19 Feb
2012
19 Feb
'12
10:30 a.m.
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 7:17 PM, /dev/ammo42 <mickeytintincolle(a)yahoo.fr>wrote;wrote:
On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 17:07:13 +0000
Tiago Marques <tiagomnm(a)gmail.com> wrote:
It seems useful to some people who multiboot but even those should be savvy
enough to know how to select on grub. One of the big problems is that
distros like ubuntu hide the bootloader menu, because otherwise that is a
mostly pointless feature. Why would you be forced to go all the way to the
display manager just to go back to windows? It doesn't make sense. People
in front of distros should have a better way for people to multiboot their
systems. I also don't imagine a normal Ubuntu system to have such a clutter
fee OS list on that popup.
I gave Linux "helpdesk" support to some people a few years back and their
problem wasn't that they couldn't find the grub menu but that said menu
didn't have the entry to boot to windows and had to be installed manually.
Best regards,
Tiago
IMHO these kind of options don't even make
sense. If the user needs to
change the kernel, it could do it with the grub editors that sometime
ships in distros or just use the keyboard error. This has been a
feature that has confused me since KDE 3.2
KDE4 has the same feature, including a
recently implemented GRUB2
backend
(http://ksmanis.wordpress.com/2012/01/29/grub2burg-integration-in-kde/)
so it seems to be useful to some people.
(btw the GRUB2 patch seems to apply cleanly (but still manually as
the KCM-related file changed place between KDE3 and KDE4) to Trinity
3.5.13, but I didn't test it as I don't have GRUB2; the patch is
available at
https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kde-workspace/repository/revisions/07…
)
Best regards,
Tiago
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 4:21 AM, Darrell Anderson
<humanreadable(a)yahoo.com>wrote;wrote:
> When starting X/TDE from a login manager, the Shutdown confirmation
> dialog displays a Restart button with a little arrow.
>
> Selecting and holding the button reveals the options to select how
> the system restarts. The button options are from the GRUB menu.lst.
>
> I don't know whether LILO options are supported.
>
> How is the default GRUB boot option supposed to get changed? That
> is, the user needs admin permissions to modify menu.lst.
>
> When the user does not have those permissions, should the Restart
> button then be a generic button with no options like the other
> buttons?
>
> Darrell
>
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