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Focus-Follows-Mouse lost mouse-wheel-scroll unless Gtk app is top-level in SUSE KDE3 - Seen in TDE?
by David C. Rankin 21 Jul '24

21 Jul '24

TDE devs, Here is an odd bit of behavior with a new KDE3 install on openSUSE Tumbleweed I'm trying to chase down and wonder if this has been seen on TDE yet. The basic problem is with focus-follows-mouse set and no longer being able to scroll Firefox or Thunderbird windows with the mouse-wheel UNLESS the window is click and made top-level. (kinda defeats the purpose of focus-follows-mouse...) There is no question that the window receives focus, everything else works, titlebar indicates focus, you can 'tab' between widgets in FF or TB, but the mouse scroll does not work. As a work-around you can set the environment variable GDK_CORE_DEVICE_EVENTS=1 when starting either and then the focus-follows-mouse works normally. I've opened a bug: Firefox Bug - no middle-mouse scroll on focused window not raised to top https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1907708 only to find this is not a new issue: Scrolling inactive windows in KDE/KWin with mouse wheel https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=239918 Mousewheel action over Firefox doesn't work if Firefox window is not active https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1359226 and to find this is likely related to the new KDE3 builds at openSUSE. I have a Leap-15.4 install where KDE3 hasn't been updated since Sept. 2023 (it was perfect -- why tempt something like this ....) So it may be related to library version changes in the past 6 months or kernel differences between 5.4 and 6.9 or it could be due to a cockup in the build system. Long story short I'm looking for more data points to help narrow down where/what is causing this. Since this may be a Linux 6.9 or recent library issue, I thought I would check if TDE has seen anything like this? Also, a possible related issue has to do with the Run Command dialog (Alt+F2) which I can summarize in a test case: Test Case: 1. Alt + F2 2. type kmenuedit (tmenuedit on TDE IIRC) 3. return (to run it) 4. close kmenuedit 5. Alt + F2 6. type kmenuedit again As you type the 'k' ('t' on TDE?) you will see the icon displayed change to the kmenuedit icon showing at least the search-as-you-type part has identified the prior kmenuedit command -- but -- the list-box does not open. You have to manually click the list-box to see the previous kmenuedit command. I don't know if this is related, but I thought I would add that scenario as well. If you can't currently reproduce any of this -- good! But keep this in mind if it should crop up in the future. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

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[François] openSUSE Leap 15.6 released Wednesday 12 June
by Felix Miata 13 Jun '24

13 Jun '24

15.6 is absent from http://tde-mirror.yosemite.net/trinity/rpm/ and http://archive.trinitydesktop.net/trinity/rpm/ -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata

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TDevelop build error
by J Leslie Turriff 03 Jun '24

