10 Dec
2010
10 Dec
'10
7:37 a.m.
Hi,
Pardus is a Linux distribution funded and developed by the Turkish Government.
We're planning to release a Corporate version - Pardus Corporate 2 - which is
based on KDE 3.5.
We've been maintaining KDE 3.5 for a very long time so we have a lot of
bugfix/feature patches in our base packages.
I want to push those patches to trinity after doing a review with trinity
contributors about their upstreamability.
And then I really want to switch to Trinity KDE in Pardus Corporate 2 as this
will be a long-term supported release which should a have a maintained desktop
environment.
Right now I started to prepare packages for the dependencies.
I'm waiting for your co-operation to make things better.
---
Ozan Çağlayan
TUBITAK/UEKAE - Pardus Linux
http://www.pardus.org.tr/eng
10 Dec
10 Dec
6:47 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Introducing Pardus
Hi,
Pardus is a Linux distribution funded and developed by the Turkish
Government.
We're planning to release a Corporate version - Pardus Corporate 2 - which
is
based on KDE 3.5.
We've been maintaining KDE 3.5 for a very long time so we have a lot of
bugfix/feature patches in our base packages.
I want to push those patches to trinity after doing a review with trinity
contributors about their upstreamability.
And then I really want to switch to Trinity KDE in Pardus Corporate 2 as
this
will be a long-term supported release which should a have a maintained
desktop
environment.
Right now I started to prepare packages for the dependencies.
I'm waiting for your co-operation to make things better.
This sounds like a great idea! I am not sure how you would like to
slipstream the bugfixes into Trinity, as equivalent patches may have
already been applied. Suggestions here are welcome.
The main criteria for including patches into the Trinity project is that
a.) No existing user-visible functionality is removed
b.) If new functionality is added or the user interface is altered that
said functionality or UI changes can be deactivated by the end user
through a GUI configuration option
c.) The patches must be maintainable; i.e. clearly understandable by a
third party and adhering to all rules of the programming language in use.
Thanks!
Timothy Pearson
Trinity Desktop Project
8:47 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Introducing Pardus
I remember trying Pardus a while back, but didn't get much into it. It
didn't leave a bad impression though, and it's nice to see a
government leaning toward something that actually works (you guys may
need to talk to our USA gov). Once you guys start pushing some patches
around, I'd be game for testing, though with limited Internet, I may
be a bit slow.
--
Kris
"Piki"
Ark Linux Webmaster
Wannabe Ark Linux packager
9:49 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Introducing Pardus
I would also like to help with testing. I use Pardus 2007.x, if I recall
correctly, and it was quite nice. Unfortunately the subsequent version was
not very stable and I kind looked elsewhere. But it was mostly an easy to
use distro, which was nice.
I'm still kind of new to trinity but tell me, how's bluetooth support?
Broken right? Fixed in Pardus?
Best regards,
Tiago
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Kristopher Gamrat <pikidalto(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
I remember trying Pardus a while back, but didn't
get much into it. It
didn't leave a bad impression though, and it's nice to see a
government leaning toward something that actually works (you guys may
need to talk to our USA gov). Once you guys start pushing some patches
around, I'd be game for testing, though with limited Internet, I may
be a bit slow.
--
Kris
"Piki"
Ark Linux Webmaster
Wannabe Ark Linux packager
11 Dec
11 Dec
9:56 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Introducing Pardus
On 10.12.2010 23:49, Tiago Marques wrote:
I would also like to help with testing. I use Pardus
2007.x, if I
recall correctly, and it was quite nice. Unfortunately the subsequent
version was not very stable and I kind looked elsewhere. But it was
mostly an easy to use distro, which was nice.
I'm still kind of new to trinity but tell me, how's bluetooth support?
Broken right? Fixed in Pardus?
The problem with the kdebluetooth in KDE 3.5 is that it only works with
BlueZ 3.x. It should not be too difficult to port it to the new BlueZ
stack as it uses D-Bus calls instead of linking to bluez shared library.
We unfortunately currently ship blueman as our Bluetooth manager as we
don't have enough power to make kdebluetooth work. blueman works
out-of-the-box.
Timothy, the main development resides in kde/branches/trinity right? I'm
gonna prepare a report for every base package consisting of what the
patch I'm suggesting is doing, etc.
And also do you plan to split kde-i18n tarballs?
