I tested this in fluxbox and xfce. I see no Trinity apps in the menus. Upon further reflection, although possibly we have been overzealous with using OnlyShowIn=TDE, I suspect not. We do need to use that directive for certain apps, but I don't think that is the root cause of the problem described by the blog author. I suspect the problem with other environments not seeing Trinity apps is environment variables. As just about all of us build Trinity to install to /opt/trinity, not a single environment default configuration will find Trinity apps with standard environment variables. Specifically the XDG_* variables that affect finding trinity files. I believe then the first hurdle is how to help other environments find all Trinity *.desktop files. I wonder whether we should install the menu files to /etc/xdg/menus rather than /etc/trinity/xdg/menus. A caveat: when KDE4 is concurrently installed with Trinity, the respective environment menu can become a hopeless cluttered mess. This is true in my xfce test. We have a build-time option to add "[KDE4]" to all KDE menu items, but that might affect only the Trinity menus. I'd have to run a build test to see any effects on the Xfce menu. This topic deserves further investigation. Darrell