6 Mar
2016
6 Mar
'16
10:33 p.m.
On Sun, 06 Mar 2016 19:12:56 +0100
Thomas Maus <thomas.maus(a)gmx.de> wrote:
I'd say give it a couple more weeks, then call a vote (with "keep the existing
logo" as one of the choices, just in case it has overwhelming support) to thin
the ranks. Then approach Tim with the top ~3 if he hasn't weighed in yet
at that point--ultimately, he has veto rights.
On Saturday 05 March 2016, 14:39 wrote Michele
Calgaro:
You're welcome.
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Thomas, E.,
thanks for all your work so far. ...
I think we will have to narrow down on a few logo proposal and then choose
one from there.
I completely agree with the proposed procedure. Perhaps each should identify a
small number of agreeable logo design (3? 5?), so that perhaps some overlap of
preferences can be identified. I might add a few thoughts:
1. Is not the usage of the gear and konqui a significant risk of a trademark or
logo infringement?
At least in Europe the typical jurisdiction is, that similar logos are seen as
trademark infringements, when used in the same field.
I. e. using a triskele is relatively unproblematic concerning "triskele linux"
as TDE is a desktop, while the other is a linux distro -- using some
differentiation in colors and form should suffice.
But KDE and TDE play on exactly the same field. If the usage of the gears
and/or konqui is not explicitely granted by KDE to TDE, KDE could raise
complaints on a variety of grounds!
So my urgent request to those favoring the gear and konqui: State if you know,
that these issues are settled legally!?
I'm pretty sure Tim was approached once previously by the KDE people about
branding, which led to the initial "T" logo. If there's been a peep out of
them
since, he hasn't said anything. So I'd guess there's no problem with just
including
a gear in the logo (especially if it's distinct from any gear in a current KDE
trademark--different shape and number of teeth or whatever).
Konqui's more dangerous, since he's still actively in use by KDE in pretty
much the same form. There was some consideration given to changing the
mascot a while back, but it petered out when no one could scrape together
the time/energy to create any concept sketches.
(Also, I'm not sure how many judges can tell the difference between a Linux
distro and a Linux desktop environment. Maybe European judges are better
with tech, I don't know.)
3. Both the project name "trinity" as well
as all logos around 3-someness are
massively loaded with associations.
The discussion would be much easier to lead in German, because we have a
multitude of terms to differentiate -- which all would be translated to the
English "trinity"!
Besides the Christian trinitarian concept (for which we have two concise
German words -- one focussing 3-in-1, the other 1-in-3), we have more
universal words to describing similar concepts in cultures all around the
world (in various degrees of unity of the three constitutes): I could give you
tons of references from Laotsi and Taoism, Hinduism, Buddhism, arctic
shamanism, Nordic + Greek + Roman culture, philosophy, psychoanalysis,
physics, computational theory, ...
Don't worry--knowing the habits of English and its speakers, if the words
are useful, our language will "borrow" them sooner or later. ;P
E. Liddell