tde-devels January 2014

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Basic Function of CTRL+Click to Select Discrete Files Does Not Work in TDE
by David C. Rankin 31 Jan '14

31 Jan '14

All, Really strange behavior in 'konqueror --profile filemanagement' where you cannot select multiple discrete filenames in konqueror by pressing the [ctrl] key and clicking. The feature has always worked in KDE, but apparently has been broken in TDE for a while. I just checked 3.5.13-sru-1 and it is broken there. I can't believe this hasn't been flagged before now. Can someone please confirm this on your install. open konqueror file manager select a directory so you are viewing multiple files on the right side press and hole the [ctrl] key, now try and select multiple random files (you should be able to select/deselect any file without changing your other selections) If you cannot select multiple files with the [ctrl] key pressed, let me know. This is a break in fundamental chooser behavior in konqueror. I have confirmed this bug in both 3.5.13-sru and R14 branches and compared it to correct behavior in openSuSE KDE3. KDE3 works just fine, TDE doesn't. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Re: [trinity-devel] R14 RC1 ready?
by Darrell Anderson 31 Jan '14

31 Jan '14

>Right now the consensus from the main developers seems to be that >we are >not yet ready, so unfortunately we are not yet able to release >R14.0.0 RC1. For those who are interested, we have some etherpads where we track R14 progress: R14.0.0 Road Map http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/39 R14.0.0 Release Checklist http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/37 R14.0.0 Documentation http://trinity.etherpad.trinitydesktop.org/81 For the past few weeks I have been more than knee deep in the help handbooks. The amount of remaining work is overwhelming. In short, the handbooks are a mess. Many were written in the KDE 3.1 and 3.2 days and haven't been updated since. They are outdated and often incorrect. For triage, and for R14, we should collectively review the top level handbooks: Welcome to TDE (updated, needs proofreading and corrections) A Visual Guide to TDE (updated, needs proofreading and corrections) Quickstart Guide (updated, needs proofreading and corrections) TDE User Guide (review started, needs a lot of additional work and new screenshots) TDE Frequently Asked Questions (updated, needs proofreading and corrections) Remember that i18n reviews would be nice after we finally approve those documents. R14 will survive without any work on the handbooks. Yet the quality of the top level handbooks speak volumes about the project. All help is much appreciated. Feel free to send me markups in nothing but a text file. Darrell

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TDevelop Documentation - Help Pages Missing (path problem?)
by David C. Rankin 31 Jan '14

31 Jan '14

Darrell, All I don't know if you have opened TDevelop and looked for any of the help pages, but apparently there is a problem with the search path to the help/man files for a lot of the information can't be found. TDevelop looks like it is operating correctly, but most pages (including help pages for TQt, TQt Designer and TQt Assistant) can't be found. Here is what is working/not working: libxml2 API pages -- working libglade -- working User Agent Acces.. -- working SVG Pages -- working SDL Pages -- Man Page Dependent OpenGL -- Man Page Dependent KDevelop API Docs -- NOT working (bad links?) Document Object Mod -- working The KDE API Reference -- NOT working (bad path?) qmake User Guide -- NOT working TQt Reference Docs -- NOT working TQt Designer Manual -- NOT working TQt Assistant Manual -- NOT working Guide of the TQt Trans. -- NOT working -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Commit page not updating
by Darrell Anderson 31 Jan '14

31 Jan '14

No changes listed for the past three days. Does anybody have a script that can be run on local repos to provide the same information? Darrell

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Re: [trinity-devel] tdenetworkmanager crash on TDE start.
by Darrell Anderson 31 Jan '14

31 Jan '14

>> Disable tdenetworkmanager autostart. Then start >tdenetworkmanager >> manually after Trinity starts. >> >> Probably same results. >> >> Darrell > >I can't find it in the Service Manager. What's the trick for >finding it? Shame on me: There is no GUI control. Refer to bug report 1613. Edit tdenetworkmanagerrc: [General] Autostart=false Darrell

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Re: [trinity-devel] tdenetworkmanager crash on TDE start.
by Darrell Anderson 31 Jan '14

31 Jan '14

> Another issue I need to chase is tdenetworkmanager crashing as >soon as TDE starts. When I launch TDE, I'm greeted by a dailog telling me that >tdenetworkmanager died: attached. .xsession-errors has very little >information on the event: Disable tdenetworkmanager autostart. Then start tdenetworkmanager manually after Trinity starts. Probably same results. Darrell

