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TDE Mirrors
by Mike Bird 18 Apr '19

18 Apr '19

So 14.0.6 was released a few weeks ago and I didn't notice. That's odd. Particularly odd, in fact, as I run the primary TDE mirror. Normally TDE releases are coordinated with the primary TDE mirror in order so ensure a smooth deployment. The last post to trinity-announce was in August 2018. If there was an announcement of 14.0.6 on -user or -devel I missed it. The web site https://www.trinitydesktop.org/releases.php doesn't list 14.0.6 as a release although there is a mention of 14.0.6 on the home page. Looking back at the various list archives for March and April I only see a discussion of an Ubuntu LiveCD being updated to 14.0.6 but I had ignored that because we don't run Ubuntu. However the redirector http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/ seems to have been hijacked to bypass the mirrors in favor of whichever mystery repository has 14.0.6. This of course doesn't help people who have selected a specific mirror for improved performance and consistency. A bunch of people are paying for and maintaining mirrors that don't have 14.0.6. When were you going to tell us that we are wasting our time and money? --Mike

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[trinity-devel] trinity-tdelibs-14.0.6-1.mga6.i586 could not be installed
by Felix Miata 04 Apr '19

04 Apr '19

due to unsatisfied /etc/ssl/certs/ca-bundle.crt /etc/ssl/certs/ca-bundle.crt exists from package rootcerts-20190306.00-1.mga6. Rerunning urpmi --auto-select succeeded to upgrade trinity-tdelibs. What to do? Ignore? -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/

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tdelibs: Scanning dependencies of target check fails at dcop
by deloptes 02 Apr '19

02 Apr '19

Hi, I have below issue after updating to latest git and I was wondering how I can fix it. On the machine I build, I do not have GUI and dcop. In fact it is a chrooted environment. For now I disable the debian check target in the debian/rules file. Thank you in advance Scanning dependencies of target check make[4]: Leaving directory '/mnt/DEVELOPMENT/TDE/repo-master/tde/2_build/tdelibs/obj-x86_64-linux-gnu' /usr/bin/make -f dcop/tests/CMakeFiles/check.dir/build.make dcop/tests/CMakeFiles/check.dir/build make[4]: Entering directory '/mnt/DEVELOPMENT/TDE/repo-master/tde/2_build/tdelibs/obj-x86_64-linux-gnu' [100%] Running tests... /usr/bin/ctest Test project /mnt/DEVELOPMENT/TDE/repo-master/tde/2_build/tdelibs/obj-x86_64-linux-gnu Start 1: dcop/dcop-tests 1/40 Test #1: dcop/dcop-tests ...................................***Failed 1.05 sec Start 2: tdecore/tdeconfig_compiler/test1-cpp

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[trinity-devel] need xrandr script to run as TDE 14.0.5 session starts in in Mageia
by Felix Miata 18 Mar '19

18 Mar '19

How can I get /etc/X11/wmsession.d/45TDE in Mageia 7b2 (urpmi upgraded from Mageia 6) to run my xrandr script as it starts? other distros call it from various places, but I can't find a place that works in Mageia 7. :~( TDM isn't working either, so I'm starting TDE with startx /opt/trinity/bin/starttde instead. Do I need something in /etc/alternatives to get TDM to work? If so, what? If not, then what? I'm only trying to follow up on a bug: https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10457 -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/

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tdemultimedia FTBFS
by deloptes 08 Mar '19