03 Jun '24

I thought I would get started with TDE programming, so I'm following the steps in the Wiki Development section, "Qt Designer and KDevelop 3.0 for Beginners". I followed the steps for creating the HelloWorld program substituting TDevelop for KDevelop, and all went well until the Project Build step, which failed, producing this output: | cd '/home/development/TDEupdAlt/debug' && WANT_AUTOCONF_2_5="1" WANT_AUTOMAKE_1_6="1" LC_MESSAGES="C" LC_CTYPE="C" gmake -k | gmake all-recursive | gmake[1]: Entering directory '/home/development/TDEupdAlt/debug' | Making all in doc | gmake[2]: Entering directory '/home/development/TDEupdAlt/debug/doc' | Making all in . | gmake[3]: Entering directory '/home/development/TDEupdAlt/debug/doc' | gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for 'all-am'. | gmake[3]: Leaving directory '/home/development/TDEupdAlt/debug/doc' | Making all in en | gmake[3]: Entering directory '/home/development/TDEupdAlt/debug/doc/en' | /opt/trinity/bin/meinproc --check --cache index.cache.bz2 /home/development/TDEupdAlt/doc/en/index.docbook | gmake[3]: Leaving directory '/home/development/TDEupdAlt/debug/doc/en' | gmake[2]: Leaving directory '/home/development/TDEupdAlt/debug/doc' | Making all in po | gmake[2]: Entering directory '/home/development/TDEupdAlt/debug/po' | gmake[2]: Nothing to be done for 'all'. | gmake[2]: Leaving directory '/home/development/TDEupdAlt/debug/po' | Making all in src | gmake[2]: Entering directory '/home/development/TDEupdAlt/debug/src' | g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I/home/development/TDEupdAlt/src -I.. -I/opt/trinity/include/tde -I/usr/include/tqt3 -I. -include tqt.h -DTQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -D_REENTRANT -Wno-long-long -Wundef -D_DEFAULT_SOURCE -Wcast-align -Wchar-subscripts -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -fno-builtin -g3 -fno-inline -O0 -g3 -Wformat-security -Wmissing-format-attribute -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -fno-common -I/usr/include/tqt -MT main.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/main.Tpo -c -o main.o /home/development/TDEupdAlt/src/main.cpp | mv -f .deps/main.Tpo .deps/main.Po | /usr/bin/tmoc /home/development/TDEupdAlt/src/tdeupdalt.h -o tdeupdalt.moc | g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I/home/development/TDEupdAlt/src -I.. -I/opt/trinity/include/tde -I/usr/include/tqt3 -I. -include tqt.h -DTQT_THREAD_SUPPORT -D_REENTRANT -Wno-long-long -Wundef -D_DEFAULT_SOURCE -Wcast-align -Wchar-subscripts -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -fno-builtin -g3 -fno-inline -O0 -g3 -Wformat-security -Wmissing-format-attribute -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -fno-common -I/usr/include/tqt -MT tdeupdalt.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/tdeupdalt.Tpo -c -o tdeupdalt.o /home/development/TDEupdAlt/src/tdeupdalt.cpp | mv -f .deps/tdeupdalt.Tpo .deps/tdeupdalt.Po | /bin/sh ../libtool --tag=CXX --mode=link g++ -Wno-long-long -Wundef -D_DEFAULT_SOURCE -Wcast-align -Wchar-subscripts -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -fno-builtin -g3 -fno-inline -O0 -g3 -Wformat-security -Wmissing-format-attribute -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -fno-common -I/usr/include/tqt -R /opt/trinity/lib64 -R /opt/trinity/lib64 -R /usr/lib64 -R /usr/lib64 -L/opt/trinity/lib64 -L/usr/lib64 -ltqt-mt -lz -lpng -lz -lm -lXext -lX11 -lSM -lICE -ltqt -lpthread -ltdecore -ltdeui -ltdeparts -o tdeupdalt main.o tdeupdalt.o -ltdeui | ../libtool: line 1300: func_opt_split: command not found | libtool: Version mismatch error. This is libtool 2.2.6b Debian-2.2.6b-2ubuntu1, but the | libtool: definition of this LT_INIT comes from libtool 2.4.6. | libtool: You should recreate aclocal.m4 with macros from libtool 2.2.6b Debian-2.2.6b-2ubuntu1 | libtool: and run autoconf again. | gmake[2]: Leaving directory '/home/development/TDEupdAlt/debug/src' | gmake[2]: *** [Makefile:629: tdeupdalt] Error 63 | gmake[2]: Target 'all' not remade because of errors. | gmake[2]: Entering directory '/home/development/TDEupdAlt/debug' | gmake[2]: Leaving directory '/home/development/TDEupdAlt/debug' | gmake[1]: Leaving directory '/home/development/TDEupdAlt/debug' | gmake[1]: *** [Makefile:582: all-recursive] Error 1 | gmake: *** [Makefile:500: all] Error 2 | *** Exited with status: 2 *** All went well until libtool was invoked, and I have to suppose that TDevelop is (or thinks it is) using embedded libraries? because 1) I'm running on openSUSE, not Debian ubuntu, and 2) my current installed libtool is |@17:51:37 root@pinto | wd=~ | ● rpm -q libtool | libtool-2.4.6-150000.3.6.2.x86_64 | rc=0 Am I going to have to download TDevelop and compile it on my system? Leslie -- Platform: Linux Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.5 - x86_64 Desktop Environment: Trinity Qt: 3.5.0 TDE: R14.1.2 tde-config: 1.0

