On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 22:43, Darrell Anderson humanreadable@yahoo.com wrote:

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As I revise and update the Trinity documentation, I will confront questions I can't answer, or should not answer on my own without team opinions.

The documentation often refers to the K-Menu.

The Trinity artwork contains a "T" button icon rather than a K. Should we refer to this button as the T-Menu?

I lean toward updating all documentation to reference the T-Menu despite some of the underlying app and library names. For example, kmenueditor. Many TDE apps still use the "k" prefix and so this would not be any different. Yet I think T-Menu is more consistent with "Trinity Desktop Environment."

Objections?

Darrell

Is it possible we could call it the system/program/favorites/kickoff menu? And denote it as being "marked with the T"? T-Menu just doesn't sound right to me... >_>"

I hate "T-Menu"--"The TDE Menu" or "Kicker" seem to be viable alternatives, especially since Kicker is not part of KDE4 IIRC.

Tim

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Is it possible we could call it the

system/program/favorites/kickoff

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menu? And denote it as being "marked with the T"? T-Menu just doesn't sound right to me... >_>"

I hate "T-Menu"--"The TDE Menu" or "Kicker" seem to be viable alternatives, especially since Kicker is not part of KDE4 IIRC.

Whereas the phrase "T-Menu" does come with some logic for the name :), I'm siding that we should opt for verbosity in the help files and replace "K-Menu" with "TDE Menu."

However, there are references to the "K-icon." This is never easy. :)

I suggest we refer to the button icon as "T-icon" to maintain consistency with past references to "K-icon." The image is indeed a "T" nowadays. Distinguishing between the two terms will require a lot of proofreading but the two terms will remain separate.

Darrell

How about "Trinity icon"? It is more descriptive, and I have no intentions to change the project's logo at this time.

I don't want you to change the menu logo. I like that logo. :)

Let's keep the "Trinity icon" description in mind. For the moment I am using the phrase "T-icon." Proofreading will reveal whether the term "T-icon" looks awkward in context. :) We can later change that term in the entities file or we can create a new entity and use both terms.

I uploaded a new "T-icon" image in the bug report. At least now the image will look the same in the help files as in the actual desktop. :)

Currently I am working on the fundamental changes in tdelibs and tdebase. Especially tdelibs, which contains all of the handbook navigation files and entity files. I have made a couple of builds with the changes and slowly the help files are becoming TDE files. :)

I'm getting close to uploading big patches for both tdelibs and tdebase, which will update the help files to reference TDE rather than KDE. There is a lot more work to do, but ever so slowly the documents are changing.

There remains a lot of cleanup with broken links, non-existent links, old emails, etc. I'm finding many of them and fixing them the best I can, but eventually we'll have to discuss how we want to handle many of those items. A few (and only a few thus far) I have simply deleted the relative paragraph because the information does not apply.

This is not a simple matter of just deleting everything. Credits and copyrights need to remain, although we add our notices too.

When the first big wave of changes are merged to GIT, then others can start proofreading to note anything that is out of context, no longer applies, is technically incorrect, etc. But first we need these fundamental changes. :)

Darrell