21 May
2023
21 May
'23
5:57 a.m.
Can it?:
# urpmi trinity-gtk3-tqt-engine
To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be installed:
Package Version Release Arch
(medium "Core Release")
cmake 3.19.2 2.mga8 x86_64
cmake-rpm-macros 8 6.mga8 noarch
dwz 0.13 1.mga8 x86_64
fonts-srpm-macros 2.0.5 5.mga8 noarch
gettext 0.21 8.mga8 x86_64
gettext-devel 0.21 8.mga8 x86_64
go-srpm-macros 3.0.9 1.mga8 noarch
guile3.0-runtime 3.0.4 3.mga8 x86_64
intltool 0.51.0 6.mga8 noarch
lib64acl-devel 2.2.53 2.mga8 x86_64
lib64argon2-devel 20190702 3.mga8 x86_64
lib64attr-devel 2.4.48 3.mga8 x86_64
lib64audiofile-devel 0.3.6 11.mga8 x86_64
lib64babeltrace1 1.5.8 1.mga8 x86_64
lib64boost_regex1.75.0 1.75.0 1.mga8 x86_64
lib64bsd-devel 0.10.0 2.mga8 x86_64
lib64bz2-devel 1.0.8 2.mga8 x86_64
lib64cap-devel 2.46 1.mga8 x86_64
lib64datrie-devel 0.2.12 2.mga8 x86_64
lib64devmapper-devel 1.02.173 3.mga8 x86_64
lib64fam0 0.1.10 20.mga8 x86_64
lib64ffi-devel 3.3 2.mga8 x86_64
lib64fontconfig-devel 2.13.93 4.mga8 x86_64
lib64gamin-devel 0.1.10 20.mga8 x86_64
lib64gc1 8.0.4 2.mga8 x86_64
lib64gettextmisc 0.21 8.mga8 x86_64
lib64glvnd-devel 1.3.2 16.mga8 x86_64
lib64gpg-error-devel 1.41 1.mga8 x86_64
lib64graphite2-devel 1.3.14 1.mga8 x86_64
lib64guile3.0_1 3.0.4 3.mga8 x86_64
lib64harfbuzz-devel 2.7.4 1.mga8 x86_64
lib64ice-devel 1.0.10 2.mga8 x86_64
lib64idn-devel 1.36 2.mga8 x86_64
lib64ipt2 2.0.2 1.mga8 x86_64
lib64jack-devel 1.9.14 1.mga8 x86_64
lib64json-c-devel 0.15 1.mga8 x86_64
lib64jsoncpp24 1.9.4 1.mga8 x86_64
lib64mad-devel 0.15.1b 28.mga8 x86_64
lib64magic-devel 5.39 4.mga8 x86_64
lib64ncurses-devel 6.2 20201205.1.m> x86_64
lib64ogg-devel 1.3.4 2.mga8 x86_64
lib64opus-devel 1.3.1 3.mga8 x86_64
lib64pcsclite-devel 1.9.0 1.mga8 x86_64
lib64pcscspy0 1.9.0 1.mga8 x86_64
lib64pkcs11-helper-devel 1.27.0 1.mga8 x86_64
lib64png-devel 1.6.37 2.mga8 x86_64
lib64rhash0 1.4.0 1.mga8 x86_64
lib64samplerate-devel 0.1.9 4.mga8 x86_64
lib64sm-devel 1.2.3 2.mga8 x86_64
lib64source-highlight4 3.1.9 8.mga8 x86_64
lib64textstyle0 0.21 8.mga8 x86_64
lib64thai-devel 0.1.28 2.mga8 x86_64
lib64unistring-devel 0.9.10 4.mga8 x86_64
lib64vorbis-devel 1.3.7 1.mga8 x86_64
lib64xau-devel 1.0.9 2.mga8 x86_64
lib64xcb-devel 1.14 1.mga8 x86_64
lib64xcomposite-devel 0.4.5 3.mga8 x86_64
lib64xcrypt-devel 4.4.17 1.mga8 x86_64
lib64xcursor-devel 1.2.0 2.mga8 x86_64
lib64xdmcp-devel 1.1.3 2.mga8 x86_64
lib64xext-devel 1.3.4 2.mga8 x86_64
lib64xfixes-devel 5.0.3 3.mga8 x86_64
lib64xft-devel 2.3.3 2.mga8 x86_64
lib64xi-devel 1.7.10 2.mga8 x86_64
lib64xinerama-devel 1.1.4 3.mga8 x86_64
lib64xrandr-devel 1.5.2 2.mga8 x86_64
lib64xrender-devel 0.9.10 3.mga8 x86_64