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[openSUSE] Error - artsmessage: Sound server fatal error: cpu overload, aborting
by Felix Miata 31 May '24

31 May '24

Error - artsmessage: Sound server fatal error: cpu overload, aborting This message pops up on session login, and repeats if dismissed. How can I make it go away and stay away? Lots of noise in .xsession-errors too! :( # pinxi -ASaz --vs --zl --hostname pinxi 3.3.26-19 (2023-04-24) System: Host: gb250 Kernel: 6.2.12-1-default arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 13.0.1 parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz root=LABEL=<filter> rd.hostonly=0 noresume ipv6.disable=1 net.ifnames=0 mitigations=none preempt=full video=1440x900@60 Desktop: Trinity v: R14.0.13 tk: Qt v: 3.5.0 info: kicker wm: Twin v: 3.0 vt: 7 dm: 1: TDM 2: XDM Distro: openSUSE Tumbleweed 20230424 Audio: Device-1: Intel 200 Series PCH HD Audio vendor: Gigabyte driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel alternate: snd_soc_avs bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:a2f0 class-ID: 0403 API: ALSA v: k6.2.12-1-default status: kernel-api tools: alsactl,alsamixer,amixer Server-1: aRts v: 1.5.10 status: off with: artswrapper status: off tools: artsdsp Server-2: PipeWire v: 0.3.69 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse status: off 2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl # aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/test.wav # analog OK, but TDE artsmessage "cpu overload" Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/test.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo # rpm -qa | grep -E 'alsa|arts|gstr|jack|mix|pavu|puls|wire' | sort alsa-1.2.8-1.2.x86_64 alsa-ucm-conf-1.2.8-1.2.noarch alsa-utils-1.2.8-1.2.x86_64 gstreamer-1.22.2-1.1.x86_64 gstreamer-plugins-base-1.22.2-1.1.x86_64 kpipewire-imports-5.27.4-1.1.x86_64 kquickcharts-5.105.0-1.1.x86_64 libgstreamer-1_0-0-1.22.2-1.1.x86_64 libgstriff-1_0-0-1.22.2-1.1.x86_64 libjack0-1.9.21-1.5.x86_64 libKF5Parts5-5.105.0-1.1.x86_64 libpipewire-0_3-0-0.3.69-2.1.x86_64 libpulse-mainloop-glib0-16.1-3.1.x86_64 libpulse0-16.1-3.1.x86_64 libwireplumber-0_4-0-0.4.14-1.1.x86_64 pipewire-0.3.69-2.1.x86_64 pipewire-alsa-0.3.69-2.1.x86_64 pipewire-modules-0_3-0.3.69-2.1.x86_64 pipewire-pulseaudio-0.3.69-2.1.x86_64 pipewire-spa-plugins-0_2-0.3.69-2.1.x86_64 pipewire-spa-tools-0.3.69-2.1.x86_64 pipewire-tools-0.3.69-2.1.x86_64 pulseaudio-setup-16.1-3.1.x86_64 pulseaudio-utils-16.1-3.1.x86_64 trinity-arts-1.5.10-14.0.13_1.osstw.x86_64 trinity-kmix-14.0.13-1.osstw.x86_64 trinity-libarts-akode-14.0.13-1.osstw.x86_64 trinity-libarts-audiofile-14.0.13-1.osstw.x86_64 trinity-libarts-mpeglib-14.0.13-1.osstw.x86_64 trinity-libarts-xine-14.0.13-1.osstw.x86_64 wireplumber-0.4.14-1.1.x86_64 wireplumber-audio-0.4.14-1.1.noarch # systemctl --global --user status pipewire.