16 Dec
2011
16 Dec
'11
10:42 p.m.
On 16 December 2011 17:10, Darrell Anderson <humanreadable(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
I don't have to do jack sh-t. ;) :) I enable JS only when I want to, which
is very seldom.
No.
Javascript is not a issue for bandwidth, it won't present an issue since it
is interpreted locally. The only functionality I am suggesting not exist is
a commenting system - which is non-essential.
JS might be client-side, but the scripts still must be downloaded to
I hate JavaScript, the bane of the internet. Bandwidth
hog and
security nightmare.
yes, but that is life.
you must
adapt to the world around you. Exactly! guys this isn't 1994 and people
expect to use
dynamic websites, Javascript isn't terrible and evil
when used in good proportion
You have lake front property in Nevada for sale too? :)
JS sucks. Cookies suck.
No. Wrong wrong wrong. Cookies are great when used to store information I
wanted stored, like preferences or to stay logged into a website, tracking
cookies are obviously bad however.
Javascript and
static web pages are compatible (using
DOM and/or
document.write is not mandatory).
You could also use static
html forms for a comment system, though frankly I'd
rather use javascript to achieve the same end.
Enable JS all you want but if functionality is not available without
enabling JS then screw people who are not on broadband. Many people today
are not on broadband because of cost or lack of availability. If the TDE
team wants to target people using older hardware as good candidates for
TDE, then consider the overall environment of these people.
function. People on older hardware do not have the CPU
or graphics muscle
in their machines to tolerate JS. I have older machines here that I use in
my testing. Those machines can't deal with all the Web 2.0 bullsh-t.
Scripts are just small text files, overhead is as minimal as the already
existing CSS files. (or do you have that disabled too?) Javascript is 15+
years old. Stop being absurd! Are you running machines that are pre-pentium
1? Of course we won't be rendering WebGL 3D frames, we'll be using very
simplistic javascript to achieve a minimal end. In fact most websites these
days depend on it.
That has always been a problem with computers. Devs
use bleeding edge
hardware and never test their apps or web sites with older hardware. Most
of them have high broadband connections and never test with anything else.
I concur with this sentiment, spending my whole life on sub par machines. I
do understand this, but I think our website will be fine
Speaking of which, web devs need to test their pages on smaller monitors.
Most web pages these days are designed on monitors bigger than most TVS and
when the web page is viewed on a smaller monitor the text is too small to
read by anybody with vision issues.
I concur with this as well. I think we need to work on our top display bar,
other than that the website works well. It renders well in a 640x640 window
All I'm saying here is don't be an ass wipe
with redesigning the web site.
:)
Contributions appreciated, as the old arch saying goes "patches are
welcome!" or "put up or shut up" applies as well.
Calvin Morrison