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Re: [trinity-devel] R14 press information
by Darrell Anderson 06 Jan '14

06 Jan '14

>BTW, can I help with some non-programmer tasks? If so, show me >where... I listed several in my previous post. If you want to review top level handbooks, the wiki, etc., just send comments to this list. Usually I handle the handbook changes, but anybody with an account can edit the wiki. By 'top level' handbooks, I am referring to the first four links in the help handbook, when opening the handbook directly from the launcher menu. Likewise with the wiki. You don't have to edit but reviews are needed to start updating. Post comments to this list. :) Darrell

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Re: [trinity-devel] R14 press information
by Darrell Anderson 06 Jan '14

06 Jan '14

>Just points to consider from the article. I think this can go for >any >software (Windows and Mac included). Since I am not a developer >and >don't have to do releases, I never thought about what the >journalist >was saying. We have an etherpad where we already collect this information, including a draft press release and press contacts. More than help with those tasks, we need help with the following: * Reviewing top level help handbooks. * Reviewing the proposed R14 README. * Further testing of the r14-xdg-update script. * Reviewing and updating the wiki. * Reorganizing a web site that is functional yet needs a little "pizzazz." R14 is a big release, especially from a public relations perspective, and adding fresh polish to the web site would coincide nicely with the R14 release. * For coders, helping with those bug reports listed in the etherpad that have been identified as R14 "blockers." * Testing patches that are already attached to bug reports. * Developing a detailed wiki page for compiling LibreOffice with Trinity dialogs. Darrell

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Final inspection for KDE-TDE/kde/tde rebranding issues
by Darrell Anderson 06 Jan '14

06 Jan '14

All, I would like to inspect source tree text strings for instances of KDE/kde rebranding issues and update to TDE/tde. Mostly in tooltips and What's This help strings. My challenge is being able to efficiently grep only those strings, which often in the sources are multiple lines. I would appreciate shell scripting advice to find such text strings. Thanks! Darrell

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tdebindings renaming/rebranding patch
by Darrell Anderson 06 Jan '14

06 Jan '14

All, I have a massive tdebindings renaming/rebranding patch that I have been testing for several weeks. The patch renames the following: Text references of KDE->TDE Source directories kde*->tde*: kdejava->tdejava kdedcop*->tdedcop* etc. I do not experience any build failures or warning or error messages during the build. The patch is almost 30MB and too large to attach to a bug report. Push to git? Darrell

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Re: [trinity-devel] R14 press information
by Darrell Anderson 06 Jan '14

06 Jan '14

>Here is a lin[k] to said press kit: > >https://github.com/openSUSE/Press-Kit/zipball/12.3 > >Note that it is 37 MB. Downloaded. Thank you! Darrell

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Need git HELP - switch_all_ script completely messes up local copy
by David C. Rankin 31 Dec '13

