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Porting remaining KDE3 (window) styles
by Hunter Graham 18 Oct '23

18 Oct '23

Haldo! Long time user, first time poster! It's weird looking back at all the different windows decorations and styles for KDE 3, knowing full well how much they not only had to be designed, but also coded. It's also weird knowing that some Trinity users haven't been exposed to some of these, however impractical or redundant they may be. xD Me personally, I've been wanting to get the Fahrenheit windeco working in TDE (and not through lack of trying, mind you -- I really tried to figuring out porting, thank you to the wiki contributors, though I've not had much success. Possibly out of general inexperience with porting, makefiles, and development in general, but I digress....) To be honest, I want to get the community's (or at least the devel list's) opinion on how feasible they think it is to get all the other Qt3 and KWin styles ported over to Trinity. I imagine the best starting point for this would be within openSUSE for a couple reasons: - their interoperability with multiple distros and their respective package formats - the fact that (as of this message) they still maintain a KDE3 repo, even in 2023 with Plasma 6 on its way - some windecos don't have much documentation outside of guesswork and the obvious "made over a decade ago for a much different version" disclaimer (...hello again, Fahrenheit!) Of course, my programming experience only extends beyond my use of Scratch as an elementary school young-un in the late-aughts, so I honestly don't know -- wdyt? - hunter graham

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TDE pinentry and recent changes
by deloptes 15 Oct '23

15 Oct '23

Hi Michele, Slavek, all, The recent changes QT_* -> TQT_* in headers (example Q_EXPORT -> TQ_EXPORT) are impacting the pinentry application. I remember we discussed once how we'll proceed with updates, but I do not recall. I could prepare the patches and probably push upstream. What is your view on this matter? thanks in advance BR E. -- FCD6 3719 0FFB F1BF 38EA 4727 5348 5F1F DCFE BCB0

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trinity-arts
by Felix Miata 14 Oct '23

14 Oct '23

Recent KDE3s no longer require *arts*. Why does TDE? As if alsa shouldn't be enough to start with on Linux, most newer installations have been moving from pulseaudio to pipewire/plumber. What is it that arts offers? Doesn't its presence get tangled with pulse/pipe? -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata

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TDE desktop-base Debian package
by deloptes 10 Oct '23

10 Oct '23

Hi, in packaging the metapackage for desktop-base somehow has more than the debian directory. Is it an error in the master repo or in my local copy and how to repair? tde/1_git/tde/packaging/debian/_base/metapackages/desktop-base$ ls backgrounds debian-desktop-logo.png debian-reference.desktop emblems kompmgr-rc-files Makefile profiles splashy usplash debian debian-homepage.desktop debian-security.desktop gnome-backgrounds.xml ksplash-theme pixmaps splash tdm-theme -- FCD6 3719 0FFB F1BF 38EA 4727 5348 5F1F DCFE BCB0

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Re: disappearing Konsole text during copy for pasting
by Felix Miata 04 Oct '23

04 Oct '23

Felix Miata composed on 2023-08-14 02:22 (UTC-0400): > This has been going on too long to remember, probably more than a year now, but at > least since 14.0.13. I haven't been able to create a reliable reproduction > scenario. Typically, I start a session that has remembered Konsole (at 0,0) with a > plain shell tab and an MC tab. With quite some frequency, I wish to copy and paste > the first command of the session, and its output, that I have entered in the shell > tab, into some text file in MC. The problem is that swiping the mouse from bottom > to top to select that output commonly blanks the first Konsole line, which is > usually something that produces multiple lines of text output, such as inxi, so > that when pasted, the first line of the paste is also blank. The instant case > causing me to write this is in Mageia 8/14.1.0, but it IIRC it happens in Debian, > Fedora, openSUSE & *buntu also. FTR, this definitely is happening in Trixie. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata

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[fedora] fixme fixme fixme
by Felix Miata 21 Sep '23

21 Sep '23

Attached tdm.log is from Fedora 39. In past several years through last spring, I've had nominal trouble running the TDE for latest release on whatever release is upcoming, in this case, F38>F39. This one on Kaby Lake host ab250 won't more than pretend to start a TDE session either from startx or TDM. Attempting to start one brings some screen flashing, then TDM returns. Selecting IceWM session instead of TDE produces same result. I find no clues to session failure in journal, dmesg, Xorg.X.log or .xsession-errors, while tdm.log grows from 0 to nearly 40k from just starting, before any attempt to login. An unlogged clue may be seen in session type selection: no matter what is selected for current session (attempt), on the next return to session selection, "previous" remains where it was before the upgrade from F38 to F39, on the second of the two TDEs, right above failsafe. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata

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Crash Handler can never send crash reports to Trinity
by J Leslie Turriff 12 Sep '23

12 Sep '23

This has been an irritation for a long time, but various components of TDE are crashing more and more frequently on my machine, and the Crash Handler is never able to send its reports to you. I have attached what the Crash Handler says whenever I try. Has this method of reporting failures become obsolete? If so, why is the code still there, misleading users who try to report failures? Leslie -- Platform: Linux Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.4 - x86_64 Desktop Environment: Trinity Qt: 3.5.0 TDE: R14.1.0 tde-config: 1.0

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Adding portals.conf(5) to desktop environments
by Mike Bird 08 Sep '23

08 Sep '23

I don't know enough about TDE development to know if you TDE developers need to be aware of this but I thought I should post it here just in case. https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2023/08/msg00311.html Thanks for all you do! --Mike

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Code to list Konqueror windows and tabs
by Ran Talbott 22 Aug '23

22 Aug '23

One of my hobbies is online debating on a variety of subjects. I have separate directories for many topics with downloaded data, notes, etc. I also usually have multiple programming projects active, most with their own directories. I prefer to keep tabs open for active topics and projects, rather than constantly closing them and re-navigating as I change focus. For Firefox, I have a Python program that can list all open windows and tabs, or find the window that has a particular tab. I'd like to do the same thing for Konqueror. Is there a system call (preferably with a Python API, but I have experience in lots of languages) that will give me a list of Konqueror windows and tabs? Also, is there an API for a list of Konsole windows? I'd like to do a command that would grep the window list and pop up the relevant window. Thanks, Ran

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[suse] TCC gtk styles & fonts - GTK2 Styles failure
by Felix Miata 03 Aug '23

03 Aug '23

# inxi -S System: Host: msi85 Kernel: 5.14.21-150500.55.12-default arch: x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Trinity Distro: openSUSE Leap 15.5 GTK2 Styles section radio buttons are not selectable. "Warning: The GTK2-TQt theme engine is not installed. This means you will not be able to use your TDE style in GTK2 applications." Link follows: "GTK2-TQt theme engine homepage" which when selected tries to open in Konq: http://gtk-qt.ecs.soton.ac.uk/ This results in server timeout in Konq and SeaMonkey, and site cannot be reached error in Chromium. No package seems to be available to match the description "GTK2-TQt theme engine": # zypper se -s tqt | grep gine i+ | trinity-gtk3-tqt-engine | package | 2:0.5-14.1.0_1.oss155 | x86_64 | TDE | trinity-gtk3-tqt-engine-debuginfo | package | 2:0.5-14.1.0_1.oss155 | x86_64 | TDE | trinity-gtk3-tqt-engine-debugsource | package | 2:0.5-14.1.0_1.oss155 | x86_64 | TDE # Is this a known issue? Can some file from an older installation be copied, e.g. to /usr/local/? -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata

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