep. It's masked and I can imagine it will be hell getting it
working... and I'm not really up to reinstalling my gentoo if I mess
badly trying to install hal.
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On Wednesday 07 September 2011 22:38:07 Timothy
Pearson wrote:
[...]
> As far as I can tell, yes. ksmserver relies on HAL at the moment, and
the
appropriate #ifdef logic has not yet been added to the code to disable
HAL.
HAL is simply a small background process that should not affect anything
else on your system. Why doesn't it work on Gentoo?
On Gentoo HAL cannot be installed with newer versions of udev.
Tim
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Serghei
7 Sep
7 Sep
9:14 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] kdebase without hal?
On Wednesday 07 September 2011 22:38:07 Timothy
Pearson wrote:
[...]
You're back! :-)
Good to know regarding Gentoo. Can you try to implement the remaining
logic in CMake for a HAL-less ksmserver?
Thanks!
Tim
As far as I can tell, yes. ksmserver relies on
HAL at the moment, and
the
appropriate #ifdef logic has not yet been added to the code to disable
HAL.
HAL is simply a small background process that should not affect anything
else on your system. Why doesn't it work on Gentoo?
On Gentoo HAL cannot be installed with newer versions of udev.
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