lib64xt-devel 1.2.0 2.mga8 x86_64
lib64xxhash0 0.8.0 1.mga8 x86_64
libcap-utils 2.46 1.mga8 x86_64
ocaml-srpm-macros 6 2.mga8 noarch
patch 2.7.6 6.mga8 x86_64
perl-Exporter-Tiny 1.2.2 1.mga8 noarch
perl-File-Slurp 9999.320.0 1.mga8 noarch
perl-JSON 4.20.0 2.mga8 noarch
perl-List-MoreUtils 0.430.0 1.mga8 noarch
perl-List-MoreUtils-XS 0.430 1.mga8 x86_64
perl-YAML 1.300.0 2.mga8 noarch
perl-srpm-macros 1 34.mga8 noarch
rpm-mageia-setup-build 2.57 2.mga8 x86_64
rust-srpm-macros 17 1.mga8 noarch
spec-helper 0.31.23 1.mga8 noarch
x11-proto-devel 2020.1 2.mga8 noarch
(medium "Core Updates")
gcc 10.4.0 3.mga8 x86_64
gdb-headless 10.1 5.1.mga8 x86_64
glibc-devel 2.32 30.mga8 x86_64
lib64alsa2-devel 1.2.6.1 1.mga8 x86_64
lib64avahi-client-devel 0.8 6.3.mga8 x86_64
lib64avahi-common-devel 0.8 6.3.mga8 x86_64
lib64blkid-devel 2.36.2 1.mga8 x86_64
lib64cairo-devel 1.16.0 6.2.mga8 x86_64
lib64cryptsetup-devel 2.3.7 1.mga8 x86_64
lib64dbus-devel 1.13.18 3.1.mga8 x86_64
lib64fribidi-devel 1.0.10 1.1.mga8 x86_64
lib64gcrypt-devel 1.8.7 1.2.mga8 x86_64
lib64glib2.0-devel 2.66.8 1.mga8 x86_64
lib64icu-devel 68.2 1.1.mga8 x86_64
lib64jpeg-devel 2.0.8 1.mga8 x86_64
lib64lz4-devel 1.9.3 1.1.mga8 x86_64
lib64lzma-devel 5.2.5 2.1.mga8 x86_64
lib64mount-devel 2.36.2 1.mga8 x86_64
lib64nas-devel 1.9.4 11.1.mga8 x86_64
lib64openssl-devel 1.1.1t 1.mga8 x86_64
lib64pango1.0-devel 1.48.4 1.mga8 x86_64
lib64pcre-devel 8.44 1.1.mga8 x86_64
lib64pcreposix1 8.44 1.1.mga8 x86_64
lib64pixman-devel 0.40.0 1.1.mga8 x86_64
lib64turbojpeg0 2.0.8 1.mga8 x86_64
lib64udev-devel 246.16 3.mga8 x86_64
lib64uuid-devel 2.36.2 1.mga8 x86_64
lib64uv1 1.40.0 1.1.mga8 x86_64
lib64x11-devel 1.7.0 1.3.mga8 x86_64
lib64xml2-devel 2.9.10 7.7.mga8 x86_64
lib64zlib-devel 1.2.12 1.3.mga8 x86_64
lib64zstd-devel 1.4.8 1.2.mga8 x86_64
libstdc++-devel 10.4.0 3.mga8 x86_64
pcre 8.44 1.1.mga8 x86_64
systemd-devel 246.16 3.mga8 x86_64
(medium "Tainted Updates")
lib64freetype2-devel 2.10.4 2.2.mga8.tai> x86_64
(medium "trinity")
lib64art_lgpl-devel 2.3.22 14.1.0_1.mga8 x86_64
lib64avahi-tqt-devel 0.6.30 14.1.0_1.mga8 x86_64
lib64dbus-1-tqt-devel 0.9 14.1.0_1.mga8 x86_64
lib64esddsp0 0.2.41 1.mga8 x86_64
lib64tqt3-mt-devel 3.5.0 14.1.0_1.mga8 x86_64
lib64tqt4-devel 4.2.0 14.1.0_1.mga8 x86_64
libesd0-devel 0.2.41 1.mga8 x86_64
tqt3-dev-tools 3.5.0 14.1.0_1.mga8 x86_64
tqt3-dev-tools-devel 3.5.0 14.1.0_1.mga8 x86_64
trinity-arts-devel 1.5.10 14.1.0_1.mga8 x86_64
trinity-gtk3-tqt-engine 0.5 14.1.0_1.mga8 x86_64
trinity-tdelibs-devel 14.1.0 1.mga8 x86_64
(medium "trinity-noarch")
trinity-tde-cmake 14.1.0 1.mga8 noarch
341MB of additional disk space will be used.
