tde-devels March 2014

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Translation framework requests
by Timothy Pearson 11 Mar '14

11 Mar '14

All, I have received several requests to implement some type of translation framework in order to make submitting translations to TDE easier (this includes making sure they actually end up in GIT). Apparently the current process is cumbersome and error prone; I can attest to this as we have at least one large translations patch languishing in the bugtracker that cannot be cleanly applied to the current GIT sources. My question is: what would all you translators like to see out of the translation framework? Are there any existing open-source services that you prefer to use and/or might be usable with TDE? I would also like to know what your preferred workflow is so that I can try to design something to match. Thanks! Tim

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Indefinite QuickBuild outage
by Timothy Pearson 11 Mar '14

11 Mar '14

All, The QuickBuild build farm was taken offline this morning and will remain offline indefinitely. While I realize this pushes R14 release further out, the cold hard reality is that donations have fallen so much, along with the bad economy impacting my own finances, that I cannot afford to keep the build farm running at this time. Finances were already strained with the Web server upgrade, as the new software required newer hardware to keep performance at a reasonable level. My intention was to keep the build farm running until R14 was released, then see if any donations came in to cover some of the costs. However, this morning the main chiller was destroyed due to sudden power brownouts/surges, forcing the build farm offline. As I do not have the funds to replace this chiller, and with the onset of spring/warmer temperatures here, I cannot restart the build farm at this time. I will do my best to bring one builder online for each architecture in the next few days, but this severe drop in build power will obviously cause full archive rebuilds to take several months at minimum. As a result we need to start looking at dropping support for older Ubuntu versions, though I did not want to take this step as I know some larger deployments depend on this support. All other TDE services are not affected at this time. Sorry for the bad news! Timothy Pearson Trinity Desktop Project

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tdepowersave - found new race condition (that explains the constant 3-5%)
by David C. Rankin 11 Mar '14

11 Mar '14

Tim, All, In working though testing, I used 'tdedebugdialog --fullmode' and set the '0 generic' output to file kdebug.dbg (the default name) for all 4 (information, warning, error, etc). That file was over 46 Megabytes and 431,000 lines repeating tdepowersave activity in a 12 hour period. tdepowersave is constantly churning away in the following loop (2 examples): tdepowersave: unmonitored device changed: /sys/devices/ tdepowersave: unmonitored device changed: /sys/devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXPWRBN:00/input/input4/event3//dev/input/event3 tdepowersave: unmonitored device changed: /sys/devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXSLPBN:00/input/input5/event4//dev/input/event4 tdepowersave: unmonitored device changed: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:03.0/net/enp0s3/enp0s3 tdepowersave: unmonitored device changed: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:04.0/input/input3/event2//dev/input/event2 tdepowersave: unmonitored device changed: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:06.0/usb2/2-1/2-1:1.0/input/input2/event1//dev/input/event1 tdepowersave: unmonitored device changed: /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio0/input/input0/event0//dev/input/event0 tdepowersave: unmonitored device changed: /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input7/event6//dev/input/event6 tdepowersave: unmonitored device changed: /sys/devices/platform/pcspkr/input/input6/event5//dev/input/event5 tdepowersave: unmonitored device changed: /sys/devices/ tdepowersave: unmonitored device changed: /sys/devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXPWRBN:00/input/input4/event3//dev/input/event3 tdepowersave: unmonitored device changed: /sys/devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXSLPBN:00/input/input5/event4//dev/input/event4 tdepowersave: unmonitored device changed: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:03.0/net/enp0s3/enp0s3 tdepowersave: unmonitored device changed: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:04.0/input/input3/event2//dev/input/event2 tdepowersave: unmonitored device changed: /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:06.0/usb2/2-1/2-1:1.0/input/input2/event1//dev/input/event1 tdepowersave: unmonitored device changed: /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio0/input/input0/event0//dev/input/event0 tdepowersave: unmonitored device changed: /sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input7/event6//dev/input/event6 tdepowersave: unmonitored device changed: /sys/devices/platform/pcspkr/input/input6/event5//dev/input/event5 This is with the tde_dbus_hardwarecontrol happily set and not doing its repeating loop. Why is tdepowersave changing unmonitored devices multiple times per second? Is this just it spitting out what activity it read for various hardware devices (net, mouse, speaker)?? My mouse is usb, so I can see input there (not while I'm sleeping though), but why would any of the serial devices every change - they are not used. This looks like a true race condition, because none of my devices are changing, and they are certainly not changing multiple times every second while I'm asleep :) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Re : [trinity-devel] Translation framework requests
by gregory guy 10 Mar '14

10 Mar '14

> My question is: what would all you translators like to see out of the > translation framework? Are there any existing open-source services that > you prefer to use and/or might be usable with TDE? I would also like to > know what your preferred workflow is so that I can try to design something > to match. During the week end, I told to Michele that I had planned to work(*) on the French translation for ktorrent this week. I was going to fill in bugzilla with a patch to apply on the French po file, but when I read your email, I'm not sure that's the right way to handle that. I've never done that kind of translating before, consequently, I can't tell you what tool I'd like to work with. Regards. gregory (*) I don't intend to translate the software entirely but at least I'd like to remove some English vocab displayed on the main frame as well as in the menu (in the most common options/parameters).

