On Tuesday 08 March 2016 20:07:51 Thomas Maus wrote:
Tim has said
that what we need, in order to expand, is money and
developers. I personally do not see how we are to get more developers and
more money without more users.
Exactly my point.
Now: How do you think to attract more users?
I was attracting more users. Users who dislike all this "bling" that is so
fashionable now. Tim asked me to stop. I have stopped. You want TDE to
compete with all these other desktops. TDE appeals to those who do not want
this competition.
On Tuesday 08 March 2016, 11:41 wrote Lisi Reisz:
Why do we need a new logo?
I'm trying to lead a rational discussion here and I gave detailed arguments
along this whole discussion thread. Have the kindness to read, consider and
eventually falsify them -- the designs are secondary.
There is no need to be offensive. I asked why "we" need a new logo. We know
what you think and demand that the rest of us think.
Your credentials in Open Source are not relevant to your insistence that your
opinion has to be taken as incontrovertible fact.
Moreover you are ignoring the fact that Tim asked me not to proselytise.
You may feel that _you_ have already answered the questions I asked. I asked
them of "us". Plural, not dual. I know what you think. What about all
those who have so far said nothing? What about all those on the users list?
You ARE wanting change for change's sake. You want change because TDE is
not "modern" enough. That is change for change's sake.
The idea of having two completely different logos is IMHO a complete
non-starter and makes nonsense of having a logo.
You _will_ lose present users if you go along the track you want. This may,
of course, be part of your design. You are of course going to supply the
large amount of money needed to expand the hardware capacity of the project
to be able to cater for large numbers of new users.
The release candidates for PCLinuxOS interestingly had a garish, deliberately
Windows-like, logo. It was ditched by the time of the first release.
I actually think that your analysis of the "problems" is completely wrong, and
largely irrelevant. There are IMHO obstacles to expansion that interpose
long before you get to the point where it is too old fashioned or otherwise.
Destroying the essence of the project will not lead to huge numbers of users.
And if it were to do so, it would not make any difference if TDE was no more.
Lisi