08 Mar '19

Hi, sorry to bother you again, but I do not know why I get this. I mean I understand why as shown below, but I do not understand where it is coming. This goes beyond my level of knowledge of cmake. Is it required to log a bug and how exactly - the trivial way would be in Gitea under tdemultimedia. Is this correct? dh_install: Cannot find (any matches for) "debian/tmp/opt/trinity/lib/libarts_mpeglib.so" (tried in "." and "debian/tmp") dh_install: tdemultimedia-trinity-dev missing files: debian/tmp/opt/trinity/lib/libarts_mpeglib.so dh_install: missing files, aborting /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/debhelper.mk:233: recipe for target 'binary-install/tdemultimedia-trinity-dev' failed make: *** [binary-install/tdemultimedia-trinity-dev] Error 2 repo-master/tde/2_build/tdemultimedia/debian/tmp/opt/trinity/lib$ ls -al libarts_mpeglib* libarts_mpeglib-0.3.0.so -> libarts_mpeglib-0.3.0.so.0 libarts_mpeglib-0.3.0.so.0 -> libarts_mpeglib-0.3.0.so.0.0.3 libarts_mpeglib-0.3.0.so.0.0.3 libarts_mpeglib.la libarts_mpeglib.so.0 -> libarts_mpeglib-0.3.0.so.0.0 Seems libarts_mpeglib-0.3.0.so.0.0 is missing thanks in advance

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Mail to François Andriot
by Slávek Banko 04 Mar '19

04 Mar '19

Hi, please have someone here any contact information on François which are functional? During preparation of R14.0.6 we need feedback if everything is OK on RPM distributions. But the contact information that I have is not working. Cheers -- Slávek

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Preparation for work on translations
by Slávek Banko 01 Mar '19

01 Mar '19

Hi all, those of you who have been here for a long time might recall that when I joined the community I assumed that my tasks would be only two: backport patches to the stable TDE series and work on translation. Over time, it turned out that my tasks on the project would be bigger. However, work on translations is still a postponed task. Recently, I have devoted some time to the tasks that are essential to move us forward with the work on translations. Therefore, I would like to inform you about the results and related plans. I apologize for long email. 1. Unnecessary updates of POT files during package build I observed that during the DEB packages build, an attempt was made to update POT files. However, this step makes no sense. Bundling usually takes place in dedicated pure chroot. Therefore, the result of updating POT files would be discarded anyway. So this is unnecessary work. At the same time, the extractrc tool is used during the POT files update. But this tool is part of the tdesdk-scripts-trinity package. Therefore, when building other packages, it is usually not present. So updating POT files during building could not work well. That's why I already removed these unnecessary updates of POT files while building DEB packages. 2. Do we still need to use the old modified version of xgettext? I found out what the current status is and whether there are still reasons to use the old modified version of xgettext (kde-xgettext). Patches for the old version solve two things: a) adding a way to enter plural forms of strings b) adding a way to enter translation context The current versions of gexttext already have both of these options, but they seem to be implemented in a different way. Before we can start using standard xgettext in TDE, we will need to add support for a new way of plural forms of strings and translation contexts. So far, we need to continue using an old modified version of kde-xgettext. 3. Can modern gettext replace the extractrc tool? Modern versions of gettext can handle XML files. We use XML files for 'kcfg', 'rc' and 'ui'. Using ITS support in gettext, there is a way to define which texts are to be extracted for translations. I tested this option, but I encountered some problems: a) Tags are written in strings as html entities: < / > / &. After extraction using xgettext, are left in this form. But the extractrc tool convert them to the appropriate characters '<', '>', '&'. I did not find a way to do this with xgettext and ITS. b) XPath is used to determine which strings are to be extracted from XML files. Files 'kcfg' use their own XML namespace and I did not find a way how to enter XPath to work properly with ITS in xgettext. That's why I decided it was better to continue using the extractrc tool. 4. How do we create and update POT files? In order to provide strings for translation, we first need to create and update POT files. The best place for these files is right in the source code – in GIT. Therefore, these files need to be maintained independently of the building binaries. Therefore, it is obvious that for this task it is not a good time during the build binary packages, nor the usual use of Automake or CMake. Although the usual use of CMake with CMakeLists.txt for updating POT files is not a good choice, using CMake as such seems to be a good idea. CMake allows using the -P option to process a different file than the usual CMakeLists.txt. In this case, it does not create build folder, it does not create a cache - exactly as it suits us for our purpose. I decided to use the name CMakeL10n.txt. I have prepared the CMake module TDEL10n.cmake. This module provides functions for simplifing directories handling – function tde_add_l10n_subdirectory as the equivalent for add_subdirectory and function tde_auto_add_l10n_subdirectories as an equivalent for tde_auto_add_subdirectories. And above all, the tde_create_l10n_template macro that provides POT files generation. This macro provides some benefits that seemed useful: a) If resource files are processed – for example, *.ui, the work file "rc.cpp" is commonly used to save extracted strings for translation. This file is then processed by kde-xgettext. Links to the original location of strings in the resulting POT file then refer to this "rc.cpp", which is not very useful. The tde_create_l10n_template macro performs additional processing by replacing references to "rc.cpp" with references to the original resource files. Therefore, the POT file does not refer to a non-existent "rc.cpp" file, but to real locations in resource files. b) When a new POT file is generated, a comparison is made with the original POT file. If only the date of POT file generation is changed, the original POT file will be left unchanged. This prevents unnecessary POT file updates. This will allow to run a regular update of POT files without causing unnecessary commits. 5. What's next? For revisions and comments, I created a pull request containing a CMake module TDEL10n.cmake: https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tde-common-cmake/pulls/2 ...and pull requests with a demonstration of use CMakeL10n in two modules: https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/abakus/pulls/1 https://mirror.git.trinitydesktop.org/gitea/TDE/tdebase/pulls/19 After testing, we will need to add CMakeL10n.txt to generate POT files in all other modules. Once we have automated updating of POT files, translation work can begin! 6. How can users work on translations? I will leave the answer to this question for later. Whoever was more attentive could have noticed in several earlier commits that "something is being prepared" :) Cheers -- Slávek