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KBabel PO compendium broken links
by Michele Calgaro 09 Mar '14

09 Mar '14

Dear all, bug 1833 (http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1833) reports discontinued links to KBabel po compendium files. I googled a lot and seems the problem goes back to the KDE days. I am looking at removing those links and perhaps the whole TMX and PO compendium module pages, but before doing that I would like to know if any of you has been able to use them and in case which link you have used. Feedback is appreciated. Thanks Michele

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Test build on Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty)
by Slávek Banko 09 Mar '14

09 Mar '14

Hi all, in the past few days I have tested on my private builer building TDE R14.0.0 for Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty). All base packages as well as all applications has been successfully built. It seems that we are ready to add support for Ubuntu 14.04 in nightly-builds. -- Slavek

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Testing parallel build
by Slávek Banko 08 Mar '14

08 Mar '14

Hi all, during a recent test building for Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty), I also tested the parallel build of all packages. In the test I set 4 parallel jobs. The problems I have seen only the following packages: - tdebindings - tdegames - tdemultimedia - gwenview - kmplayer - koffice -- Slavek

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BUG - tdepowersave Grabbing 97% of CPU - overheating laptop
by David C. Rankin 08 Mar '14

08 Mar '14

All, Testing the new soft-freeze packages has disclosed a horrible problem with tdepowersave taking nearly 100% of the CPU. My laptop was nearly on fire this morning: [screenshot] http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/dt/trinity/ss/tdeowersave-97percent.jpg Earlier in development I saw tdepowesave in the 20-40% range, but never at near 100% of CPU. What to try? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Fatal error when updating local git repo
by Darrell 07 Mar '14

07 Mar '14

fatal: http://scm.trinitydesktop.org/scm/git/mlt++/info/refs not found: did you run git update-server-info on the server? What causes this message? How to cure?

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Multiple xdg-script FAILURE dialogs displayed on login (permission or path failure)
by David C. Rankin 07 Mar '14

07 Mar '14

All, After rebuilding tdebase, I experienced a set of 'X-dialog' (not k-dialog) errors related to xdg-update-script failures on login. The x-dialog warned that this script would continue to run on each login -- not good. The error said there were permission or path failures involved. There was also a file placed in ~/.trinity named: r14-xdg-update-validation-test9.txt containing: <Filename>kde-kcpuload.desktop</Filename> <Filename>kde-knutclient.desktop</Filename> <Filename>kde-kcpuload.desktop</Filename> <Filename>kde-knutclient.desktop</Filename> <Filename>kde-k3bsetup2.desktop</Filename> <Filename>kde-k3bsetup2.desktop</Filename> <Filename>kde-kcpuload.desktop</Filename> <Filename>kde-knutclient.desktop</Filename> <Filename>kde-k3bsetup2.desktop</Filename> <Filename>kde-konqfilemgr.desktop</Filename> The failure warning about path and permission problems must have occurred before .xsession-error activation. Looking at the .xsession-error, here were some new messages that stood out: [r14-xdg-update] Performing a profile update for Trinity release R14 XDG compliance. [r14-xdg-update] [r14-xdg-update] To run this script against a different user directory, or automated [r14-xdg-update] from within another script, pass the directory path as a parameter. [r14-xdg-update] For example: r14-xdg-update /home/user_dir [r14-xdg-update] Use the user home directory and not the profile directory. [r14-xdg-update] User directory: /home/david [r14-xdg-update] Profile directory: /home/david/.trinity [r14-xdg-update] [r14-xdg-update] Renaming some configuration files and directories. [r14-xdg-update] dockdevtocpluginrc->doctdevtocpluginrc [r14-xdg-update] kdevgrepviewrc->tdevgrepviewrc [r14-xdg-update] kdevsnippetrc->tdevsnippetrc [r14-xdg-update] kdevfileselectorrc->tdevfileselectorrc [r14-xdg-update] kdevdesignerrc->tdevdesignerrc [r14-xdg-update] kdevdocumentation->tdevdocumentation [r14-xdg-update] kdevfileselector->tdevfileselector [r14-xdg-update] kdevabbrev->tdevabbrev WHY WAS RENAMING CONFIG FILES NECESSARY -- NONE OF THESE FILES CONFLICT WITH ANYTHING AT ALL?? Was the approach just a massive sed -e 's/k/tde/g' kdevelop/* and then patching whatever got caught up in the mix? That just seems like a bad idea... Additional messages were: [tdeinit] Got SETENV 'SESSION_MANAGER=local/valhalla:@/tmp/.ICE-unix/635,unix/valhalla:/tmp/.ICE-unix/635,inet6/valhalla:57874,inet/valhalla:36274' from tdelauncher. [tdeinit] Got SETENV 'XCURSOR_THEME=default' from tdelauncher. [tdeinit] Got SETENV 'GTK_RC_FILES=/etc/gtk/gtkrc:/home/david/.gtkrc:/home/david/.trinity/share/config/gtkrc' from tdelauncher. [tdeinit] Got SETENV 'GTK2_RC_FILES=/home/david/.gtkrc-2.0-kde-kde4:/home/david/.trinity/share/config/gtkrc-2.0' from tdelauncher. Huh? Why is anything trying to set a directory on my system with "kde4" in its name?? If we are renaming things to make tde its own, then that is certainly the type of thing that would be OK to rename... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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