Some of you may know of "smxi" which is a set of administration scripts for Debian going back a number of years. Originating from the sidux project, smxi is well-known and repected among Debian (particularly testing/sid) users.
I recently requested on smxi forum
http://techpatterns.com/forums/about2131-10.html
for kdm-trinity to be added to the list of supported display managers. The scripts autodetect the default DM so it can stop/start it when nececcary.
The admin was happy to do so, however it did not work as expected because of TDE naming inconsistencies and the DM executable being in other than /usr/bin
$ which kdm /opt/trinity/bin/kdm
$ ls /etc/init.d | grep kdm kdm-trinity
$ cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager /opt/trinity/bin/kdm
I would like to draw attention to this, as I am sure TDE would be more widely accepted if more general standards were followed (however, I know the team is already working in this area)
I would like to draw attention to this, as I am sure TDE would be more widely accepted if more general standards were followed (however, I know the team is already working in this area)
The reason to avoid /usr/ is to prevent conflicts with KDE4. according the the fhs we are doing it correctly by using /opt/. While a lot of stuff is renamed, this solution is much more elegant than adding -trinity to all binaries or renaming every lib.
http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#OPTADDONAPPLICATIONSOFTWAREPACK...
Calvin
I would like to draw attention to this, as I am sure TDE would be more widely accepted if more general standards were followed (however, I know the team is already working in this area)
The reason to avoid /usr/ is to prevent conflicts with KDE4. according the the fhs we are doing it correctly by using /opt/. While a lot of stuff is renamed, this solution is much more elegant than adding -trinity to all binaries or renaming every lib.
http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#OPTADDONAPPLICATIONSOFTWAREPACK...
Calvin
Regarding the kdm/tdm problem, R14.0 will install the TDE Display Manager as /opt/trinity/bin/tdm. Our nightly builds already do this.
Tim
On Sunday 17 of June 2012 01:18:17 Timothy Pearson wrote:
Regarding the kdm/tdm problem, R14.0 will install the TDE Display Manager as /opt/trinity/bin/tdm. Our nightly builds already do this.
Tim
V3.5.13-sru addresses only repairs and deliberately avoiding any renaming. For these reasons, for v3.5.13.1 I do not plan to rename kdm => tdm.
Slavek --
On Sunday 17 of June 2012 01:18:17 Timothy Pearson wrote:
Regarding the kdm/tdm problem, R14.0 will install the TDE Display Manager as /opt/trinity/bin/tdm. Our nightly builds already do this.
Tim
V3.5.13-sru addresses only repairs and deliberately avoiding any renaming. For these reasons, for v3.5.13.1 I do not plan to rename kdm => tdm.
Slavek
This is the correct decision from my viewpoint as well.
Tim
I use Slavek's patches on 3.5.13 here, they are really good .I know they are for 3.5.13 improvements and renaming might be outside that scope.
For the future (if /opt will still be used) the proposed renaming with a symlink at /usr/bin/tdm (at least for Debian packages) and for /etc/init.d/tdm to exist, could work and help TDE acceptance among Debian users.
On 17/06/2012, Slávek Banko slavek.banko@axis.cz wrote:
On Sunday 17 of June 2012 01:18:17 Timothy Pearson wrote:
Regarding the kdm/tdm problem, R14.0 will install the TDE Display Manager as /opt/trinity/bin/tdm. Our nightly builds already do this.
Tim
V3.5.13-sru addresses only repairs and deliberately avoiding any renaming. For these reasons, for v3.5.13.1 I do not plan to rename kdm => tdm.
Slavek
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Thanks Calvin for that clarification on use of /opt, I did not doubt that was true myself.
As a long-time Debian user I'm just trying to promote TDE acceptance in Debian circles as much as i can; smxi offered inclusion on my request, posted an updated script and that was what happened.
On 17/06/2012, David Hare davidahare@gmail.com wrote:
I use Slavek's patches on 3.5.13 here, they are really good .I know they are for 3.5.13 improvements and renaming might be outside that scope.
For the future (if /opt will still be used) the proposed renaming with a symlink at /usr/bin/tdm (at least for Debian packages) and for /etc/init.d/tdm to exist, could work and help TDE acceptance among Debian users.
On 17/06/2012, Slávek Banko slavek.banko@axis.cz wrote:
On Sunday 17 of June 2012 01:18:17 Timothy Pearson wrote:
Regarding the kdm/tdm problem, R14.0 will install the TDE Display Manager as /opt/trinity/bin/tdm. Our nightly builds already do this.
Tim
V3.5.13-sru addresses only repairs and deliberately avoiding any renaming. For these reasons, for v3.5.13.1 I do not plan to rename kdm => tdm.
Slavek
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