31 Dec '13

Guys, I have used the switch_all_submodules_to_head_and_clean script to update repositories that were about a year old. This has totally messed up my local copies. Please note: I DO NOT HAVE ANY LOCAL CHANGES. I JUST WANT TO PULL A FRESH COPY OF NEW/CHANGED FILES FROM THE SERVER. After running the switch_all script 'git status' shows: $ git status # On branch master # Your branch and 'origin/master' have diverged, # and have 8438 and 3318 different commits each, respectively. # # Unmerged paths: # (use "git reset HEAD <file>..." to unstage) # (use "git add <file>..." to mark resolution) # # added by us: submodules # # Changes not staged for commit: # (use "git add <file>..." to update what will be committed) # (use "git checkout -- <file>..." to discard changes in working directory) # (commit or discard the untracked or modified content in submodules) # # modified: main/applications/abakus (modified content) # modified: main/applications/adept (modified content) # modified: main/applications/amarok (modified content) # modified: main/applications/basket (modified content) # modified: main/applications/bibletime (modified content) # modified: main/applications/compizconfig-backend-kconfig (modified content) # modified: main/applications/desktop-effects-tde (modified content) # modified: main/applications/digikam (modified content) # modified: main/applications/dolphin (modified content) # modified: main/applications/filelight (modified content) # modified: main/applications/fusion-icon (modified content) # modified: main/applications/gtk-qt-engine (modified content) # modified: main/applications/gwenview (modified content) # modified: main/applications/k3b (modified content) # modified: main/applications/k9copy (modified content) # modified: main/applications/kaffeine (modified content) # modified: main/applications/kaffeine-mozilla (modified content) # modified: main/applications/katapult (modified content) # modified: main/applications/kbarcode (modified content) # modified: main/applications/kbfx (modified content) # modified: main/applications/kbookreader (modified content) # modified: main/applications/kchmviewer (modified content) # modified: main/applications/kcpuload (modified content) # modified: main/applications/kdbusnotification (modified content) # modified: main/applications/kdiff3 (modified content) # modified: main/applications/kdirstat (modified content) # modified: main/applications/kdmtheme (modified content) # modified: main/applications/kdpkg (modified content) # modified: main/applications/keep (modified content) # modified: main/applications/kerry (modified content) # modified: main/applications/kgtk-qt3 (modified content) # modified: main/applications/kile (modified content) # modified: main/applications/kima (modified content) # modified: main/applications/kio-apt (modified content) # modified: main/applications/kio-locate (modified content) # modified: main/applications/kio-umountwrapper (modified content) # modified: main/applications/kiosktool (modified content) # modified: main/applications/kmplayer (modified content) # modified: main/applications/kmyfirewall (modified content) # modified: main/applications/kmymoney (modified content) # modified: main/applications/knemo (modified content) # modified: main/applications/knetload (modified content) # modified: main/applications/knetstats (modified content) # modified: main/applications/knetworkmanager8 (modified content) # modified: main/applications/knetworkmanager9 (modified content) # modified: main/applications/knights (modified content) # modified: main/applications/knowit (modified content) # modified: main/applications/knutclient (modified content) # modified: main/applications/koffice (modified content) # modified: main/applications/konversation (modified content) # modified: main/applications/kopete-otr (modified content) # modified: main/applications/kpicosim (modified content) # modified: main/applications/kpilot (modified content) # modified: main/applications/kpowersave (modified content) # modified: main/applications/kradio (modified content) # modified: main/applications/krename (modified content) # modified: main/applications/krusader (modified content) # modified: main/applications/ksplash-engine-moodin (modified content) # modified: main/applications/ksquirrel (modified content) # modified: main/applications/kstreamripper (modified content) # modified: main/applications/ksystemlog (modified content) # modified: main/applications/ktechlab (modified content) # modified: main/applications/ktorrent (modified content) # modified: main/applications/kuickshow (modified content) # modified: main/applications/kvirc (modified content) # modified: main/applications/kvkbd (modified content) # modified: main/applications/piklab (modified content) # modified: main/applications/potracegui (modified content) # modified: main/applications/rosegarden (modified content) # modified: main/applications/smartcardauth (modified content) # modified: main/applications/smb4k (modified content) # modified: main/applications/soundkonverter (modified content) # modified: main/applications/tde-guidance (modified content) # modified: main/applications/tde-style-lipstik (modified content) # modified: main/applications/tde-style-qtcurve (modified content) # modified: main/applications/tde-systemsettings (modified content) # modified: main/applications/tdesudo (modified content) # modified: main/applications/tdesvn (modified content) # modified: main/applications/tellico (modified content) # modified: main/applications/twin-style-crystal (modified content) # modified: main/applications/wlassistant (modified content) # modified: main/applications/yakuake (modified content) # modified: main/dependencies/arts (modified content) # modified: main/dependencies/dbus-1-tqt (modified content) # modified: main/dependencies/dbus-tqt (modified content) # modified: main/dependencies/tqtinterface (modified content) # modified: main/libraries/kipi-plugins (modified content) # modified: main/libraries/libkdcraw (modified content) # modified: main/libraries/libkexiv2 (modified content) # modified: main/libraries/libkipi (modified content) # modified: main/libraries/libksquirrel (modified content) # modified: main/libraries/mlt (modified content) # modified: main/libraries/mlt++ (modified content) # modified: main/libraries/pytdeextensions (modified content) # modified: main/libraries/python-trinity (modified content) # modified: main/tde-i18n (modified content) # modified: main/tdeaccessibility (modified content) # modified: main/tdeaddons (modified content) # modified: main/tdeadmin (modified content) # modified: main/tdeartwork (modified content) # modified: main/tdebase (modified content) # modified: main/tdebindings (modified content) # modified: main/tdeedu (modified content) # modified: main/tdegames (modified content) # modified: main/tdegraphics (modified content) # modified: main/tdelibs (modified content) # modified: main/tdemultimedia (modified content) # modified: main/tdenetwork (modified content) # modified: main/tdepim (modified content) # modified: main/tdesdk (modified content) # modified: main/tdetoys (modified content) # modified: main/tdeutils (modified content) # modified: main/tdevelop (modified content) # modified: main/tdewebdev (modified content) # no changes added to commit (use "git add" and/or "git commit -a") On a second box after trying all the suggested "git add" and "git commit -a", I am left with: 11:25 providence:~/tde/tde> git status # On branch master # Your branch and 'origin/master' have diverged, # and have 9509 and 3318 different commits each, respectively. # # Changes not staged for commit: # (use "git add <file>..." to update what will be committed) # (use "git checkout -- <file>..." to discard changes in working directory) # (commit or discard the untracked or modified content in submodules) # # modified: experimental (new commits) # modified: main/applications/kdmtheme (modified content) # modified: main/applications/kio-apt (modified content) # modified: main/applications/kio-locate (modified content) # modified: main/applications/kio-umountwrapper (modified content) # modified: main/applications/knetworkmanager9 (modified content) # modified: main/applications/kpowersave-nohal (modified content) # modified: main/applications/kradio (modified content) # no changes added to commit (use "git add" and/or "git commit -a") But nothing else will help for those files. Further, the content of the local copy does not match the content on http://git.trinitydesktop.org/cgit/scripts/tree/ 11:28 providence:~/tde/tde> ll scripts/ total 24 -rwxr-xr-x 1 david david 1571 Dec 31 01:17 commit_all_submodules -rw-r--r-- 1 david david 128 Dec 31 01:17 README -rwxr-xr-x 1 david david 1463 Dec 31 01:17 switch_all_submodules_to_head_and_clean -rwxr-xr-x 1 david david 1940 Dec 31 01:17 update_all_submodules I have tried every from of git commit command either (1) suggested by git in the error messages or (2) from https://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/user-manual.html#resolving… Nothing works. Why does the switch script not simply: "throw away any changes and get a fresh copy of the source" That is exactly what I want to do -- how can I do that? I do not want to waste the bandwidth to pull new copies of the code on 3 different servers, but I've exhausted all suggestions I can find. How do I fix this? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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Re: [trinity-devel] Where are we capturing suggested default config changes?
by Darrell Anderson 31 Dec '13