72MB of packages will be retrieved.
Proceed with the installation of the 132 packages? (Y/n) n
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Felix Miata
21 May
21 May
7:13 p.m.
Le 21/05/2023 à 07:57, Felix Miata via tde-devels a écrit :
Can it?:
# urpmi trinity-gtk3-tqt-engine
To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be installed:
Package Version Release Arch
(medium "Core Release")
cmake 3.19.2 2.mga8 x86_64
cmake-rpm-macros 8 6.mga8 noarch
[...]
trinity-tdelibs-devel 14.1.0 1.mga8 x86_64
(medium "trinity-noarch")
trinity-tde-cmake 14.1.0 1.mga8 noarch
341MB of additional disk space will be used.
72MB of packages will be retrieved.
Proceed with the installation of the 132 packages? (Y/n) n
Hello Felix,
I think this is because this RPM package contains files ending with
'.so' and '.la' extensions.
When this happens, the rpmbuild command automatically adds dependencies
to development packages.
The proper way to avoid this is to create a separate '-devel' package
containing just these files.
What happens if you manually delete the following files:
/opt/trinity/lib64/libtqtcairo.la
/opt/trinity/lib64/libtqtcairo.so
/usr/lib64/gtk-3.0/3.0.0/theming-engines/libtdegtk.la
/usr/lib64/gtk-3.0/3.0.0/theming-engines/libtdegtk.so
Does the gtk3-tqt engine still work ?
François
8:18 p.m.
François Andriot composed on 2023-05-21 21:13 (UTC+0200):
Felix Miata a écrit :
> Can it?:
> # urpmi trinity-gtk3-tqt-engine
> To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be installed:
> Package Version Release Arch
> (medium "Core Release")
> cmake 3.19.2 2.mga8 x86_64
> cmake-rpm-macros 8 6.mga8 noarch
> [...]
> trinity-tdelibs-devel 14.1.0 1.mga8 x86_64
> (medium "trinity-noarch")
> trinity-tde-cmake 14.1.0 1.mga8 noarch
> 341MB of additional disk space will be used.
> 72MB of packages will be retrieved.
> Proceed with the installation of the 132 packages? (Y/n) n
Hello Felix,
I think this is because this RPM package contains
files ending with
'.so' and '.la' extensions.
When this happens, the rpmbuild command automatically adds dependencies
to development packages.
The proper way to avoid this is to create a separate '-devel' package
containing just these files.
What happens if you manually delete the following
files:
/opt/trinity/lib64/libtqtcairo.la
/opt/trinity/lib64/libtqtcairo.so
/usr/lib64/gtk-3.0/3.0.0/theming-engines/libtdegtk.la
/usr/lib64/gtk-3.0/3.0.0/theming-engines/libtdegtk.so
Does the gtk3-tqt engine still work ?
I didn't proceed to install the 132 packages. Instead:
# rpm -ivh --nodeps trinity-gtk3-tqt-engine-0.5-14.1.0_1.mga8.x86_64.rpm
Verifying... ################################# [100%]
Preparing... ################################# [100%]
Updating / installing...
