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Re: [trinity-devel] how to prevent a hugs/freebsd fiasco in trinity
by Alexis PM 11 Mar '18

11 Mar '18

Hello "Physical contact and simulated physical contact (e.g., textual descriptions like "*hug*" or "*backrub*") without consent". Agree with you that the FreeBSD's New Code of Conduct overreaches out of place. Desagree with you that this "clarifies" that horizontal organizations are bad and that software projects work better with a vertical structures with a benevolent dictator. But where FreeBSD fails, similar organizated projects as Debian or Gentoo work fine. There are long-standing free software projects with vertical organizations but also ones with horizontal organizations. What is failing in Trinity is the number of developers and collaborators, and this will not be changed by a organization modification, additionally I think that a vertical organization with censoring dictators tends to discourage potential collaborators. The praiseworthy Slávek/Timothy/others' dedication can be recognized without creating censoring or hierarchical figures. Likewise, the continuity after the disappearance of some person (exchange of passwords,...) can be guaranteed without the need to create vertical organizations. If a horizontal organization guaranteed the future of the Trinity project, it would be the first person to sign it even if it touches me the lowest post in the hierarchy, but that is not the case. Affectionate hugs to everyone! :) ________________________________ De: "wofgdkncxojef(a)gmail.com" <wofgdkncxojef(a)gmail.com> Para: trinity-devel(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Enviado: Sábado 10 de marzo de 2018 23:35 Asunto: [trinity-devel] how to prevent a hugs/freebsd fiasco in trinity Hi every one. I'm sure you all know about the storm about the new code of conduct in freebsd. (you need to ask consent in advance before sending virtual hugs.... etc) This is happening, because their governing structure is a committee. They are making an experiment in politics, with rules and votes and consensus etc.... You can easily avoid this, by just having an enlighten dictator. A bit like Torvalds with linux. In the Linux project, there is no committee and votes and politics. Linus has the final word. An open source project is not like in real life, if you think the benevolent dictator is a dick, you just tell him and fork. So, trinity should remain a dictatorship. Even if the project got big. I'm assuming the dictator is petersons. And when he leaves, he must appoint a successor. If that ever turned to shit, people would have to decide to fork then. (Roman emperor Caligula once, ordered his men to collect seashells) A common mistake with projects/businesses, is that the founders don't think through about what happens after they are gone. hugs :P --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-devel-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-devel-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting

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compiz-trinity should be dropped
by wofgdkncxojef＠gmail.com 05 Mar '18

05 Mar '18

compiz-trinity should be dropped. Compiz was resurrected some years ago. It got some additional development. It's in the normal repos of ubuntu and i think debian. As far as i can see, it works fine with trinity. (except for --replace, that trinity doesn't respect very well) It doesn't has a reason anymore, to be in the repos of trinity. It's also confusing to users....

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kmix, pulseaudio and bluetooth
by deloptes 28 Feb '18

28 Feb '18

Hi all, I have been playing recently with mobile phone and pulseaudio. The goal is to be able to use HSP or A2DP with the computer. I choose for simplicity A2DP first. With my older phone it works pretty straight forward Connect the phone, set A2DP profile in pavucontrol. I had to tell pulseaudio source and sink the first time, but it then "remembered" the setup and now each time I connect it does this. So at the end it is possible to play music from the phone on the PC. My only problem is that when connect or disconnect kmix is going crazy and abuses one of the CPUs. Which would be the way to debug, track or fix this? Thimoty wanted to to get bluetooth support in TDE long time ago. I looked at the older kbluetooth code last year, but it looks like >50% rewrite is needed. I have the feeling that volume control also goes slowly in this category. Has someone dealt with this, or had some investigation and most important, how can I make kmix recover if something changes on PA end regards

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upgrading Buster with TDE on top
by deloptes 25 Feb '18

25 Feb '18

Hi, I just tried to upgrade buster, but it kept back many packages. I did reinstall binutils and it caused removing all trinity. On top of it, it looks like dpkg got installed and while scripts were looking for update-alternatives in /usr/sbin, it happened to have been moved to /usr/bin. Have you had such experience lately? What do you think of this? regards

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Looking for a hint
by deloptes 14 Jan '18

14 Jan '18

Hi, I was wondering if someone knows where this font functionality is hidden - I guess it would be qt so tqt3, but you would save me some time. I was willing to investigate on this bug https://bugs.trinitydesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2828 I am just wondering why the font symbols are of such size 0x1234 while there are other that we are missing in TDE with 0x12345 etc thanks in advance regards

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Devuan ASCII & TDE ... call for devs :-)
by Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 01 Jan '18

