All,
Arch is switching to systemd init. I don't know if this will have any impact on TDE, but older versions have dependency conflicts due to the packages that have been removed (heimdal from krb5, etc...) Not all systemd related, but I wonder what other init or sysv dependent packages will need to be fixed for systemd -- hopefully none at all, but I don't know enough to knnow.
So what do the TDE gurus say? Is there anyone building/running on a systemd box currently? If not, what problems has anyone heard of caused by systemd (more importantly -- and known tde specific impacts related to systemd.
Issue/No Issue? Gurus?
David,
It is not switching merely relying on the systemd-tool package because undeveloped merged upstream with them.
Hopefully are never switches
Cal On Jun 3, 2012 2:37 AM, "David C. Rankin" drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com wrote:
All,
Arch is switching to systemd init. I don't know if this will have any impact on TDE, but older versions have dependency conflicts due to the packages that have been removed (heimdal from krb5, etc...) Not all systemd related, but I wonder what other init or sysv dependent packages will need to be fixed for systemd -- hopefully none at all, but I don't know enough to knnow.
So what do the TDE gurus say? Is there anyone building/running on a systemd box currently? If not, what problems has anyone heard of caused by systemd (more importantly -- and known tde specific impacts related to systemd.
Issue/No Issue? Gurus?
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On 3 June 2012 08:23, Calvin Morrison mutantturkey@gmail.com wrote:
David,
It is not switching merely relying on the systemd-tool package because undeveloped merged upstream with them.
Hopefully are never switches
Cal
On Jun 3, 2012 2:37 AM, "David C. Rankin" drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com wrote:
All,
Arch is switching to systemd init. I don't know if this will have any impact on TDE, but older versions have dependency conflicts due to the packages that have been removed (heimdal from krb5, etc...) Not all systemd related, but I wonder what other init or sysv dependent packages will need to be fixed for systemd -- hopefully none at all, but I don't know enough to knnow.
So what do the TDE gurus say? Is there anyone building/running on a systemd box currently? If not, what problems has anyone heard of caused by systemd (more importantly -- and known tde specific impacts related to systemd.
Issue/No Issue? Gurus?
Sorry my mobile phone made some bad autocorrects.
Udev has merged upstream with systemd, arch is now packaging Udev and some other systemd stuff that our initscripts rely on into a package called systemd-tools.
Hopefully they will not ever move Arch officially to systemd. Of course that topic has been overkilled on the arch-general list.
Calvin
On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 01:37:38 -0500 "David C. Rankin" drankinatty@suddenlinkmail.com wrote:
All,
Arch is switching to systemd init. I don't know if this will have any impact on TDE, but older versions have dependency conflicts due to the packages that have been removed (heimdal from krb5, etc...) Not all systemd related, but I wonder what other init or sysv dependent packages will need to be fixed for systemd -- hopefully none at all, but I don't know enough to knnow.
So what do the TDE gurus say? Is there anyone building/running on a systemd box currently? If not, what problems has anyone heard of caused by systemd (more importantly -- and known tde specific impacts related to systemd.
Issue/No Issue? Gurus?
Fedora seems to have been using systemd by default for the last version or two; I believe they have working Trinity packages. OpenSuSE has one (very minor) bug filed against the KDE3/systemd combination: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-bugs/2011-12/msg01977.html
Most of what systemd does is likely to be at a level of the system that's lower than what Trinity needs to concern itself with. systemd/sysv incompatibilities seem to be mostly at the level of init script syntax, which I don't think we need to worry about.
Further reading: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Incompatibilities http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/why.html , http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/OpenRC [1] http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/writing-display-managers [2]
[1] Two slightly different comparisons of currently available Linux startup systems. While the line items in the first table on each page are almost identical, it's interesting to see the biases sloshing around. ;)
[2]Only a concern for us if tdm/kdm was ever integrated with ConsoleKit, which I don't think it was
On 06/03/2012 07:59 AM, E. Liddell wrote:
Fedora seems to have been using systemd by default for the last version or two; I believe they have working Trinity packages. OpenSuSE has one (very minor) bug filed against the KDE3/systemd combination: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-bugs/2011-12/msg01977.html
Most of what systemd does is likely to be at a level of the system that's lower than what Trinity needs to concern itself with. systemd/sysv incompatibilities seem to be mostly at the level of init script syntax, which I don't think we need to worry about.
Further reading: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Incompatibilities http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/why.html , http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/OpenRC [1] http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/writing-display-managers [2]
[1] Two slightly different comparisons of currently available Linux startup systems. While the line items in the first table on each page are almost identical, it's interesting to see the biases sloshing around. ;)
[2]Only a concern for us if tdm/kdm was ever integrated with ConsoleKit, which I don't think it was
Thank you E!
I was hoping that was the case, but didn't know how the details would work. The only one that caused me concern was tdm. I guess as long as it can get called from inittab or some systemd.service, then tdm really won't care -- just as long as something calls it :)
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