6 Aug
2013
6 Aug
'13
2:21 a.m.
Hello,
I've seen that the "pmount" utility is used in TDE R14 for removable
devices.
I've also seen that this utility is NOT provided at all in some
distributions, e.g. Mageia 3.
Questions:
1) If pmount does not exist, is there any alternative in TDE R14 to
mount/umount devices ? (I'd say no, because I have an error message
saying pmount was not found)
2) This utility looks like it is not maintained anymore upstream. I've
built 0.9.99-alpha, and it works but needs some patches. Could we import
into our Git to have our own "TDE-certified" pmount utility ?
3) Could'nt udisks2 do the same as pmount ?
And some more questions about R14 new features ...
1) Is HAL/Halbackend code still entirely present ? (for old distro NOT
having udisks, upower, etc ... but having HAL out of the box)
2) Do we have a summary of "what libraries are used for" in
tdelibs/tdebase ? For example, if I build with "udisks" but no
"udisks2"
support, what feature will I lose exactly ? And what alternatives do I
have ?
Up to 3.5.13.x, the situation seemed clear: without HAL, there was no
alternative :-)
Thanks
Francois
6 Aug
6 Aug
4:41 a.m.
New subject: [trinity-devel] about pmount and R14 new backends
2013/8/5 François Andriot <francois.andriot(a)free.fr>
Hello,
I've seen that the "pmount" utility is used in TDE R14 for removable
devices.
I've also seen that this utility is NOT provided at all in some
distributions, e.g. Mageia 3.
Questions:
1) If pmount does not exist, is there any alternative in TDE R14 to
mount/umount devices ? (I'd say no, because I have an error message saying
pmount was not found)
2) This utility looks like it is not maintained anymore upstream. I've
built 0.9.99-alpha, and it works but needs some
patches. Could we import
into our Git to have our own "TDE-certified" pmount utility ?
3) Could'nt udisks2 do the same as pmount ?
Hi, about a week ago I've told Tim quite similar concerns in private
mail...
I'm currently working on the moving tdehwlib's code to standalone
shared library out of tdecore and splitting it into several backends. I've
started with udisks2 support and nearly finished with it. Unfortunately I
run into the fact that tdehw part of media kioslave is nailed to pmount. So
it will require some testing and accept it to release during code-freeze
stage isn't a good idea. Moreover It would break some tdelibs API, which is
not supposed to be during R14 lifecycle, so as I consider It won't be
introduced before R15. On the other hand, is it so important? TDE is used
by only few people around the world, and a small API breakage between R14.x
releases won't be so painful IMO.
And some more questions about R14 new features ...
1) Is HAL/Halbackend code still entirely present ?
(for old distro NOT
having udisks, upower, etc ... but having HAL out of the box)
2) Do we have a summary of "what libraries are used for" in
tdelibs/tdebase ? For example, if I build with "udisks" but no
"udisks2"
support, what feature will I lose exactly ? And what alternatives do I have
?
1) It supposed to be if you build tdebase with -DWITH_HAL=ON and
-DWITH_TDEHWLIB=OFF. But I can't promise that, because I couldn't make hal
to work with recent kernels...
2) There is no such notes for tdelibs yet, but for over modules there are
comments in CMakeLists.txt. They define which modules are affected by
certain flags. In most cases it's quite easy to guess what functionality
they switch. Some of them also have description and NOTE's. Also you cat
grep sources for WITH_* and in most of cases HAVE_* macroses.
As for udisks option, for now they used only for eject CD tray's (and may
be other media).
Up to 3.5.13.x, the situation seemed clear: without HAL, there was no
alternative :-)
Thanks
Francois
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