1:trinity-gtk3-tqt-engine-2:0.5-14.################################# [100%]
#
The question is, how do I test whether it works or not? About the only widgets I
recognize as gtk3 are the insanely narrow scrollbars in e.g. Firefox or Gimp,
which, along with SeaMonkey, which I only use with it's unique modern theme that
disregards environmental themes, are the only gtk apps I'm aware of that I ever
use. They're so bloated I don't install them on test boxes. What can I use to
test?
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based on faith, not based on science.
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Felix Miata
10:57 p.m.
On Sun, 21 May 2023 16:18:21 -0400
Felix Miata via tde-devels <devels(a)trinitydesktop.org> wrote:
The question is, how do I test whether it works or
not? About the only widgets I
recognize as gtk3 are the insanely narrow scrollbars in e.g. Firefox or Gimp,
which, along with SeaMonkey, which I only use with it's unique modern theme that
disregards environmental themes, are the only gtk apps I'm aware of that I ever
use. They're so bloated I don't install them on test boxes. What can I use to
test?
GTK3 comes with several demo programs, although I can't be sure your distro
installs them. Try calling gtk3-demo or gtk3-widget-factory at the command
line.
E. Liddell
11:14 p.m.
E. Liddell via tde-devels composed on 2023-05-21 18:57 (UTC-0400):
On Sun, 21 May 2023 16:18:21 -0400 Felix Miata wrote:
> The question is, how do I test whether it works or
not? About the only widgets I
> recognize as gtk3 are the insanely narrow scrollbars in e.g. Firefox or Gimp,
> which, along with SeaMonkey, which I only use with it's unique modern theme that
> disregards environmental themes, are the only gtk apps I'm aware of that I ever
> use. They're so bloated I don't install them on test boxes. What can I use to
test?
GTK3 comes with several demo programs, although I
can't be sure your distro
installs them. Try calling gtk3-demo or gtk3-widget-factory at the command
line.
# inxi -S
System:
Host: gb970 Kernel: 6.2.12-desktop-1.mga9 arch: x86_64 bits: 64
Desktop: Trinity Distro: Mageia 9
# urpmq -y demo | grep gtk
# urpmq -y widg | grep gtk
# urpmq -y trinity | grep gtk
trinity-gtk-qt-engine
trinity-gtk-qt-engine-debuginfo
trinity-gtk3-tqt-engine
trinity-gtk3-tqt-engine-debuginfo
#
:(
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Felix Miata
22 May
22 May
2:33 a.m.
On Sun, 21 May 2023 19:14:34 -0400
Felix Miata via tde-devels <devels(a)trinitydesktop.org> wrote:
E. Liddell via tde-devels composed on 2023-05-21 18:57
(UTC-0400):
I'm not sure how your package manager works, but these are not separate packages,
they're minor binaries installed as part of the gtk+ package. Try "which
gtk3-demo"
rather than anything more elaborate.
E. Liddell
On Sun, 21 May 2023 16:18:21 -0400 Felix Miata
wrote:
> The question is, how do I test whether it
works or not? About the only widgets I
> recognize as gtk3 are the insanely narrow scrollbars in e.g. Firefox or Gimp,
> which, along with SeaMonkey, which I only use with it's unique modern theme that
> disregards environmental themes, are the only gtk apps I'm aware of that I ever
> use. They're so bloated I don't install them on test boxes. What can I use to
test?
GTK3 comes with several demo programs, although I
can't be sure your distro
installs them. Try calling gtk3-demo or gtk3-widget-factory at the command
line.
# inxi -S
System:
Host: gb970 Kernel: 6.2.12-desktop-1.mga9 arch: x86_64 bits: 64
Desktop: Trinity Distro: Mageia 9
# urpmq -y demo | grep gtk
# urpmq -y widg | grep gtk
# urpmq -y trinity | grep gtk
trinity-gtk-qt-engine
trinity-gtk-qt-engine-debuginfo
trinity-gtk3-tqt-engine
trinity-gtk3-tqt-engine-debuginfo
#
:(
5:58 a.m.
E. Liddell via tde-devels composed on 2023-05-21 22:33 (UTC-0400):
On Sun, 21 May 2023 19:14:34 -0400 Felix Miata wrote:
> E. Liddell via tde-devels composed on 2023-05-21
18:57 (UTC-0400):
>> GTK3 comes with several demo programs,
although I can't be sure your distro
>> installs them. Try calling gtk3-demo or gtk3-widget-factory at the command
>> line.
