Neither Slavek nor Michelle are able to reproduce (using only VMs) http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2821 and thus are unable to fix this year old blocker bug. But, I cannot NOT reproduce it on real hardware with any of the following distros: Debian Fedora Mageia openSUSE So, I want to provide a _detailed_ reproduction scenario. openSUSE TDE repos are broken again, https://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2938 so I want to do this with Buster. openSUSE semi-automatically produces logs, using save_y2logs, which collects the content from /var/log/zypp/ and possibly elsewhere. Suse devs use them to help determine blame. How can something similar be done with Debian? My Debian installations don't produce any kind of package management logging that I can find. :-( -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/