On Saturday 05 March 2016, 14:39 wrote Michele Calgaro:
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Thomas, E., thanks for all your work so far.
You're welcome.
... I think we will have to narrow down on a few logo proposal and then choose one from there.
I completely agree with the proposed procedure. Perhaps each should identify a small number of agreeable logo design (3? 5?), so that perhaps some overlap of preferences can be identified.
I might add a few thoughts:
1. Is not the usage of the gear and konqui a significant risk of a trademark or logo infringement? At least in Europe the typical jurisdiction is, that similar logos are seen as trademark infringements, when used in the same field.
I. e. using a triskele is relatively unproblematic concerning "triskele linux" as TDE is a desktop, while the other is a linux distro -- using some differentiation in colors and form should suffice.
But KDE and TDE play on exactly the same field. If the usage of the gears and/or konqui is not explicitely granted by KDE to TDE, KDE could raise complaints on a variety of grounds!
So my urgent request to those favoring the gear and konqui: State if you know, that these issues are settled legally!?
2. Both the trefoil and the triskele can be generated from gears. The trefoil by gears revolving on each other (hypotrochoid), as the attachment illustrates. The (arms of a) triskele either by a chain unrolling from a rotating gear (producing an involutive spiral) or a rack gear (happily T-shaped ;-) being driven outward by a rotating gear assembly (forming an Archimedean spiral). (It would take some time to illustrate the mechanisms, I trust in your imagination -- both spirals are quite similar and both are suitable for the triskele arms)
So gears are still at the heart of the construction, but hidden inside (as is normally is proper for gears around non-engineers anyhow ;-) So, the constructions are based on gears and transcend them, as TDE is based on KDE3.5 but transcends it.
3. Both the project name "trinity" as well as all logos around 3-someness are massively loaded with associations.
The discussion would be much easier to lead in German, because we have a multitude of terms to differentiate -- which all would be translated to the English "trinity"!
Besides the Christian trinitarian concept (for which we have two concise German words -- one focussing 3-in-1, the other 1-in-3), we have more universal words to describing similar concepts in cultures all around the world (in various degrees of unity of the three constitutes): I could give you tons of references from Laotsi and Taoism, Hinduism, Buddhism, arctic shamanism, Nordic + Greek + Roman culture, philosophy, psychoanalysis, physics, computational theory, ...
Surely enough for anybody, to find something objectionable -- or something appealing if so inclined ...
And that is the fundamental question: can we find unity in diversity, and bear diversity in unity?
ciao,
ThoMaus