>
> # inxi -S
> System:
> Host: gb970 Kernel: 6.2.12-desktop-1.mga9 arch: x86_64 bits: 64
> Desktop: Trinity Distro: Mageia 9
> # urpmq -y demo | grep gtk
> # urpmq -y widg | grep gtk
> # urpmq -y trinity | grep gtk
> trinity-gtk-qt-engine
> trinity-gtk-qt-engine-debuginfo
> trinity-gtk3-tqt-engine
> trinity-gtk3-tqt-engine-debuginfo
> #
> :(
I'm not sure how your package manager works, but
these are not separate packages,
they're minor binaries installed as part of the gtk+ package. Try "which
gtk3-demo"
rather than anything more elaborate.
# which gtk3-demo
which: no gtk3-demo in (/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin)
# apropos demo
Moose::Cookbook::Basics::BankAccount_MethodModifiersAndSubclassing (3pm) - Demonstrates
the use of method modifiers in a subclass
Moose::Cookbook::Basics::BinaryTree_AttributeFeatures (3pm) - Demonstrates various
attribute features including lazy, predicates, weak refs, and more
Moose::Cookbook::Basics::Company_Subtypes (3pm) - Demonstrates the use of subtypes and how
to model classes related to companies, people, employees, etc.
Moose::Cookbook::Basics::HTTP_SubtypesAndCoercion (3pm) - Demonstrates subtypes and
coercion use HTTP-related classes (Request, Protocol, etc.)
Sub::Exporter::Cookbook (3pm) - useful, demonstrative, or stupid Sub::Exporter tricks
# which glxinfo
/usr/bin/glxinfo
#
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based on faith, not based on science.
Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!
Felix Miata
12:40 p.m.
On Mon, 22 May 2023 01:58:31 -0400
Felix Miata via tde-devels <devels(a)trinitydesktop.org> wrote:
E. Liddell via tde-devels composed on 2023-05-21 22:33
(UTC-0400):
[...]
On Sun, 21 May 2023 19:14:34 -0400 Felix Miata
wrote:
> E. Liddell via tde-devels composed on
2023-05-21 18:57 (UTC-0400):
>>> GTK3 comes with several demo programs, although I can't be sure your
distro
>>> installs them. Try calling gtk3-demo or gtk3-widget-factory at the command
>>> line. # which gtk3-demo
which: no gtk3-demo in (/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin)
Okay, definitely not installed then. Smallish packages with minimal dependencies
that use GTK3 would include mousepad, xarchiver, usbview, putty, and xdaliclock.
(Note: I don't have all of these installed, I just queried for all gtk+-dependent
packages and checked a few that I thought were likely to have short dep lists.)
Also, if you happen to have inkscape, audacity, or handbrake installed,
they all use GTK3. As do a lot of the closed-source chat programs (discord, skype,
signal, slack, whatsapp), although they may have skinned it to varying extents
that make it difficult to use to test anything.
E. Liddell
5:19 p.m.
Le 22/05/2023 à 14:40, E. Liddell via tde-devels a écrit :
Okay, definitely not installed then. Smallish packages with minimal dependencies
that use GTK3 would include mousepad, xarchiver, usbview, putty, and xdaliclock.
(Note: I don't have all of these installed, I just queried for all gtk+-dependent
packages and checked a few that I thought were likely to have short dep lists.)
Also, if you happen to have inkscape, audacity, or handbrake installed,
they all use GTK3. As do a lot of the closed-source chat programs (discord, skype,
signal, slack, whatsapp), although they may have skinned it to varying extents
that make it difficult to use to test anything.
E. Liddell
Felix, you can use the "urpmf" command to search package containing a
specific file:
$ sudo urpmf /usr/bin/gtk3-demo
lib64gtk+3.0-devel:/usr/bin/gtk3-demo
lib64gtk+3.0-devel:/usr/bin/gtk3-demo-application
In this case, the binary you are looking for is in 'lib64gtk+3.0-devel'
package. Again, you will have several dependencies if you install this :)
François
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