01 Jan '18

Hi all - especially Slavec and Tim :-) I don't know if somebody is on the devuan mailinglist, so I'll place this link here: https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20171214.132959.b8c0d989.en.html Could TDE provide official packages or a an official repository for devuan ascii, as KatolaZ ( KatolaZ <katolaz(a)freaknet.org> ) is asking for (see posting below)? As fas as I can tell, Slavecs repository has been stable for ages now, and it works perfectly with ascii. So ... take the chance? Nik Am Donnerstag, 14. Dezember 2017 schrieb KatolaZ: > On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 03:17:22PM +0100, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > > > During the sprint, you might also be asked to try/test/check theming > > > material, new packages, provisional installation material, and the > > > like. Thanks in advance for any help you will be able to provide. > > > > > > Come on: let's put ASCII out. > > > > > > The Dev1Devs > > > > > > > @ KDE: KDE3 continued as TDE aka trinitydesktop.org https://trinitydesktop.org/ works perfect on jessie. It would be very nice, if it could be included as an alternative DE for all those who like KDE3 but dislike all newer KDE incarnations and the GTK3-stuff. > > > > Hi, > > I agree, but this just depends on the availability of the TDE team to > package it for Devuan. I don't think we have the workforce to do that, > atm. > > Hope this makes sense. > > KatolaZ > -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ...

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Re: [trinity-devel] Linker error tdelibs
by Vincent Reher 31 Dec '17

31 Dec '17

On Friday 29 December 2017, Kai Peter wrote: > On 2017-12-28 15:50, Slávek Banko wrote: > > Hi Kai, > > > > the same problem I have seen once reported - I suspect on Slackware. > > But I > > do not know how he solved it. > > > > The findAttr function is defined in htmlattrs.c, which is directly > > included into htmlhashes.cpp => so there is no reason to be findAttr > > considered as an external reference. > > > > The only thing that comes to my mind is that findAttr is defined as > > inline > > and the compiler does not perform the inlining of this function for > > some > > reason. > > > > Cheers > I did comment out the inline definitions and it did compile/link well. > Lets see if there are side effects later on. > > Thanks > Kai > Kai, I've been building TDE on Gentoo for some time. In comparing our respective compiler options used to build tdelibs, I notice that I had compiled with "-fvisibility=hidden -fvisibility-inlines-hidden". I think this *might* have something to do with your error. Since I had not actually added these options to CXXFLAGS, I believe that they are inserted by cmake when you pass it "-DWITH_GCC_VISIBILITY=ON". Vince

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Linker error tdelibs
by Kai Peter 29 Dec '17

29 Dec '17

Hi, I want to build trinity core and did follow the order at the website. As it was mentioned as optional I didn't build avahi-tqt and tqca. I have disabled cups too. Now I get a linker error with tdelibs: [ 90%] Linking CXX shared library libtdehtml.so cd /mnt/NAS/Projects/trinity/core/09-tdelibs/build/tdehtml && /usr/bin/cmake -E cmake_link_script CMakeFiles/tdehtml-shared.dir/link.txt --verbose=1 /usr/bin/c++ -fPIC -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPAT -DQT_NO_TRANSLATION -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -D_REENTRANT -include tqt.h -I/usr/local/tde/include -I/usr/local/tde/include/tqt -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPAT -DQT_NO_TRANSLATION -DQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -D_REENTRANT -include tqt.h -Woverloaded-virtual -Wl,--no-undefined -shared -Wl,-soname,libtdehtml.so.14 -o libtdehtml.so.14.0.0 CMakeFiles/tdehtml-shared.dir/tdehtmlview.cpp.o CMakeFiles/tdehtml-shared.dir/tdehtml_part.cpp.o CMakeFiles/tdehtml-shared.dir/tdehtml_run.cpp.o CMakeFiles/tdehtml-shared.dir/tdehtml_factory.cpp.o CMakeFiles/tdehtml-shared.dir/tdehtml_settings.cc.o CMakeFiles/tdehtml-shared.dir/tdehtml_events.cpp.o CMakeFiles/tdehtml-shared.dir/tdehtml_ext.cpp.o CMakeFiles/tdehtml-shared.dir/tdehtml_pagecache.cpp.o CMakeFiles/tdehtml-shared.dir/tdehtml_iface.cc.o CMakeFiles/tdehtml-shared.dir/tdehtml_printsettings.cpp.o CMakeFiles/tdehtml-shared.dir/tdehtmlimage.cpp.o CMakeFiles/tdehtml-shared.dir/kjserrordlg.cpp.o CMakeFiles/tdehtml-shared.dir/htmlpageinfo.cpp.o CMakeFiles/tdehtml-shared.dir/tdehtml_iface_skel.cpp.o -L/usr/local/tde/lib -Wl,-rpath,/usr/local/tde/lib:/mnt/NAS/Projects/trinity/core/09-tdelibs/build/tdeutils:/mnt/NAS/Projects/trinity/core/09-tdelibs/build/tdeprint:/mnt/NAS/Projects/trinity/core/09-tdelibs/build/kjs:/mnt/NAS/Projects/trinity/core/09-tdelibs/build/tdeparts:/mnt/NAS/Projects/trinity/core/09-tdelibs/build/tdeio:/mnt/NAS/Projects/trinity/core/09-tdelibs/build/tdeui:/mnt/NAS/Projects/trinity/core/09-tdelibs/build/tdesu:/mnt/NAS/Projects/trinity/core/09-tdelibs/build/tdewallet/client:/mnt/NAS/Projects/trinity/core/09-tdelibs/build/tdecore:/mnt/NAS/Projects/trinity/core/09-tdelibs/build/dcop:/mnt/NAS/Projects/trinity/core/09-tdelibs/build/tdefx: java/libkjava.a ecma/libkjs_html.a dom/libtdehtmldom.a css/libtdehtmlcss.a html/libtdehtmlhtml.a xml/libtdehtmlxml.a rendering/libtdehtmlrender.a misc/libtdehtmlmisc.a ../tdeutils/libtdeutils.so.1.2.0 ../tdeprint/libtdeprint.so.14.0.0 ../kjs/libkjs.so.1.2.0 -ljpeg ../tdeparts/libtdeparts.so.2.1.0 ../tdeio/libtdeio.so.14.0.0 ../tdeui/libtdeui.so.14.0.0 -lfreetype -lfontconfig -lXext ../tdesu/libtdesu.so.14.0.0 ../tdewallet/client/libtdewalletclient.so.1.0.1 -lacl -lattr ../tdecore/libtdecore.so.14.0.0 ../dcop/libDCOP.so.14.0.0 ../tdefx/libtdefx.so.14.0.0 -ltqt -lqt-mt -lXrender -lX11 -lc -lz -lXcomposite -lICE -lSM -lutil -lpcre misc/libtdehtmlmisc.a(htmlhashes.cpp.o): In function `tdehtml::getAttrID(char const*, int)': htmlhashes.cpp:(.text+0x27b): undefined reference to `findAttr(char const*, unsigned int)' collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status make[2]: *** [tdehtml/CMakeFiles/tdehtml-shared.dir/build.make:521: tdehtml/libtdehtml.so.14.0.0] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory '/mnt/NAS/Projects/trinity/core/09-tdelibs/build' make[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/Makefile2:9838: tdehtml/CMakeFiles/tdehtml-shared.dir/all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory '/mnt/NAS/Projects/trinity/core/09-tdelibs/build' make: *** [Makefile:130: all] Error 2 It seems that there is something missing - but what? What have to be linked? Do I have to install some additional package/lib? I couldn't locate `findAttr(char const*, unsigned int)' yet. Any help is appreciated. My OS is an up-to-date Gentoo. Thanks Kai -- Sent with eQmail-1.10