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TDM grey-screen-of-death. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
by Russell Brown 21 Feb '19

21 Feb '19

Hi Devs, Before I file a bug on this I'd like to try to narrow it down a bit so I'm looking for some pointers on how TDM works and where I might start looking. Since upgrading to Debian Stretch and TDE: R14.0.6, we're seeing an issue where TDM won't start a new session for a display and has zombie child process(es). This is with networked X-Terminals using XDMCP. It's happening roughly every week or so (no fixed time of day) on a system with around 30 users/terminals logging in and out. It might happen after a user logs out or after the remote terminal is reset or, according users rumour, after a kdesktoplock has been unlocked; I'm failing to get real concrete info on that aspect (I'm sure you know what users are like!). Anyway, the terminal gets fired up/restarts X11 after a logout but doesn't then get a response to its XDMCP requests and just sits there showing a default X11 background (hence the grey-screen-of-death moniker). When TDM is in this state, doing "ps waux | grep tdm" shows: root 18481 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? Z Feb19 0:00 [tdm] <defunct> root 20178 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? Z Feb19 0:00 [tdm] <defunct> root 25478 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? Z Feb19 0:00 [edm] <defunct> These processes in pstree look like: |-tdm(12251)-+-tdm(1004)---tdm_greet(1005)-+-krootimage(1009) | | |-twin(1013) | | `-{tdm_greet}(1020) | |-tdm(1389)---tdm_greet(1390)-+-krootimage(1392) | | `-{tdm_greet}(2309) <snip> | |-tdm(4546)---tdm_greet(4547)-+-krootimage(4549) | | |-twin(4552) | | `-{tdm_greet}(4556) | |-tdm(4738)---starttde(21417)-+-ssh-agent(21539) | | `-tdeinit_phase1(21613)---kwrapper(21614) | |-tdm(18481) | |-tdm(20178) | |-tdm(20178) | |-tdm(25478) <snip> |-tdmtsak(15721) Doing an strace on the main TDM process, shows it doing a select on a bunch of fds but nothing else. If I restart tdm (/etc/init.d/tdm restart), it will start working again and, mostly, preserve the live users sessions... but sometimes not and everyone gets booted out :-( Once restarted like this, some tdms have a parent of systemd and some are children of the new? main tdm process: systemd(1)-+-ModemManager(1591)-+-{gdbus}(1599) | `-{gmain}(1595) <snip> |-tdm(16655)---starttde(6171)-+-ssh-agent(6293) | `-tdeinit_phase1(6369)---kwrapper(6370) |-tdm(29430)---starttde(26723)-+-ssh-agent(26845) | `-tdeinit_phase1(26933)---kwrapper(26934) |-tdm(32506)---starttde(21854)-+-ssh-agent(21976) | `-tdeinit_phase1(22057)---kwrapper(22058) |-tdm(32680)-+-tdm(424)---tdm_greet(429)-+-krootimage(1068) | | |-twin(1071) | | `-{tdm_greet}(1075) | |-tdm(426)---starttde(7968)-+-ssh-agent(8092) | | `-tdeinit_phase1(8229)---kwrapper(8231) | |-tdm(428)---tdm_greet(431)-+-krootimage(1150) | | |-twin(1155) So... can anyone suggest where I should be looking to try an narrow down the cause of this? How does TDM know when a session ends and what stops it providing a new one? Should it have zombies hanging around? Should it reap it's zombie children? I see there's a ReapChildren function in dm.c which seems like it should get called when it gets a SIGCHLD. How could that not be working? Thanks in advance. -- Regards, Russell -------------------------------------------------------------------- | Russell Brown | MAIL: russell(a)lls.com PHONE: 01780 471800 | | Lady Lodge Systems | WWW Work: http://www.lls.com | | Peterborough, England | WWW Play: http://www.ruffle.me.uk | --------------------------------------------------------------------

