> Yes. TDE will (as of a couple days ago) build completely against tqt3,
> theoretically resolving any remaining Qt3<-->Qt4 conflicts and allowing
> the usage of Qt4 directly in new (or manually ported) TDE code. Since I
> can hear people's confusion now, this ONLY ALLOWS NEWLY-WRITTEN QT4-BASED
> CODE to be compiled and linked into TDE applications--it does NOT
> magically make TDE compile on Qt4, nor will it ever. :-)
>
tdelibs doesn't build against tqt3:
Unable to find tqt!
Try adding the directory in which the tqt.pc file is located
Which is created by tqtinterface, but not tqt3. Since tqt3 doesn't
build with tqtinterface installed I don't see a correct way to build
tdelibs.
People, how do you build it??
Update git last night. Autobuild of tdeadmin now fails to find valid qt
version. I have /usr/lib/qt3-3.4 built from last nights update 14th Feb
2012. (Sorry i am not familiar with git jargon). Most other packages
compile.
CFLAGS=$CPUOPT \
CXXFLAGS=$CPUOPT \
./configure \
--prefix=${PREFIX} \
--sysconfdir=${SYSCONFDIR} \
--libdir=${LIBDIR} \
--mandir=${MANDIR} \
--with-qt-dir=${QTDIR} \
--with-qt-includes=${QTDIR}/include \
--with-qt-libraries=${QTDIR}/lib \
--enable-closure
checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (headers and
libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
I'm busy updating the TDE handbook files. Right now I'm working on the user guides. I'm progressing nicely. Revising text, submitting patches and new images to the bugzilla, repairing web links, etc. Eventually I'll post the user guides for reviews.
I'm writing notes to explain the processes used. Eventually I'll post that information too, either at the wiki or directly in a handbook help file.
As a technical writer, for many years I have grimaced every time I read the expressions "left mouse button," "right mouse button," "click," and "right-click." I frown when I read the word "click" rather than "select."
I'm not anal about language. I'm not a purist. I embrace the fact that languages and usage evolve. Yet I strive for technical correctness because communicating ideas is challenging. Skilled communicators say what they mean and mean what they say. :)
Those mouse related terms bother me from a technical correctness perspective. Why?
Because the terms are technically incorrect for people who use a mouse configured for left-handed use. That is, with the mouse button roles swapped. I should know --- I have used my mouse that way for almost two decades. I have a pretty good laugh every time people try to use a computer desktop I have configured. Swapping the buttons of the mouse confuses people like crazy because they never pay attention to the fact that my mouse is on the left side of my keyboard. :)
I have wondered through the years how such lazy street language terms translate into other languages.
The challenge most people counter is what terms to use as replacements?
The best I have conceived is "primary" and "secondary" buttons. Yet I realize some people might find those terms confusing too.
Should we talk about people who use three button mice? In the days before scroll wheels such mice existed --- I have one in my junk box. :) How about five button mice? Seven? When does "left" and "right" become meaningless? Should those terms be used at all?
I realize conventional usage often prevails but that does not mean those terms are technically correct. :)
I'd like to hear some other thoughts and opinions about the subject.
Darrell
Is there a stable tag for 3.5.13 in Git or somewhere else which I can
build without problems? I can't build trinity for about year! I want
to continue application development but these endless build issues
hold me stopped. There were once git branch somelike named v3.5.13,
but it weren't building smoothly anyway. Now 'git branch' command
shows nothing.
A hypothetical poll for users here....
If TDE were to close down, which desktop would you use instead? You would
be allowed to abandon Linux entirely in this scenario. ;-)
Please state why you have not already switched; i.e. what item are missing
or suboptimal in the other environment.
I am curious as to why TDE still exists and need some concrete examples to
fall back on to counter detractors.
Thanks!
Tim
Can we keep negativity to a minimum and find bugs to fix? Thanks.
One KDE developer/user's attitude does not represent the KDE community
as a whole (however influential).
Likewise, one TDE dev/user's attitude doesn't represent the Trinity
community as a whole.
So please, can we get along?
*(This is why I try not to participate in threads that could possibly
turn negative :|)
tl;dr: shut up, let feuds die, get along in peace. don't judge a book
by its cover.
--
later daze. :: Robert Xu :: protocol.by/rxu
Finally, tdesdk is completely buildable with cmake. Let me know if I missed
something.
PS Do not forget to use latest qt3 version, otherwise "kompare" will fail.
--
Serghei.
Re-send. Sent several hours ago 'from' the wrong email addy...
On Sat, 11 Feb 2012, Timothy Pearson wrote:
>A hypothetical poll for users here....
I was waiting to reply until a few other responses had come through.
Sometimes I need to others' comments to take note of: "Hey! That is
important to me, too."
However, this "Poll" topic has turned into a Troll Fest -- just like so
many other posting in "users" and "developers".
Especially "developers"!! Why!!!!
There would be FAR MORE PROGRESS in the continued development of
Trinity if the developers did not treat
trinity-devel(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net as a chat room where they felt
compelled to response to each and every troll!
Update your killfiles! Good grief, I have! But I'm forced to slog
through all the follow-on replies to the nonsense .
KDE4 should simply be OFF TOPIC -- along with prostate problems,
hemorrhoid afflictions, and microsoft business practices, etc., usw.
I would like to see the developers cranking out code and updates, and
NOT cranking out Troll bombs.
Anyway, that's _my_ opinion...
Maybe, once I've calmed down, I'll respond On Topic
to Tim's Poll inquiry.
sigh...
Jonesy
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