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Re: [trinity-devel] kmix/kmixer cannot see arts running
by Darrell Anderson 31 Jan '14

31 Jan '14

> I have artsd running on this install, but kmix cannot find any >sound backend running: > > > 449 ? S 0:03 \_ tdelauncher [tdeinit] --new-startup > 460 ? S 0:24 \_ twin [tdeinit] -session >10d7cdd8c9000139108311200000009720000_1391 > 479 ? S 1:32 \_ /opt/trinity/bin/artsd -F 10 -S >4096 -s 60 -m >artsmessage -c drkonqi -l 3 -f > > kmix has the red crossed-out circle over it in the tray and when >opened, you >have no option of choosing any backend sound server. I have >screenshot of them >both. > > What should I attempt to try and get kmix working? I've seen this before, when logging in with the same account between two systems that have different sound hardware. Try terminating kmix, delete the two kmix* rc files, then start kmix. Darrell

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Re: [trinity-devel] kprinter cannot see running cupsd process
by Darrell Anderson 31 Jan '14

31 Jan '14

> Going through kcontrol printer configuration, I was hit with an >error that >cups could not be found (see attached dialog). That was strange >because cupsd >was running: > >[15:49 valhalla:/home/david] # systemctl status cups -l >cups.service - CUPS Printing Service > Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/cups.service; enabled) > Active: active (running) since Thu 2014-01-30 14:13:50 CST; 1h >37min ago > Main PID: 839 (cupsd) > CGroup: /system.slice/cups.service > └─839 /usr/bin/cupsd -f > > Do you have any ideas why kprinter configuration would not be >able to see cups? Just to be clear, kprinter is now tdeprinter. Run the following (konsole or Alt+F2): tdecmshell printers When the dialog appears, look just above the dialog OK/Cancel buttons. On my system I see this: Server: /var/run/cups/cups.sock Do you see anything similar? Darrell

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Did number of time a new window is refreshed on display decrease - initial missing text seen commonly
by David C. Rankin 31 Jan '14

31 Jan '14

Tim, Darrell, I recall discussion earlier about optimizations applied to R14. Did any of those have to do with the number of times a toolbar or menu is drawn or refreshed on first display? I ask because I am seeing a lot of text that is either missing or cut-off when a kcontrol app, or menu is displayed. The text headings in the individual kcontrol apps and pop-up config items are the worst. When you first open a config applet the top-half of the text is for the block titles. For example: open 'konqueror --profile filemanagement' (or 'Personal Files' on taskbar) The first block of options contains radio buttons for 'color' or 'picture' the block title for that group is 'Background'. When that dialog is first displayed, the top part of 'Background' is missing like it got clipped when the next element was drawn -- and then was never refreshed a last time to insure the entirety of all elements were visible. I don't ever recall seeing this behavior in the past and comparing to an older 3.5.13-sru install -- that does not occur. Another area is menu entries. Open kwrite and open the 'Edit' menu. When I first to this the Ctrl+G 'Go To' line contains nothing but the underscore and the Ctrl+G tooltip: " _ Ctrl+G " I just clicked it again and this time the "Overwrite Mode" text disappeared leaving only the 'Insert' tooltip on the right-side. An time focus changes, the text is restored (both in kwrite, kcontrol, etc..) Since a focus change (which I guess forces a redraw) corrects the issue, it makes it almost impossible to capture with ksnapshot. I have nothing concrete, but the feel I get is that some type of optimization fix was done to prevent TDE from redrawing a menu or applet one or two more times after initial display. I don't know if that is it, but it just feels like the elements are 1 redraw or refresh away from being ready when they are first displayed. You guys think about this and let me know where to go with it... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Re: [trinity-devel] KControl joystick module screen captures needed
by Darrell Anderson 31 Jan '14

31 Jan '14

>I have a joystick help handbook to push to git but no screen >captures. I don't own a joystick! :) > >I need two screen captures: > >* tdecmshell joystick (3.5.13.2: kcmshell joystick) > >* The Calibrate dialog > >Preferred ksnapshot method: Capture mode: Window under cursor Nobody has a joystick? Darrell

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