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Please put Devuan into Bugzilla's OS list
by Michael Siegel 27 Dec '17

27 Dec '17

Hello, could someone please add Devuan Jessie and Devuan ASCII to the OS list of Bugzilla's reporting interface at bugs.trinitydesktop.org? Thanks, msi

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Re: [trinity-devel] TDE on dense small screens
by Vincent Reher 12 Dec '17

12 Dec '17

On Sunday 10 December 2017, Jim wrote: > On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 19:21 (-0800), Vincent Reher wrote: > > > Hello TDE Developers, > > I am not a TDE developer, but if you are willing to hear from random > people on this olist... > > > I recently purchased a Dell XPS15 laptop for my daughter and before > > I turn it over to her, I am experimenting to see what must be done > > to make it usable under Linux/TDE for those with no better than > > normal eyesight. Per EDID, the laptop's native screen resolution is > > 3840 x 2160 and its physical screen dimensions are 346 x 194mm > > (~15.6" diagonal). My objective is to run the laptop at native > > resolution both inside and outside of X (no re-scaling). > I am using a macbook pro (2880x1800 on a 15" screen) and a 4K 27" > monitor, and I went through this a while back. > > Having said that, while I use various TDE programs, I don't use TDE's > window manager, so this advice may not work for you. > > <snip> > > > Of course, if HiDPI issues have already been addressed by others in > > the post R14.0.4 source code, that would be great. > > I solved a lot of problems by putting > > export GDK_SCALE=2 > > in my ~/.xprofile, which gets read by /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession, > /etc/tde/tdm/Xsession and /etc/kde/kdm/Xsession (at least on my > system) and helps a lot of GTK3 programs look reasonable. > > It shouldn't hurt (too much) to give this a try. I'd be interested in > knowing how it works out. > > It is too bad that so many software designers assume that screen > resolutions would be 90 - 100 DPI for all time. > > Cheers. > > Jim > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-devel-unsubscribe(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net > For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-devel-help(a)lists.pearsoncomputing.net > Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-devel.pearsoncomputing.net/ > Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting > > Hi Jim, I think the Firefox I am using was built to utilize GTK+-3.x. If that is correct, I did not see any issues with it despite the fact that the GDK_SCALE environment variable is not set. I am curious about one thing you mentioned: are actually using TDE (the desktop environment per se) with a window manager other than twin? If so, I would be interested to know how that worked out for you as I had noted that alternative window managers can be configured. That might solve at least the "microscopic window resizing arrows" part of the problem. Thanks, Vince -------------------------------------------------------

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