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[trinity-devel] a Stop Job is running for User Manager for UID 0 (...../1min 59s)
by Felix Miata 13 Feb '19

13 Feb '19

Is there a way to make reboots following updates not take over 2 minutes just to begin? I see this somewhat often, but haven't been tracking with which versions. The one just done is 14.0.6~pre38 on Buster. What exactly is a "User Manager"? -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/

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Bug 2998
by Russell Brown 11 Feb '19

11 Feb '19

Hi, I don't know how closely the devs watch the Bug list but I believe I've fixed Bug 2998. As this bug results in kdesktop/kdesktop_lock eating CPU and going unresponsive; might I humbly request that the fix is incorporated in the next possible/dev version. As the code I posted on bugzilla used a crude fixed buffer, here's a cleaned up version that uses malloc. *** /tmp/tdebase-trinity-14.0.6~pre38/kdesktop/lock/main.cc Thu Feb 7 15:48:21 2019 --- /usr/tmp/tdebase-trinity-14.0.6~pre38/kdesktop/lock/main.cc Sun May 20 19:41:55 2018 *************** *** 325,336 **** #endif } ! char *locknameroot="kdesktop_lock_lockfile."; ! char *lockfilename = (char*)malloc(strlen(locknameroot) + strlen(getenv("DISPLAY")) + 1); ! strcpy(lockfilename,locknameroot); ! strcat(lockfilename,getenv("DISPLAY")); ! ! TDELockFile lock(locateLocal("tmp", lockfilename)); lock.setStaleTime(0); TDELockFile::LockResult lockRet = lock.lock(); if (lockRet != TDELockFile::LockOK) { --- 325,331 ---- #endif } ! TDELockFile lock(locateLocal("tmp", "kdesktop_lock_lockfile")); lock.setStaleTime(0); TDELockFile::LockResult lockRet = lock.lock(); if (lockRet != TDELockFile::LockOK) { -- Regards, Russell -------------------------------------------------------------------- | Russell Brown | MAIL: russell(a)lls.com PHONE: 01780 471800 | | Lady Lodge Systems | WWW Work: http://www.lls.com | | Peterborough, England | WWW Play: http://www.ruffle.me.uk | --------------------------------------------------------------------

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