Tim, Within the past two days or so I am experiencing occasional crashes when I log out of the Trinity session. I suspect commit 513ffc6e because of this backtrace: [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] [KCrash handler] #5 0xb6139a67 in raise () from /lib/libc.so.6 #6 0xb613b2e2 in abort () from /lib/libc.so.6 #7 0xb617805d in __libc_message () from /lib/libc.so.6 #8 0xb617e5aa in malloc_printerr () from /lib/libc.so.6 #9 0xb6181503 in _int_free () from /lib/libc.so.6 #10 0xb61846b0 in free () from /lib/libc.so.6 #11 0xb636b191 in operator delete(void*) () from /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 #12 0xb636b1ed in operator delete[](void*) () from /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 #13 0xb675f2f0 in ~TQObject (this=0x8180da8, __in_chrg=<value optimized out>) at kernel/qobject.cpp:475 #14 0xb6794a39 in ~TQWidget (this=0x8180da8, __in_chrg=<value optimized out>) at kernel/qwidget.cpp:1007 #15 0xb71cd059 in ~KLed (this=0x8180da8, __in_chrg=<value optimized out>) at /dev/shm/tdelibs/tdeui/kled.cpp:106 #16 0xb5eb8195 in ~KLedButton (this=0x8180da8, __in_chrg=<value optimized out>) at kledbutton.cpp:43 #17 0xb67949ad in ~TQWidget (this=0x8174e20, __in_chrg=<value optimized out>) at kernel/qwidget.cpp:996 #18 0xb5ea1c11 in ~MixDeviceWidget (this=0x8174e20, __in_chrg=<value optimized out>) at mixdevicewidget.cpp:67 #19 0xb5ea739f in ~MDWSlider (this=0x8174e20, __in_chrg=<value optimized out>) at mdwslider.h:66 #20 0xb67949ad in ~TQWidget (this=0x8171c28, __in_chrg=<value optimized out>) at kernel/qwidget.cpp:996 #21 0xb5e9bab3 in ~ViewBase (this=0x8171c28, __in_chrg=<value optimized out>) at viewbase.cpp:68 #22 0xb5ea0331 in ~ViewSliders (this=0x8171c28, __in_chrg=<value optimized out>) at viewsliders.cpp:59 #23 0xb5e9c7a5 in ~ViewOutput (this=0x8171c28, __in_chrg=<value optimized out>) at viewoutput.cpp:35 #24 0xb67949ad in ~TQWidget (this=0x81700e8, __in_chrg=<value optimized out>) at kernel/qwidget.cpp:996 #25 0xb689df81 in ~TQFrame (this=0x81700e8, __in_chrg=<value optimized out>) at widgets/ntqframe.h:51 #26 ~TQWidgetStack (this=0x81700e8, __in_chrg=<value optimized out>) at widgets/qwidgetstack.cpp:182 #27 0xb67949ad in ~TQWidget (this=0x816ff08, __in_chrg=<value optimized out>) at kernel/qwidget.cpp:996 #28 0xb688b4e6 in ~TQTabWidget (this=0x816ff08, __in_chrg=<value optimized out>) at widgets/qtabwidget.cpp:257 #29 0xb72e8119 in ~KTabWidget (this=0x816ff08, __in_chrg=<value optimized out>) at /dev/shm/tdelibs/tdeui/ktabwidget.cpp:77 #30 0xb67949ad in ~TQWidget (this=0x816f578, __in_chrg=<value optimized out>) at kernel/qwidget.cpp:996 #31 0xb5eab253 in ~KMixerWidget (this=0x816f578, __in_chrg=<value optimized out>) at kmixerwidget.cpp:91 #32 0xb5e96cee in TQPtrList<KMixerWidget>::deleteItem (this=0x80b5710, d=0x0) at /opt/trinity/include/ntqptrlist.h:153 #33 0xb6a22e81 in TQGList::clear (this=0x80b5710) at tools/qglist.cpp:704 #34 0xb5e96d1d in TQPtrList<KMixerWidget>::clear (this=0x80b5710) at /opt/trinity/include/ntqptrlist.h:96 #35 0xb5e970bd in ~TQPtrList (this=0x80b5710, __in_chrg=<value optimized out>) at /opt/trinity/include/ntqptrlist.h:73 #36 0xb5e9626f in ~KMixWindow (this=0x80b5620, __in_chrg=<value optimized out>, __vtt_parm=<value optimized out>) at kmix.cpp:103 #37 0xb5ebbc0b in ~KMixApp (this=0x80c2cb0, __in_chrg=<value optimized out>) at KMixApp.cpp:36 #38 0xb5e93b3d in kdemain (argc=7, argv=0x80a8560) at main.cpp:67 #39 0xb787e474 in tdeinitmain (argc=7, argv=0x80a8560) at kmix_dummy.cpp:3 #40 0x0804e461 in launch (argc=<value optimized out>, _name=<value optimized out>, args=<value optimized out>, cwd=0x0, envc=1, envs=0x80a8a3d "DISPLAY=:0.0", reset_env=false, tty=0x0, avoid_loops=false, startup_id_str=0x80a8a4e "ovenbird;1341414944;536038;3110_TIME51073") at /dev/shm/tdelibs/kinit/kinit.cpp:673 #41 0x0804f191 in handle_launcher_request (sock=9) at /dev/shm/tdelibs/kinit/kinit.cpp:1240 #42 0x0804f89e in handle_requests (waitForPid=<value optimized out>) at /dev/shm/tdelibs/kinit/kinit.cpp:1443 #43 0x08050db0 in main (argc=5, argv=0xbf934614, envp=0xbf93462c) at /dev/shm/tdelibs/kinit/kinit.cpp:1909 Darrell