31 Dec '13

> I was unclear. I was looking for a wiki page where we could post >suggested >changes to default values for apps, etc.. such as akregatorrc: > >[Browser] >Close Button On Tabs=true That kind of discussion probably is deep in the mail list archives or an etherpad. File an enhancement request and explain why the change should be made. :) Darrell

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Re: [trinity-devel] Minimum Trinity system requirements
by Darrell Anderson 31 Dec '13

31 Dec '13

>In preparation for the R14.0.0 release, we would like to establish > >minimum system requirements for installing and running Trinity. >Please refrain from "by gosh, by gum" guessing. :-) Please only >share real-world experiences using Trinity with older hardware and > >distros as well as limited environments, such as the Raspberry Pi >or ARM. > >We don't want to create absurd minimum requirements as has >popular. >We want to establish realistic minimum requirements. > >Thank you! Tim has been fine-tuning Trinity code based upon his own testing of a Raspberry Pi and me with a PI and PII. We've been conducting these tests for about two weeks. My test specs: PI: 400 MHz K6-III+, 256 MB RAM (the maximum possible), ATA hard drive, 66 MHz FSB, Diamond Stealth 3000 3D video card (4 MB RAM). This was my primary system at the turn of the century. :) PII: 350 MHz Deschutes CPU, 448 MB RAM (expandable only to 768 MB), ATA hard drive, 100 MHz FSB, Creative Banshee AGP (16 MB RAM). Direct rendering actually works on this first generation AGP card. :) Precise scientific testing method: stopwatch and eyeballs. :) In my original tests with the PI and PII, the original Trinity startup time was about 1:45. Tests as of today are down to about 1:05. All of the recent testing and patching is, very much, a success. Other tests were performed but that one result indicates the improvements. Bottom line is Trinity is usable on the PI and PII. For sure I would not want to use these systems all day, yet at least Trinity is palatable on these clunkers. :) As noted previously in this list, the PI and PII are not energy efficient. Much of the time they sit powered off under my desk, but they both serve handily as good hardware to test various aspects of Trinity and corner cases. With this testing we now have a good idea how Trinity performs at the bottom of the hardware barrel. Considering that KDE4 and GNOME are unlikely to run on such systems, that leaves Trinity, Xfce, LXDE/Razor-qt, and E17 as the remaining desktop candidates for REALLY old hardware. That said, window managers likely are optimal at the PI/PII level (not to mention that tasks such as online video and audio streaming will really test a person's patience). Although arguably we showed that a PI or PII could suffice as minimum system requirements, real-world observations indicate such claims should be as a sidenote. If anybody has a P3 available and some time, testing would be welcomed as to whether we can establish a P3 as an reasonable real- world minimum for system requirements. My testing was as simple as this: Trinity startup time. Starting preloaded konqueror. Starting konsole. Alt+F2 dialog. Starting kate. Starting kcontrol. Alt+F1 menu. Darrell

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Re: [trinity-devel] Where are we capturing suggested default config changes?
by Darrell Anderson 31 Dec '13

31 Dec '13

> At one time we had discussed updating various defaults for >keystrokes, etc. I >have run across an Akregator default change and can't find where >we were listing >them. If I correctly understand your question, most defaults are found in *.ui files. For akregator there are several: tdepim/akregator/src/settings_archive.ui tdepim/akregator/src/settings_appearance.ui tdepim/akregator/src/mk4storage/mk4confwidgetbase.ui tdepim/akregator/src/tagpropertieswidgetbase.ui tdepim/akregator/src/settings_browser.ui tdepim/akregator/src/settings_advancedbase.ui tdepim/akregator/src/propertieswidgetbase.ui tdepim/akregator/src/addfeedwidgetbase.ui tdepim/akregator/src/settings_general.ui Darrell

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Where are we capturing suggested default config changes?
by David C. Rankin 31 Dec '13

31 Dec '13

All, At one time we had discussed updating various defaults for keystrokes, etc. I have run across an Akregator default change and can't find where we were listing them. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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