{service,socket} * pipewire.service - PipeWire Multimedia Service Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/pipewire.service; disabled; preset: disabled) Active: active (running) since Tue 2023-04-25 14:41:25 EDT; 13min ago TriggeredBy: * pipewire.socket Main PID: 1225 (pipewire) Tasks: 2 (limit: 4915) CPU: 268ms CGroup: /user.slice/user-0.slice/user(a)0.service/session.slice/pipewire.service `-1225 /usr/bin/pipewire Apr 25 14:41:25 gb250 systemd[1058]: Started PipeWire Multimedia Service. * pipewire.socket - PipeWire Multimedia System Socket Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/pipewire.socket; enabled; preset: enabled) Active: active (running) since Tue 2023-04-25 14:41:21 EDT; 14min ago Triggers: * pipewire.service Listen: /run/user/0/pipewire-0 (Stream) CGroup: /user.slice/user-0.slice/user(a)0.service/app.slice/pipewire.socket Apr 25 14:41:21 gb250 systemd[1058]: Listening on PipeWire Multimedia System Socket. # systemctl --global --user status pipewire-pulse.{service,socket} * pipewire-pulse.service - PipeWire PulseAudio Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/pipewire-pulse.service; disabled; preset: disabled) Active: inactive (dead) TriggeredBy: * pipewire-pulse.socket * pipewire-pulse.socket - PipeWire PulseAudio Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/pipewire-pulse.socket; enabled; preset: enabled) Active: inactive (dead) Triggers: * pipewire-pulse.service Condition: start condition failed at Tue 2023-04-25 14:41:21 EDT; 14min ago `- ConditionUser=!root was not met Listen: /run/user/0/pulse/native (Stream) Apr 25 14:41:21 gb250 systemd[1058]: PipeWire PulseAudio was skipped because of an unmet condition check (ConditionUser=!root). # systemctl --global --user status wireplumber * wireplumber.service - Multimedia Service Session Manager Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/user/wireplumber.service; enabled; preset: enabled) Active: active (running) since Tue 2023-04-25 14:41:25 EDT; 14min ago Main PID: 1236 (wireplumber) Tasks: 5 (limit: 4915) CPU: 271ms CGroup: /user.slice/user-0.slice/user(a)0.service/session.slice/wireplumber.service `-1236 /usr/bin/wireplumber Apr 25 14:41:25 gb250 systemd[1058]: Started Multimedia Service Session Manager. Apr 25 14:41:26 gb250 wireplumber[1236]: GetManagedObjects() failed: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NameHasNoOwner # -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata

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org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver
by deloptes 30 May '24

30 May '24

Hi, last week or so someone raised the topic around org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver https://specifications.freedesktop.org/idle-inhibit-spec/latest/ch05.html I created one application (I will publish on my TGW projects page soon) implementing the interface and let it run over time while watching now and then videos on youtube or else where in Firefox. Today I fell asleep while watching - haha, getting older :) and when I checked the output, I saw following [1], which tells me that indeed video applications are using this interface. I also saw a lot of stuff around screen saver in various applications (for example tdepowersave (just grep screensaver or screen in applications). I saw there many things that I think, might be not really contemporary and hence not needed any more. I want to discuss here that path forward. AFAIR we were talking about doing something about automating dbus interface usage (similar to newer Qt4 and Qt5). I think it was around hwcontrol (tdelibs/tdecore/tdehw) In any case I think, we have to do something as more and more interfaces are defined and more and more services implement those interfaces. Can we have an update on the topic? BR [1] output of the application debug log [2024/05/27 17:34:01.787] ScreenSaverInterfaceImpl::Inhibit: Reason: video-playing [2024/05/27 17:34:03.550] ScreenSaverInterfaceImpl::UnInhibit: cookie(7), application(), reason(video-playing) [2024/05/27 17:34:09.569] ScreenSaverInterfaceImpl::Inhibit: Reason: video-playing [2024/05/27 17:34:12.422] ScreenSaverInterfaceImpl::UnInhibit: cookie(8), application(), reason(video-playing) [2024/05/27 17:34:17.902] ScreenSaverInterfaceImpl::Inhibit: Reason: video-playing [2024/05/27 18:05:19.272] ScreenSaverInterfaceImpl::UnInhibit: cookie(9), application(), reason(video-playing) [2024/05/27 18:23:30.728] ScreenSaverInterfaceImpl::Inhibit: Reason: video-playing [2024/05/27 18:23:32.185] ScreenSaverInterfaceImpl::UnInhibit: cookie(10), application(), reason(video-playing) [2024/05/27 18:23:32.890] ScreenSaverInterfaceImpl::Inhibit: Reason: video-playing [2024/05/27 18:23:33.134] ScreenSaverInterfaceImpl::UnInhibit: cookie(11), application(), reason(video-playing) [2024/05/27 18:45:47.290] ScreenSaverInterfaceImpl::Inhibit: Reason: video-playing [2024/05/27 18:45:47.579] ScreenSaverInterfaceImpl::UnInhibit: cookie(12), application(), reason(video-playing) [2024/05/27 18:46:40.388] ScreenSaverInterfaceImpl::Inhibit: Reason: video-playing [2024/05/27 18:51:57.562] ScreenSaverInterfaceImpl::UnInhibit: cookie(13), application(), reason(video-playing) [2024/05/27 18:56:07.655] ScreenSaverInterfaceImpl::Inhibit: Reason: video-playing [2024/05/27 18:58:43.041] ScreenSaverInterfaceImpl::UnInhibit: cookie(14), application(), reason(video-playing) [2024/05/27 19:01:40.704] ScreenSaverInterfaceImpl::Inhibit: Reason: video-playing [2024/05/27 19:01:41.081] ScreenSaverInterfaceImpl::UnInhibit: cookie(15), application(), reason(video-playing) -- FCD6 3719 0FFB F1BF 38EA 4727 5348 5F1F DCFE BCB0

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Requesting new feature
by Darrell Anderson 27 May '24

27 May '24

I'm feeling more frustrated than stupid, but I cannot figure out how to request a new feature (or report a bug). I have four proposed Kicker wallpapers to submit. I logged into gitea, in the top left selected the 'Pull Requests' link, in the left side selected TDE/tdebase. I see a green New Pull Request button. I select the button and am greeted with a message, "These branches are equal. There is no need to create a pull request." I have no idea or memory what to do next or if I am even on the right track.

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automake->cmake
by Darrell Anderson 26 May '24

26 May '24

Which packages are not yet converted from automake to cmake? Thanks.

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Gitea repository for Control Center?
by J Leslie Turriff 26 May '24

26 May '24

Hi, I have a bug to report concerning the Control Center, but I can't figure out which Gitea repository it should go in. Help? Leslie -- Platform: Linux Distribution: openSUSE Leap 15.4 (x86_64) Desktop Environment: Trinity Qt: 3.5.0 TDE: R14.1.1 tde-config: 1.0

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git clone tde
by Darrell Anderson 25 May '24

25 May '24

How much drive space is needed to store a full git clone of the TDE sources? Thanks.

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TDE and vintage computers
by Darrell Anderson 24 May '24

24 May '24

I would like to offer that with my efforts to build TDE on vintage systems, I built TDE R14.1.2 on Slackware 14.2 64-bit (gcc 5.5.0) and Slackware 14.1 32-bit (gcc 4.8.2). Both systems are EOL as of Dec. 2023. I did not build every package but core dependencies and packages built and run. I had to find some patches to back port. For example, some patches related to hotpluggable hwlib and ensuring '-std=c++11' is declared with tqt3. These days my brain is entrenched in old fart elderly territory and I have my days exhibiting grumpy old man traits. I have been out of the loop for many years with this kind of development and tend to lose patience easily. That said, that I have built the latest TDE on vintage systems is remarkable. Dare I say that the 14.1 builds are running on Pentium I/II single core systems with less than 512 MB of RAM and a 3.10.107 kernel? A tad slow? Yes, but everything functions and the slowness is mostly caused by PATA drives. I am impressed with the developers far more than a grumpy old man being able to build TDE on vintage systems. Good job devs. :)

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