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Re: [trinity-devel] LibreOffice and Trinity dialogs
by Darrell Anderson 29 Dec '13

29 Dec '13

>Some time ago I tested LibreOffice with TDE integration as >available in >LibreOffice-tde PPA on the build-farm. > >I tested version 4.0.3-14 on Debian Wheezy i386 and was very >unuseable. >On the File/Open nothing happened. On the File/Save as occurred >freezing >LibreOffice. I was forced to upgrade to LibreOffice from wheezy- >backports >(4.1.2-2~bpo70+1 without TDE integration). > >Then I tested version 4.0.2-0ubuntu4 on Ubuntu Saucy amd64 and >there >everything worked smoothly. The latest stable is 4.1.4. We should support that. Yesterday I started trying to build LO. A dependency nightmare even after I found a good build script to start with. The 4.1.4 build halts early with failures related to TDE. I was up way too late last night and did not copy the failure message, but I am reasonably sure the failure message means we need to patch the LO 4.1.4 sources. Building LO with Trinity dialogs is going to be a never-ending shuffle to keep LO patched. Nobody upstream is going to do that or even care. Keeping LO patched falls on us. Considering that compiling needs several hours, I ask that we build LO on the server farm and then package as an rpm just like the LO folks do. All Trinity packagers then can take that standard rpm and repackage for their own distro. Building on the server farm will not be a nightly affair. Only build as needed when each new LO version is released. Perhaps two or three times a year. Building on the server farm also guarantees all Trinity packagers that LO is built correctly and provides a common method for all Trinity users to test and validate the Trinity dialogs. As the final LO package is a monster 120+ MB, to control bandwidth we could make the final package available only Trinity packagers and developers. For those who still want to build LO from source with Trinity dialogs, at the wiki we should provide a build script template, a list of required dependencies, a link to git of the respective patches for each LO release version. Right now our draft press release claim of Trinity dialog support is vaporware, at least until we can prove others can build LO successfully with the dialogs. Thoughts? Darrell

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Re: [trinity-devel] Dependency issues
by Darrell Anderson 29 Dec '13

29 Dec '13

>Since none of the Ubuntu isos worked, I tried installing TDE by >installing an Lubuntu 12.04 cd. Install worked great, updates >worked >great, then I followed the instructions here: > >http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/UbuntuBin >aryInstallation > >When I tried installing the packages, A LOT of dependency problems >came up. Am I missing anything? Installing TDE has never been a >pain. >I'm converting a Windows user to Linux and I need this computer >working. > >Can someone help? Hi Michael, Just so you know the list is not dead, but several of the main developers are Debian users. Hopefully one of them responds soon. Regarding the ISO not working, the URL looks familiar. I believe one of the Trinity community members hosts those images. At the moment I don't remember who. :( Just a note, perhaps consider installing pre R14 nightly packages rather than 3.5.13.2. R14 is real close to release and the packages are stable. Darrell

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Dependency issues
by Michael Henry 28 Dec '13

28 Dec '13

Since none of the Ubuntu isos worked, I tried installing TDE by installing an Lubuntu 12.04 cd. Install worked great, updates worked great, then I followed the instructions here: http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/UbuntuBinaryInsta… When I tried installing the packages, A LOT of dependency problems came up. Am I missing anything? Installing TDE has never been a pain. I'm converting a Windows user to Linux and I need this computer working. Can someone help? -- Bro. Michael Henry Associate Pastor Monticello Christian Church Be kinder than necessary. Everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. You never know when a moment and a few sincere words can have an impact on a life for a life

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Default Trinity R14 memory footprint
by Darrell Anderson 28 Dec '13

28 Dec '13

I did this on three different systems, all with different hardware. I started Trinity and accepted all defaults for a fresh profile. I then exited Trinity and rebooted each machine. I logged in (command line), flushed the kernel cache, ran free, started Trinity, opened konsole, flushed the kernel cache, and ran free. The default memory Trinity footprints, which excludes the memory usage before starting Trinity and includes the native video drivers: * 111184 KB * 119536 KB * 134876 KB Notes: I did not disable apps autostarted from $HOME/.config/autostart or disable the native video drivers. Thus the first two results on old hardware are closest to the actual default Trinity R14 footprint. Darrell

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Re: [trinity-devel] LibreOffice and Trinity dialogs
by Darrell Anderson 28 Dec '13

28 Dec '13

>Each distribution each platform takes about 4.5 hours. >Except armel, where it takes about a month ;) What a monster! :) Darrell

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Re: [trinity-devel] LibreOffice and Trinity dialogs
by Darrell Anderson 28 Dec '13

28 Dec '13

>--enable-tde. TDEDIR and friends are the appropriate environment >variables to use. I downloaded the LO sources and walked through the patch stored in 'thirdparty'. As far as I can tell, the patch no longer is needed. Am I correct? Seems all that is needed is --enable-tde and as a precaution, in the build script ensure $TDEDIR, $QTDIR, $QTINC, and $QTLIB are exported to the build environment. Am I correct? There also is a --enable-tdeab option to ensure Trinity addressbook support, but I did not look into that deeply. The option might be enabled by default when --enable-tde is enabled. For a reference point, how long does LO take to compile on your systems? Darrell

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Re: [trinity-devel] Copying/Moving/Deleting files in TDE
by Darrell Anderson 28 Dec '13

28 Dec '13

>since last September (October?) when I copy/move/delete files I >see a window like the one in the attached picture. >I recall in the past I used to see a window with a progress bar >and some buttons, likely containing the same information but much >nicer. >Any idea? No idea. I don not recall ever seeing that particular dialog. :( Darrell

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[trinity-devel] Kubuntu CD not installing
by Michael Henry 28 Dec '13

28 Dec '13

I downloaded the Ubuntu 12.04 from http://ftp.fau.de/trinity/cdimages/kubuntu/precise/tde-3.5.13.2-ubuntu-12.0… It loads up and runs perfectly. The ubuntu installer refuses to work. I try to run it and it acts like it will and then it stops. Running from the command line is the same with no errors. Any suggestions. -- Bro. Michael Henry Associate Pastor Monticello Christian Church Be kinder than necessary. Everyone you meet is fighting some kind of battle. You never know when a moment and a few sincere words can have an impact on a life for a life

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Re: [trinity-devel] LibreOffice and Trinity dialogs
by Darrell Anderson 28 Dec '13

28 Dec '13

>What LO build script options are needed? Is something like one of >the following needed: > >--enable-kde >--enable-kde3 >--enable-qt >--enable-qt3 >--enable-tqt Also, what environment variables are needed? From what I have found onthe web, KDE4 dialog support needs the following: export KDE4DIR="$KDEDIRS" export QT4INC="$QT4DIR/include" export QT4LIB="$QT4DIR/lib${LIBDIRSUFFIX}" Do we need something similar? Would LO be looking for "KDE3" environment variables or "Trinity" variables? export KDEDIR="$KDEDIR" export QTINC="$QTDIR/include" export QTLIB="$QTDIR/lib${LIBDIRSUFFIX}" OR export TDEDIR="$TDEDIR" export TQTINC="$TQTDIR/include" export TQTLIB="$TQTDIR/lib${LIBDIRSUFFIX}" Darrell

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Re: [trinity-devel] Copying/Moving/Deleting files in TDE
by Darrell Anderson 27 Dec '13

27 Dec '13

>If yes, select "Konqueror / Settings / Behaviour", uncheck "Show >network operations in a single window" Huh. I learn something new every day.... Darrell

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