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Trinity End-User Documentation
by Darrell Anderson 09 Mar '11

09 Mar '11

I have close to 3 decades technical writing experience. Naturally, I have an interest in any documentation packaged with Trinity. :) The Help files need serious attention. In KDE 3.5.10 many Help files are out-of-date. Eventually we have to update those Help files. I don't know how the original Help files were maintained or created. I need help and direction with that. I want to see an overall user guide to Trinity. The guide would be available in two forms: HTML and PDF. The HTML version would be a desktop shortcut available to all users who first install Trinity and should be a menu option for those who delete the shortcut. I am willing to lead this part of the project. I face an immediate challenge: my background is overwhelmingly with paper products and not electronic. I need help and advice with the tools I need to learn to produce two different outputs (HTML and PDF). OpenOffice Writer (now LibreOffice) might be a choice, but I suspect the HTML output will leave much to be desired. Some sort of structured authoring front-end would makes sense (DocBook?), but that means a lot of sweat equity to massage the back end formatting. The system used to produce the original Help files might be a solution. I am open to ideas and discussion. Darrell

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kde-config -v reports incorrect qt version
by Darrell Anderson 09 Mar '11

09 Mar '11

Running "kde-config -v" reports I have qt-3.3.8b installed rather than 3.3.8c. Seems we should fix that for those who have run the 3.3.8c patch. :) Here is my attempt at patching the version. I recompiled qt and this patch worked for me. kde-config now reports 3.3.8c. Perhaps this patch should be merged with the existing 3.3.8c patch? Or just added to the wiki as a second patch? ===================================== diff -urN qt-x11-free-3.3.8b/changes-3.3.8c qt-x11-free-3.3.8b.new/changes-3.3.8c --- qt-x11-free-3.3.8b/changes-3.3.8c 1969-12-31 19:00:00.000000000 -0500 +++ qt-x11-free-3.3.8b.new/changes-3.3.8c 2011-03-09 11:51:42.720405330 -0600 @@ -0,0 +1 @@ +Qt 3.3.8c is a bug-fix release to support tqtinterface and cmake. diff -urN qt-x11-free-3.3.8b/src/tools/qglobal.h qt-x11-free-3.3.8b.new/src/tools/qglobal.h --- qt-x11-free-3.3.8b/src/tools/qglobal.h 2008-01-15 13:09:13.000000000 -0600 +++ qt-x11-free-3.3.8b.new/src/tools/qglobal.h 2011-03-09 11:52:07.822403718 -0600 @@ -41,7 +41,7 @@ #ifndef QGLOBAL_H #define QGLOBAL_H -#define QT_VERSION_STR "3.3.8b" +#define QT_VERSION_STR "3.3.8c" /* QT_VERSION is (major << 16) + (minor << 8) + patch. */ ===================================== Darrell

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Trinity tqtinterface version
by Darrell Anderson 09 Mar '11

09 Mar '11

/dependencies/tqtinterface/tqtinterface.lsm:Version: Trinity 3.5.12 /dependencies/tqtinterface/README: This is version 3.5.12 of the Trinity Qt Interface Should these be updated to 3.5.13? Darrell

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PyKDE3 FTBFS
by Darrell Anderson 09 Mar '11

09 Mar '11

I built and installed sip 4.12.1 and pyqt3 x11_gpl_3.18.1. Building pykde3 3.16.7 fails. I built these packages last autumn with no issues. I'm using upstream sources, same as last year. Here is a link to the build log: http://humanreadable.nfshost.com/files/pykde3-3.16.7-i486-1-build.log.gz I realize kdebindings is not essential to running Trinity. :) Darrell

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(4) basic kmenu fixes - (getting rid of 'More Applications')
by David C. Rankin 09 Mar '11

09 Mar '11

Guys, The following applications need to find homes in the menu. I have give proposed "move to" locations below. This shouldn't be confused with Kate's effort to revise the default entries. This is just to put the existing apps with no default kmenu location -- somewhere: Graphics \ More Applications \ kruler (move to Graphics) System \ More Applications \ File Manager - Super User Mode (move to System or System/Super-User) Terminal Program - Super User Mode (move to the same place) Utilities \ More Applications \ KFontView - Font Viewer (move to Graphics) Just fixing these 4 default entries will get rid of the 'More Applications' menu entries for these apps and give them a proper home in the menu. If somebody will point me to the right file where this takes place, I'll work on a patch. I suspect that the entry is specified somewhere in the individual app build directory. I'll look at kruler and see if I can find it. If you already know where the menu entries are set by default, please let me know. Thanks. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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patches: kmenu cleanup - kdelibs, kdebase, kdegraphics, kdepim
by David C. Rankin 09 Mar '11

