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Experiences installing TDE - some comments for TDE improvements
by Alexis PM 15 Nov '12

15 Nov '12

Hello In order to help improve TDE, I want to tell my experiences with TDE starting from a clean install of Debian Squeeze minimal (within X) from the viewpoint of a Spanish desktop user. The problems, pitfalls or things I've found are improving (I report all as bugs in the bug tracker to be systematic): 1. Trinity Webpage could be translated into several languages without much problem, I think there are collaborators with enough time and desire to make it viable. A call to collaborators through the mailing list to create working groups could be. I offer to help as Spanish-spoken. http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1220 2. Debian installation intructions improvements: * Refers to "sudo", but Debian as a "su" distro by default, like most distros. If you're a newbie and follow to the letter the instructions, the lines with "sudo" not work * Lack reference to the translation packages, example "For Spanish translate, apt-get install kde-trinity-i18n-es" * For laptops, kpowersave-trinity is essential, it shoul be indicate in the intructions as "if you have a laptop..." or similar. * A graphical network manager as network-manager-kde-trinity is very util, it shoul be indicate in the intructions as "if you want to have a graphical network manager and you are not using a other as wicd, you..." or similar. May notice about network-manager versions incompatible with network-manager-kde-trinity. http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1221 3. Applications of interest: * Kmix should be in the System Tray. I don't report, I think is reported in http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=503 * IMHO k3b-trinity and kima-trinity should be in the default TDE installation, are useful for the general public. http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1222 4. Kpersonalizer: * Keramic theme is broken, not see the title bar of the windows or close/maximize /minimize buttons. http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1223 * Kpersonalizer is partially in English despite having chosen Spanish. I can help with it. http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1225 * Keyboard in English despite having chosen Spanish in Kpersonalizer. I have to do KControl > Keyboard Layout > Enable keyboard layout & Show indicator for single layout. http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1224 5. Parts of the system are in English, lack of a complete Spanish translations. For example, "Hibernate computer" and "Suspend computer" in the "End session" window. I can help with it. http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1225 6. KDM problems: * KDM don't draw well the background, artifacts can be seen. I think I solved it with KControl > System admin > Login manager > Apparance > Compositor: Trinity compositor. If choosing Trinity Compositor solve the problem, the package should be reconfigured to do it by default. http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1226 * "Finish actual session" in "End session" window dialog don't work, just a black screen appears instead of KDM. Doing Ctrl-Alt-F1 & Ctrl-Alt-F6, the KDM window is visible very briefly. I read something similar, related with graphic card (this is a Nvidia, and use the nouveau driver), I don't know. Related: In Exe GNU/Linux, a Debian live CD distro with TDE as desktop environment: * In a live session, if you choose "Change session" in the TDE exit dialog, you find a KDM login window answer you about user name and password - could be auto-restart the TDE desktop * In a HD-installation session, the KDM login window option "Reboot" don't work, the system stays in terminal login (you can insert your user name and password, and the system remains in terminal modex", you can use "startx" :P ) http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1227 Possible related with http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59 and http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=419 7. Sudo problems: In a recent mail ( "Clean TDE of Kubuntu references", http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/?0::9879 ) I did a review of the problems derivated of the Ubuntu reminiscences dragged by TDE project, as sudo-dependence of TDE nonexistent in the KDE 3.5 original. A set of new sudo-related bugs: * Konsole as SuperUser: T > System > SuperUser > Konsole: a Konsole window appears ask for "[sudo] password for [user]" - it is a Debian (no-sudo) system, therefore neither user password (user is not in /etc/sudoers) neither root password (demand sudo) work. Konqueror as root in the "T > System > SuperUser" dialog works well. http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1228 * In T > System, other applications as KPackage open, but for a action ask for "SUDO password", and again neither user password neither root password work. But KUser in T > System work well with root password. http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1229 * I installed Synaptic. But Synaptic in T > System don't work to enter the root password. Synaptic via "Run command" answer "KDEInit could not launch 'su-to-root': could not find 'su-to-root' executable". However, "kdesu synaptic" works well. http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1230 8. I suggest the following changes in file associations (in Konqueror: Preferences > Configure Konqueror) * Kwrite instead of Kate for plain-text files - I think Kwrite is simpler * Iceweasel instead of Konqueror for HTML files http://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1231 Thanks!

