Tim, All, After the updates to kdegraphics we have new apps that end up in "Graphics" -> "More Applications". This needs to be fixed so they are included in the Graphics Menu itself. We will want to create a sub-menu for Graphics like 'Graphics->Tools' or 'Graphics->Utilities' for the smaller helper apps. Currently the following need to move from "More Applications": KColorChooser KColorEdit KFax KIconEdit Additionally we will need to move (or copy) KPDF from "Office" so it is also included in "Graphics". (I don't know why it gets stuck under "Office", but that is wrong to have it under the main "Office" menu. Traditionally I have seen it under a submenu of "Document Viewers" or just "Viewers". Thinking out-loud, what is needed is: Graphics \- Image Viewers \- Gwenview \- KView \- KFax \- KPDF \- etc.... Office \- Document Viewers \- KWord \- KFax \- KPDF \- etc.... I hate duplicate entries, but the fact is there will be some viewers that are "Graphic" viewers only and some viewer that are "Document viewers" only, but then you will have some that overlap. Regardless, they need to be somewhere other than "More Applications" :) Here is a screenshot of the current situation: [113k] http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/dt/trinity/ss/kmenu-graphics-needs-fix.jpg -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.