09 Mar '11

Tim, Robert, Serghei, Ilya, all: Here are patches for kdelibs, kdebase, kdegraphics and kdepim that fix the kmenu applications entries that were ending up under "More Programs" submenus because they didn't have a home. The files affected are: kdelibs: kdelibs/kded/applications.menu kdebase: kdebase/konsole/konsolesu.desktop kdebase/konqueror/konquerorsu.desktop kdebase/kcontrol/kfontinst/viewpart/kfontview.desktop kdepim /home/david/tblds/trinity-kdepim/korn/KOrn.desktop kdegraphics /home/david/tblds/trinity-kdegraphics/src/kdegraphics/kruler Screenshots of the System and Internet kmenu entries are here: http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/dt/trinity/ss/trinity-kmenu-SystemSU.jpg http://www.3111skyline.com/dl/dt/trinity/ss/trinity-kmenu-InternetEmail.jpg A new custom 'Category' of 'X-KDE-System-su' was created in applications.menu to accommodate the SuperUser submenu. Go ahead an apply the patches to a work copy and see what you think. It all works as it is supposed to. The xfw, xfi, etc.. apps still need to be moved out of 'Utilities' to a submenu. I'm thinking Utilities/X-Utilities unless somebody has a better idea. Getting rid of the "More Applications" submenus really makes Trinity start to look like a (getting)-finished product. Ilya, look over what I did and make sure it is all OK. I did it using http://standards.freedesktop.org/menu-spec/menu-spec-1.0.html as a reference, so it should be close. The only thing there wasn't a clear reference for was adding the: <Directory>kde-system-su.directory</Directory> entries in applications.menu. Looking at all the other entries, that looks like what was needed. Let me know. Thanks. Enjoy :) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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kdebase FTBFS with cmake
by Darrell Anderson 09 Mar '11

09 Mar '11

Link to build log file: http://humanreadable.nfshost.com/files/kdebase-3.5.13-i486-svn_1224113-buil… Darrell

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ALSA support are requested, but not found on your system
by Darrell Anderson 08 Mar '11

08 Mar '11

Trying to build arts with cmake. I received the following message: "ALSA support are requested, but not found on your system" Looking at the CMakeLists.txt file, I see the script is checking for "alsa/asoundlib.h." ALSA is indeed installed and working well here. On Slackware 12.2 that file exists at: /usr/include/alsa/asoundlib.h /usr/include/sys/asoundlib.h How do I fix? BTW, you might want to change the error message from: ALSA support are requested, but not found on your system To: ALSA support requested, but not found on your system The latter is more grammatically correct in English. :) Darrell

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Trinity Developer Quick Reference page started on the wiki
by David C. Rankin 08 Mar '11

08 Mar '11

Guys, After researching the freedesktop Menu Specification and Desktop Entry Specification, I though it would be nice to have a page to make these links available for others to use rather than just putting them in my bookmarks. That way somebody else doesn't have to spend the 10-20 minutes searching the next time a menu or desktop entry questions comes up. If you are doing research for a particular issue and come up with a link that provides a proper specification or howto that can help other Trinity devs out, please drop the link on the page. If you can help save somebody else 30 minutes of searching or googling to come up with an answer -- that's 30 minutes more that they can put to fixing bugs or cmake files. Think of this page as a "Bookmarks for Trinity Developers" page: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/wiki/bin/view/Specifications/Developmen… To drop a new link, just 'edit' the page, 'copy/paste' an existing heading to create a new one (change the names) and add your link. That simple. External link format in foswiki is just: [[http://path/to/whatever.html Then The Title You Want Displayed]] Takes ~ 20 secs to edit,add an entry, and save :) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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flooding the devel list is a bad idea - weekly meetings?
by Robert Xu 08 Mar '11

08 Mar '11

Hi all, Because the trinity-devel list is flooded so much with cmake problems and such, we're showing the lack of coordination within the project. Therefore, I am proposing a weekly meeting: * Takes place on irc.freenode.net, although I do not have a meetbot to wire up, so this may be a bad idea (i do not think tbottu can do meetbot) * Takes place on something like iEtherpad, where we can chat and create a checklist for the week. (trinity.ietherpad.com is taken, but we can come up with something) This way, the coordination is here, and there are weekly tasks. Most importantly, we'll be able to see who is working on what and such. (hehe! remember due dates? >:P) I would really like your suggestions. (if you are wondering about iEtherpad, go check it out!) -- later, Robert Xu

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