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Accelerator key hiding option
by Darrell Anderson 15 Nov '12

15 Nov '12

Tim, Regarding the patches in commits d50125d0 and bbd076f4 from 2012-08-13 to control whether the underscore mnemonics are visible in the menu bar. I tested this option and saw no difference. The underscores are always visible. Restarting Trinity has no effect. The underlying kstylerc config file is being updated. Does (T)Qt3 need to be built with a special config option to enable that function? Darrell

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KDE Profile /etc/kde-profile/
by Jean Milot 15 Nov '12

15 Nov '12

Hello, I use kde profile in order to manage menu, wallpaper ... and i would like tu use the env folder. If i create : $HOME/.trinirty/env/locale.sh, it works but not in the kde profile. I have found in the startkde where $HOME/.trinity/env, /opt/trinity/env where used but not my profile folder. Thanks for your help. Sincerely, -- MILOT Jean Tél. : 0659514624 milot.jean(a)gmail.com

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Will be the Qt3 API compatibility kept in the further qt releases?
by Fat-Zer 13 Nov '12

13 Nov '12

<Subj> I'm asking because it seems to be broken already broken in git at least in the QStyle module... If it's so and have been already discussed, can you give me a link on those discussions...

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TDE Internet Daemon
by Darrell Anderson 12 Nov '12

12 Nov '12

With a fresh build set from Saturday Nov. 10, I am unable to start the KDED TDE Internet Daemon. I receive a dialog "Unable to start service." Anybody able to confirm this bug? Thanks. Darrell

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Latest GIT
by Darrell Anderson 12 Nov '12

12 Nov '12

I built a new package set based upon GIT short version 8565 from yesterday (Saturday Nov. 10). The menu item highlighting seems fixed both in Trinity and non Trinity apps. The broken Alt key seems fixed in Trinity apps but not in non Trinity apps, or at least not in Firefox. That is, sequentially pressing Alt, F does not open the File menu. I need to concurrently press Alt+F in Firefox. Sequential pressing of Alt, F works in Trinity apps. I don't know where the problem might be to help debug. Darrell

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cmake bug with 64-bit?
by Darrell Anderson 11 Nov '12

11 Nov '12

Serghei, The check_include_file macro in tdegraphics/ksvg/ConfigureChecks.cmake seems to fail on 64-bit systems. Please read bug report 1311: http://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=1311#c9 Any ideas? Thanks. Darrell

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New backend for the media:/ kioslave
by Timothy Pearson 11 Nov '12

11 Nov '12

All, I recently pushed a new (alpha quality) backend for the media:/ kioslave which uses udev/pmount and therefore does not rely on HAL. I encourage developers here to try it out! Please report failures to this list, not to the bugtracker, as it has not been tested much beyond mounting simple flash drives. Encryption support is buggy, but repairing it is my next task. Rhis will NOT be made default for R14.0 due to the vast array of hardware that it still needs to be tested on, but if your distribution no longer works with HAL it may be better than nothing even in this alpha form. To enable it, pass the -DWITH_TDEHWLIB="on" option to tdebase CMake. Enjoy! Tim

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kconfig_compiler -> tdeconfig_compiler
by Darrell Anderson 11 Nov '12

11 Nov '12

I want to resolve bug report 1116, to rename kconfig_compiler -> tdeconfig_compiler. An efficient way to do that is to issue a dev mail list warning not to build from GIT for 48 hours. The reason is the majority of changes are in the common admin and cmake files, which are replicated to all modules automatically at night at the main GIT server. Pushing those admin and cmake patches and waiting overnight for the server to update will reduce the amount of patching required in all modules. Any objections to this approach? Darrell

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Trouble compiling avahi
by Jay 10 Nov '12

10 Nov '12

I am using Trinity in an environment with no kde4 and hence no qt4. Everything is compiled with /usr prefix. I am also using a slackware 14.0 base. I need to compile avahi so as to give konqueror zeroconf support but here is where i run into a predicament. Avahi looks for moc-qt3 and moc (during compilation) and since these have become moc-tqt and tmoc it does not find them. Can anyone experienced with building on slack14 give me an idea how to get around this?

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