I've had success with 'xine' 'kmplayer' (very slow) 'mplayer' (ok but full screen) and 'kaffeine"
Yes, but those apps are not default apps. Kaboodle is the only base app that plays videos.
Xine is indeed a dependency for several Trinity apps, but all of those apps are not base installation apps, like amarok, kaffeine, kmplayer, etc.
Darrell
my vote is for kmplayer, since it uses the mplayer backend... which has lots of active development (see mplayer2 and mpv), but those are both drop in replacements.
Calvin
On 4 February 2014 13:09, Darrell Anderson darrella@hushmail.com wrote:
I've had success with 'xine' 'kmplayer' (very slow) 'mplayer' (ok but full screen) and 'kaffeine"
Yes, but those apps are not default apps. Kaboodle is the only base app that plays videos.
Xine is indeed a dependency for several Trinity apps, but all of those apps are not base installation apps, like amarok, kaffeine, kmplayer, etc.
Darrell
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Dne út 4. února 2014 Calvin Morrison napsal(a):
my vote is for kmplayer, since it uses the mplayer backend... which has lots of active development (see mplayer2 and mpv), but those are both drop in replacements.
Calvin
On 4 February 2014 13:09, Darrell Anderson darrella@hushmail.com
wrote:
I've had success with 'xine' 'kmplayer' (very slow) 'mplayer' (ok but full screen) and 'kaffeine"
Yes, but those apps are not default apps. Kaboodle is the only base app that plays videos.
Xine is indeed a dependency for several Trinity apps, but all of those apps are not base installation apps, like amarok, kaffeine, kmplayer, etc.
Darrell
KMPlayer for me very upset that the audio output does not use the arts. As a result, the volume controls 'master' instead to control only its own volume, as it does kaffeine.
Slavek --
why would it use arts? Nobody has used arts for years, even when KDE3 was around, people were sticking with alsa and oss. I would rather trinity go away from arts in the long run.
On 4 February 2014 13:20, Slávek Banko slavek.banko@axis.cz wrote:
Dne út 4. února 2014 Calvin Morrison napsal(a):
my vote is for kmplayer, since it uses the mplayer backend... which has lots of active development (see mplayer2 and mpv), but those are both drop in replacements.
Calvin
On 4 February 2014 13:09, Darrell Anderson darrella@hushmail.com
wrote:
I've had success with 'xine' 'kmplayer' (very slow) 'mplayer' (ok but full screen) and 'kaffeine"
Yes, but those apps are not default apps. Kaboodle is the only base app that plays videos.
Xine is indeed a dependency for several Trinity apps, but all of those apps are not base installation apps, like amarok, kaffeine, kmplayer, etc.
Darrell
KMPlayer for me very upset that the audio output does not use the arts. As a result, the volume controls 'master' instead to control only its own volume, as it does kaffeine.
Slavek
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Dne út 4. února 2014 Calvin Morrison napsal(a):
why would it use arts? Nobody has used arts for years, even when KDE3 was around, people were sticking with alsa and oss. I would rather trinity go away from arts in the long run.
On 4 February 2014 13:20, Slávek Banko slavek.banko@axis.cz wrote:
Dne út 4. února 2014 Calvin Morrison napsal(a):
my vote is for kmplayer, since it uses the mplayer backend... which has lots of active development (see mplayer2 and mpv), but those are both drop in replacements.
Calvin
On 4 February 2014 13:09, Darrell Anderson darrella@hushmail.com
wrote:
I've had success with 'xine' 'kmplayer' (very slow) 'mplayer' (ok but full screen) and 'kaffeine"
Yes, but those apps are not default apps. Kaboodle is the only base app that plays videos.
Xine is indeed a dependency for several Trinity apps, but all of those apps are not base installation apps, like amarok, kaffeine, kmplayer, etc.
Darrell
KMPlayer for me very upset that the audio output does not use the arts. As a result, the volume controls 'master' instead to control only its own volume, as it does kaffeine.
Slavek
Sure, it is not necessary to use the arts. But it is a "bug" that instead of its own volume KMPlayer affects the 'master' volume. I want to be able to silence only video. But KMPlayer silences all. I remember when it was possible to use the arts output, volume work "properly".
Slavek --
On Tue, 4 Feb 2014 19:48:47 +0100 Slávek Banko slavek.banko@axis.cz wrote:
KMPlayer for me very upset that the audio output does not use the arts. As a result, the volume controls 'master' instead to control only its own volume, as it does kaffeine.
Slavek
Sure, it is not necessary to use the arts. But it is a "bug" that instead of its own volume KMPlayer affects the 'master' volume. I want to be able to silence only video. But KMPlayer silences all. I remember when it was possible to use the arts output, volume work "properly".
KMplayer is just an MPlayer wrapper, IIRC, and MPlayer's man page still lists arts as an audio output target. It would probably be useful to see if this is still viable (run "mplayer -ao arts [file]" from the command line, and see if adjustment still affects the master volume--I don't use arts, and so can't test). If it works, KMPlayer can be tweaked to offer the option if arts is installed.
This gets us no closer to solving the problem of a viable default video player, though, unless we want to shift KMPlayer into tde-multimedia.
E. Liddell
What's the downside of that? On Feb 4, 2014 6:51 PM, "E. Liddell" ejlddll@googlemail.com wrote:
On Tue, 4 Feb 2014 19:48:47 +0100 Slávek Banko slavek.banko@axis.cz wrote:
KMPlayer for me very upset that the audio output does not use the arts. As a result, the volume controls 'master' instead to control only its own volume, as it does kaffeine.
Slavek
Sure, it is not necessary to use the arts. But it is a "bug" that instead of its own volume KMPlayer affects the 'master' volume. I want to be able to silence only video. But KMPlayer silences all. I remember when it was possible to use the arts output, volume work "properly".
KMplayer is just an MPlayer wrapper, IIRC, and MPlayer's man page still lists arts as an audio output target. It would probably be useful to see if this is still viable (run "mplayer -ao arts [file]" from the command line, and see if adjustment still affects the master volume--I don't use arts, and so can't test). If it works, KMPlayer can be tweaked to offer the option if arts is installed.
This gets us no closer to solving the problem of a viable default video player, though, unless we want to shift KMPlayer into tde-multimedia.
E. Liddell
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On 02/04/2014 06:37 PM, Calvin Morrison wrote:
What's the downside of that?
Umm.. Mutant.. -- It's not part of the core of TDE --- it's an application... We want to identify the best video player among the 'core' of TDE...
That's what started this kerfuffle.....
but besides that (just moving into tde-multimedia solves the problem), what's the downside?
On 4 February 2014 19:46, David C. Rankin drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com wrote:
On 02/04/2014 06:37 PM, Calvin Morrison wrote:
What's the downside of that?
Umm.. Mutant.. -- It's not part of the core of TDE --- it's an application... We want to identify the best video player among the 'core' of TDE...
That's what started this kerfuffle.....
-- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
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On 02/04/2014 07:37 PM, Calvin Morrison wrote:
but besides that (just moving into tde-multimedia solves the problem), what's the downside?
no downside. I like the idea. Run kmplayer and check the speed issue. I don't know why I see bad performance.