Thanks,
Ozan Caglayan
8:26 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Introducing Pardus
On 10.12.2010 23:49, Tiago Marques wrote:
Correct,
I would also like to help with testing. I use
Pardus 2007.x, if I
recall correctly, and it was quite nice. Unfortunately the subsequent
version was not very stable and I kind looked elsewhere. But it was
mostly an easy to use distro, which was nice.
I'm still kind of new to trinity but tell me, how's bluetooth support?
Broken right? Fixed in Pardus?
The problem with the kdebluetooth in KDE 3.5 is that it only works with
BlueZ 3.x. It should not be too difficult to port it to the new BlueZ
stack as it uses D-Bus calls instead of linking to bluez shared library.
We unfortunately currently ship blueman as our Bluetooth manager as we
don't have enough power to make kdebluetooth work. blueman works
out-of-the-box.
Timothy, the main development resides in kde/branches/trinity right? I'm
gonna prepare a report for every base package consisting of what the
patch I'm suggesting is doing, etc.
And also do you plan to split kde-i18n tarballs?
I'm not sure what you are referring to here. A single tarball containing
.po files currently exists for each supported language; are you referring
to splitting each tarball up further?
Thanks!
Tim
12 Dec
12 Dec
8:53 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Introducing Pardus
I'm not sure what you are referring to here. A
single tarball containing
.po files currently exists for each supported language; are you referring
to splitting each tarball up further?
http://mirror2.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/releases/3.5.12/kde-…
This is the only tarball that I can see in the website but I think it
would be better to distribute every i18n tarball separately as packagers
are preparing separate i18n packages for their distro.
Or I can't find the separate tarballs :)
Thanks,
--
Pardus Linux
http://www.pardus.org.tr/eng
10:27 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Introducing Pardus
I'm not
sure what you are referring to here. A single tarball
containing
.po files currently exists for each supported language; are you
referring
to splitting each tarball up further?
http://mirror2.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/releases/3.5.12/kde-…
This is the only tarball that I can see in the website but I think it
would be better to distribute every i18n tarball separately as packagers
are preparing separate i18n packages for their distro.
Or I can't find the separate tarballs :)
11 Dec
11 Dec
8:28 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Introducing Pardus
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Ozan Çağlayan <ozan(a)pardus.org.tr> wrote:
On 10.12.2010 23:49, Tiago Marques wrote:
I see, thanks for the feedback. It's still a goal to have it ported then :)
How about network? Pardus config utilities or knetworkmanager?
Best regards
I would also like to help with testing. I use
Pardus 2007.x, if I recall
correctly, and it was quite nice. Unfortunately the subsequent version was
not very stable and I kind looked elsewhere. But it was mostly an easy to
use distro, which was nice.
I'm still kind of new to trinity but tell me, how's bluetooth support?
Broken right? Fixed in Pardus?
The problem with the kdebluetooth in KDE 3.5 is that it only works with
BlueZ 3.x. It should not be too difficult to port it to the new BlueZ stack
as it uses D-Bus calls instead of linking to bluez shared library.
We unfortunately currently ship blueman as our Bluetooth manager as we
don't have enough power to make kdebluetooth work. blueman works
out-of-the-box.
Timothy, the main development resides in
kde/branches/trinity right? I'm
gonna prepare a report for every base package consisting of what the patch
I'm suggesting is doing, etc.
And also do you plan to split kde-i18n tarballs?
Thanks,
Ozan Caglayan
12 Dec
12 Dec
1:44 p.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] Introducing Pardus
On Saturday 11 December 2010 12:56:59 Ozan Çağlayan wrote:
How did we resolve the problem with imlib?
It seems that kuickshow (which is needed for and kde3-digikam) require imlib,
and do not build with imlib2. And imlib require gtk-devel and does not build
with gtk2-devel...
I would also
like to help with testing. I use Pardus 2007.x, if I
recall correctly, and it was quite nice. Unfortunately the subsequent
version was not very stable and I kind looked elsewhere. But it was
mostly an easy to use distro, which was nice.
I'm still kind of new to trinity but tell me, how's bluetooth support?
Broken right? Fixed in Pardus?
The problem with the kdebluetooth in KDE 3.5 is that it only works with
BlueZ 3.x. It should not be too difficult to port it to the new BlueZ
stack as it uses D-Bus calls instead of linking to bluez shared library.
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